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Posted: Fri 12 Jul 2013, 22:41
by bark_bark_bark
Booted from ISO by Official Easy2Boot v1.03.

Works great. Not a lot was tested (but a very noticeable bug was the browse icon was not set correctly).

Posted: Fri 12 Jul 2013, 23:18
by Jasper
Hi pemasu et al,

Thank you pemasu - your ssl-certificate-fix-0.0.1.pet fixed my download problems with Qt-Web v 3.8.4 (which did not exist in v 3.7.3).

Qt-Web has been my most used browser for many months, but there may be three aspects for new users to take care with:

(1) If the download window is cleared using "Clean up" with any download(s) still in the original download location then total loss will occur.
(2) Before adding any personalised shortcuts it is suggested making a backup of the Qt-Web folder - because although it's a great feature - there may be a few strange and irrecoverable non-working results (at least for non-experts like me).
(3) I renamed my bookmarks to shorten them (or put them in a-long-bookmarks folder). Also, if a large number of bookmarks are imported the bookmark sidebar may look strange - until some items have been shortened and/or moved into new folders.

My regards

Posted: Sat 13 Jul 2013, 05:22
by vicmz
pemasu wrote:I checked this pet:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/pet_pa ... nglish.pet

It has included this file:
/etc/xdg/menus/puppy-multimedia.menu

That file does not have the new multimedia submenu entries. It will cause that openbox does not show for example: Asunder, Gnome-Mplayer, Mhwaveedit, Pdvdrsap.
I think fix and reupload is recommended.
Openbox with extras is now called OpenboxPlus. It has two panel options (Lxpanel/Tint2) a fix for the xdg menu and many other enhancements:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=86206

You might also want to check Openbox-P, a lightweight alternative with FBpanel:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=86290

Feedback, fixes, themes, and translations for these packages are highly appreciated.

Posted: Sat 13 Jul 2013, 10:27
by BarryK
see further down.

Posted: Sat 13 Jul 2013, 10:29
by simargl
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Posted: Sat 13 Jul 2013, 10:29
by BarryK
simargl wrote:Puppy never used alpha, beta and release candidate release scheme in the past,
but now everything has alpha suffix. I just asked: "Why?"

Your posts are off-topic. Please go to a more appropriate Forum thread.

Your comments are also b*t.

I have noticed from other posts of yours, you have a chip on the shoulder.

Enough said, I don't want to (again) get drawn into further responses.
I have made mental note to ignore future posts from you.

Posted: Sat 13 Jul 2013, 11:05
by simargl
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Posted: Sat 13 Jul 2013, 11:28
by ggg
@ simargl,

Some have ignored everything you have written to date and that may be (and in my case is) the height of politeness.

@ Flash,

Surely the time for drastic action is fast approaching.

Posted: Sat 13 Jul 2013, 12:52
by CatDude
Hi
simargl wrote:Puppy never used alpha, beta and release candidate release scheme in the past,
but now everything has alpha suffix. I just asked: "Why?"
Really, so what were these few examples :?:
  • 8Mar05

    Puppy multi-session live-CD version 1.0.0-alpha released. The file is puppy-firefox-1.0.0alpha-multisession.iso, size 52.5M. This is an experimental release. The final v1.0.0 release is expected to be concurrent with release of the v1.0.0 "normal" Puppy.
    9May05

    Puppy version 1.0.2RC has been uploaded. The "RC" means Release Candidate, and the official release will follow shortly. Version 1.0.2RC is for the Puppy-enthusiasts to test and report any problems.
    Dec 24, 2005 Puppy 1.0.7beta test iso available
    Oct 15, 2008 Icepup 301 alpha
CatDude
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Posted: Sat 13 Jul 2013, 13:13
by 01micko
wrong thread

