slacko-5.6 Final - plus testing next

[shinobar]

# smbclient -N -L localhost
Error connecting to 127.0.0.1 (Connection refused)
Connection to localhost failed (Error NT_STATUS_CONNECTION_REFUSED)

# smbclient -N -L shinobar
Domain=[WORKGROUP] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 3.0.14a-0vl0.5]
(snip)
Sharename Type Comment
--------- ---- -------
video Disk SHINOBAR video files
...

# mount.cifs //shinobar/video /mnt/data
Password:
mount error 5 = Input/output error
Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g.man mount.cifs)

Whereas Presice-550JP mounts the share with the same command.

[Jades]

BTW, hfs-tools (utils, or whatever it is) is not included but is available from PPM (slackware) and it does allow mounting rw of mac hfs and hfs+ filesystems. Tested on a late model macbook-air in ThinSlacko a while back. This enables the possibility of data recovery in macs, and I think already it helped out one forum member.

Came in handy for me too for recovering data of the drive from my Dad's 17" Macbook, which had fallen victim to him accidentally knocking over his pint (while moving it to prevent some one else knocking it over). Put the drive in a Zalman enclosure and his new Macbook could only see it from the boot menu (and the machine kernel paniced when we tried booting from it). In OSX itself we couldn't see it.

Out of curiosity, tried plugging it into the PC with Puppy running and looking at it in Gparted, which mentioned needing hfsutils. After downloading hfsutils and hfsprogs from PPM and figuring out how to mount the drive and bring up the directory viewer I was able to burn the files onto a couple of DVDs with Pburn.

[01micko]

@01micko: To test this, run

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smbclient -U username%password -L win8name

Does this generate the spnego error?

smbclient using hostname has never worked for me from puppy; maybe it's my network. It always looks for some obscure network in the US, IP of 199.101.28.130

Anyway, I added this to /etc/samba/smb.conf [global]

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	client use spnego = no

..now it works fine for me with win8.1 (authenticated). I never use loose shares so can't test. I hope that helps you shino.

EDIT: this works from different machines with 2 different 8.1 installs and also works with 7 for me.

[rcrsn51]

Just to be clear, which problem is this solving?

1. The failure of smbclient to identify shares.

2. The failure of the mount command to mount the shares.

[01micko]

@rcrsn51

In the Network rox app there is a failure to build the rox app for the win7/8 shares. This is because smbclient share list building fails. This would also be true of pnethood I believe (IIRC it uses smbclient to build the share list).

The rox app then uses nmblookup to get the IP of the share and mounts it with cifs.

[rcrsn51]

Thanks.

There was a previous report of success with Win8 shares. But it was not using authentication, so the user never saw your situation.

I suspect that shinobar has the opposite problem. Smbclient works for him, but the mount command is failing because of the new kernel.

[Edit] OTOH, in my tests, the problem with cifs.ko results in Error 22, not Error 5.

[Jades]

32 mb flash drive

Looking at your screen grabs, I think that's a typo for 32GB. I actually have a 32MB USB stick, even has a write protect switch on the end! Works with everything I have with a USB port.

[gcmartin]

@Shinobar and anyone doing a share access to a SAMBA/Windows server(s).
The old mount command seems to have been replaced n latest kernel systems. I had to change mount to mount.cifs. The new command, also needed the "sec=ntlm" option for increased success.. My command use now works on both early Windows and latest.

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mount.cifs  //192.168.1.3/shared-from  /mnt/on-here  -o sec=ntlm,username=userlogin-name,password=your-secret

Of course, on most networks, the 192.168.1.3 could be changed to the actual Hostname of the PC shared-from.