Precise 5.6.4 alpha

Posted: Sat 13 Jul 2013, 16:14
by Billtoo
I realize that 5.6.4 is targeted at older computers but this computer felt
left out so I had to give it a try on here :)
Manual frugal install to a SDHC card.
Computer
Processor 4x AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 810 Processor
Memory 3374MB (219MB used)
Machine Type Physical machine
Operating System Precise Puppy - 5.6.4
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Sat 13 Jul 2013 11:59:52 AM EDT
Display
Resolution 1920x1080 pixels
OpenGL Renderer ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics
X11 Vendor The X.Org Foundation
Audio Devices
Audio Adapter HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB
Audio Adapter HDA-Intel - HDA ATI HDMI
Input Devices
CHICONY HP USB Multimedia Keyboard
CHICONY HP USB Multimedia Keyboard
Logitech USB Receiver
Logitech USB Receiver
Power Button
Power Button
HDA Digital PCBeep
HDA ATI SB Headphone
PC Speaker

OpenGL
Vendor Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
Renderer ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics
Version 3.3.11672 Compatibility Profile Context
Direct Rendering Yes
# glxgears
19510 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3901.834 FPS
19565 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3912.890 FPS
19568 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3913.436 FPS
#
The amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13.1-legacy-linux-x86.x86_64.run
compiled no problem.
I installed Seamonkey 2.17.1 in ppm.
I added xbmc-12.2_frodo_sfs4.sfs because xbmc-11.0 in ppm tends to
crash often, and openboxp-1.0.1.pet.

Precise 5.6.4 alpha is working great so far.

Posted: Sat 13 Jul 2013, 16:30
by anikin
Hi Barry et al,
A quick test run on Intel atom n270/945GSE eeepc.
Boots cleanly, runs smoothly and fast. No boot errors in logs, except these two insignificant warnings, in case they are of any interest to you:

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/usr/sbin/quicksetup: line 899: 12001 Terminated              yaf-splash -bg orange -fg black -placement center -close never -fontsize large -icon /usr/share/doc/puppylogo96.png -text "$WELCOMEMSG"
/usr/sbin/quicksetup: line 1587: 13019 Terminated              yaf-splash -bg orange -close never -fontsize large -text "$(gettext 'Processing, please wait...')"
Regarding the two included browsers. My humble thought is this. Puppy Linux should ship without a preinstalled browser. If posts on this forum are any indication, we will never have a browser that fits all. More importantly, Barry, we just can't afford to have your precious dev time wasted on browsers. They are not worth your breath, given the scope of work that's already on the plate.

Having followed your posts on the blog, I understand that this build is aimed at older hardware. I have a suggestion that will make Precise more consistent with its stated goal. Can you please, recompile the kernel as a pure, true uniprocessor kernel, no SMP? I do recall you had such a kernel in the past.

Thank you for all your hard work.

precise-5.6.4-blackscreen

Posted: Sat 13 Jul 2013, 16:32
by broomdodger
precise-5.6.4-blackscreen
+ thinkpad x30
+ sony vaio pcg-r505dl
+ wary-5500 works on both

Precise 5.6.4 alpha

Posted: Sat 13 Jul 2013, 17:37
by Billtoo
This EeePC is a 701SD and 5 years old so likely out of the target
group.
Manual frugal install to a flash drive.

video-info-glx 1.5.3 Sat 13 Jul 2013 on Precise Puppy 5.6.4 Linux 3.2.48 i686
2.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 04)
oem: Intel(r)915GM/910ML/915MS Graphics Chip Accelerated VGA BIOS
product: Intel(r)915GM/910ML/915MS Graphics Controller Hardware Version 0.0

X Server: Xorg Driver: intel
X.Org version: 1.11.3
dimensions: 800x480 pixels (211x126 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: VMware, Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on i915 (chipset: 915GM)
OpenGL version string: 2.0 Mesa 8.0.4

Intel(R) Celeron(R) M processor 900MHz
Core 0: @Intel(R) 1: @630 MHz

# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
106 frames in 5.1 seconds = 20.963 FPS
118 frames in 5.0 seconds = 23.530 FPS
110 frames in 5.0 seconds = 21.952 FPS
#
Working well so far.

EDIT: I updated ppm and added Vlc-2.0.5 from ppm,connected an external
monitor,usb keyboard and mouse combination.
Movies DVD's play great, even full screen.
This 701SD is working even better now.

Posted: Sun 14 Jul 2013, 02:42
by Ray MK
Precise Puppy version 5.6.4, released Jul 2013

# uname -a
Linux puppypc21770 3.2.48 #1 SMP Thu Jul 11 12:20:55 GMT-8 2013 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
# free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 1805144 569988 1235156 0 83752
-/+ buffers: 486236 1318908
Swap: 0 0 0
# top
Mem: 570720K used, 1234424K free, 0K shrd, 83752K buff, 411104K cached
CPU: 0% usr 0% sys 0% nic 98% idle 0% io 0% irq 0% sirq
Load average: 0.03 0.06 0.05 3/79 31000

Manual frugal to an ntfs partition on the E732 laptop and booting with grub4dos from an ext2 SDcard.
Both opera and seamonkey seem to run exceptionally well. As does QtWeb.
No issues so far - all looking very good, not far off the perfect puppy. Nice.
Better than nice - exceptional.
Now to try on the 10yr old Acer laptop.

Posted: Sun 14 Jul 2013, 09:24
by OscarTalks
Hello BarryK,

On your blog you were asking about Chromium. This one works in Precise 5.6.1 though you may wish to make your own alterations to the switches in the exec line at the end of the chrome-wrapper script in the main folder.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=86501

Posted: Sun 14 Jul 2013, 12:46
by pemasu
Pidgin bug:
There is something wrong with irc plugin.
pidgin --debug:
plugins: probing /usr/lib/purple-2/libirc.so
plugins: /usr/lib/purple-2/libirc.so is not loadable: undefined symbol: sasl_client_step

It disables testing of freenode and puppylinux channel.

#puppylinux channel is ok. There is all the time people asking help about how to get this and that working. I think that discussion of how bad things are in #puppylinux channel, tells more about those complaining people. The same complainers have created havoc in murga-forum sometimes. My explicit experience is that #puppylinux forum is the right forum to ask help in chat and there is nothing wrong with it.

I copied over irc plugin libirc.so from my wheezy 2.10.6 compile and got pidgin working. I did login to the #puppylinux with attached pidgin-autoinstall script. I fixed the script Barry K posted in his blog.

Remove the phony .gz

Posted: Sun 14 Jul 2013, 13:54
by backi
Hi !
I am using Precise 5.6.1 made a test with 5.6.4 Precise .
Works fine so far .Dont want to complain ....but why when testing glxgears
precise 5.6.1 give double framerate over 5.6.4 ( the Rarings Pups also half the framerate compared to Precise 5.6.1) ?

Is there something one could do about ? (is it really nessessary ? )

Posted: Sun 14 Jul 2013, 14:36
by session
Working OK on my 12 year old Celeron/Rage box...
Comparing some display information with Wary 5.5:

Precise 5.6.4

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-OpenGL-
Vendor			: VMware, Inc.
Renderer		: Gallium 0.4 on softpipe
Version			: 2.1 Mesa 8.0.4
Direct Rendering	: Yes

-Glxgears-
75 frames in 5.0 seconds = 14.974 FPS
73 frames in 5.0 seconds = 14.473 FPS
78 frames in 5.0 seconds = 15.554 FPS
Wary 5.5.1

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-OpenGL-
Vendor			: VA Linux Systems, Inc.
Renderer		: Mesa DRI Rage 128 20051027 AGP 1x x86/MMX/SSE2
Version			: 1.2 Mesa 6.5.2
Direct Rendering	: Yes

-Glxgears-
1336 frames in 5.0 seconds = 267.042 FPS
1335 frames in 5.0 seconds = 266.828 FPS
1333 frames in 5.0 seconds = 266.452 FPS

Posted: Sun 14 Jul 2013, 15:14
by pemasu
Here is the irc plugin for Barry`s pidgin testing purpose. It has been picked up from my Dpup Wheezy pidgin 2.10.6 compile so it is not the quite right one. It works though.

Jabber plugin from that compile does not work in Barry`s compile. There is ssl-gnutls version mismatch.