Here to help

[shinobar]

Example

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mount.cifs  //192.168.1.3/shared-from  /mnt/on-here  -o sec=ntlm,username=userlogin-name,password=your-secret

That's it

Modified /root/network/Network/scripts/part2 at line 27'

mount.cifs //$IP/"$Share" "$APPDIR"/mnt-point -o username=$Username,password=\$Password,file_mode=0775,dir_mode=0775,gid=$(awk -F: "/^users/ {print \$3}" /etc/group),noserverino,nounix,sec=ntlm$IOCHARSET &&

('nounix' option is to suppress error messages at writing files on the share.)
Got success Thanks!

[01micko]

Thanks GC and shinobar. I'll update the Network rox-app, but, does anyone know if it borks with older kernels? (say 3.2 or 3.4 series). If so, will need to test what kernel is running.

Cheers!

[01micko]

Sorry guys, there will be a bit of a delay with the next beta. My motherboard decided to give up (3yr warranty, 3 yr and 2 mo since purchase!), so I have had to purchase a new one and rebuild. Oh well, that's computing!

[shinobar]

Modified /root/network/Network/scripts/part2 at line 27'

mount.cifs //$IP/"$Share" "$APPDIR"/mnt-point -o username=$Username,password=\$Password,file_mode=0775,dir_mode=0775,gid=$(awk -F: "/^users/ {print \$3}" /etc/group),noserverino,nounix,sec=ntlm$IOCHARSET &&

The modified one also works with no problem on Precise-550JP, kernel 3.2.29.

[Jades]

Sorry guys, there will be a bit of a delay with the next beta. My motherboard decided to give up (3yr warranty, 3 yr and 2 mo since purchase!), so I have had to purchase a new one and rebuild. Oh well, that's computing!

You mean you haven't accumulated enough redundant components to build 3 complete PCs, if only you had some spare cases?!

[Jades]

Initial testing of 5.5.71 (the PAE version) on my Pentium D machine has been promising so far. Upgraded Slacko 5.5 save seemingly without any problems. Also successfully created new 512MB ext4 save on NTFS-formatted hard drive, worked fine on first boot.

Still too early to say for sure what the wireless perfomance with my troublesome Netgear WN111v2 USB dongle is like but it seems to work fine on Upup Raring 3.9.9.1 - on that when the connection does drop Pwireless manages to re-establish it straight away.

HomeBank, which I have started using recently, is up to v4.5 - the website is http://homebank.free.fr/

I know you've expressed reluctance to include the newest version of Gnumeric but Upup Raring (IIRC) has version 1.12.1 and the ISO didn't seem much bigger. Latest version is 1.12.4 which has just come out.

Pidgin 2.10.7 on PPM doesn't check for dependancies but 2.10.6 does. After updating the package lists the one on pet_packages-slacko14 shows up and that installs and runs fine.

[01micko]

Modified /root/network/Network/scripts/part2 at line 27'

mount.cifs //$IP/"$Share" "$APPDIR"/mnt-point -o username=$Username,password=\$Password,file_mode=0775,dir_mode=0775,gid=$(awk -F: "/^users/ {print \$3}" /etc/group),noserverino,nounix,sec=ntlm$IOCHARSET &&

The modified one also works with no problem on Precise-550JP, kernel 3.2.29.

Good to know, thanks!

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You mean you haven't accumulated enough redundant components to build 3 complete PCs, if only you had some spare cases?!

Ha! Sure.. but it's my most powerful.. anyway, new mobo is up and running .. and I can't believe how cool it runs for AMD, (same cpu as old mobo). While I was at it I upgraded the RAM from 2 to 4 GB. Still have plenty to do, unfortunately including a win7 install, needed for my homework.

Initial testing of 5.5.71 (the PAE version) on my Pentium D machine has been promising so far. Upgraded Slacko 5.5 save seemingly without any problems. Also successfully created new 512MB ext4 save on NTFS-formatted hard drive, worked fine on first boot.

Still too early to say for sure what the wireless perfomance with my troublesome Netgear WN111v2 USB dongle is like but it seems to work fine on Upup Raring 3.9.9.1 - on that when the connection does drop Pwireless manages to re-establish it straight away.

HomeBank, which I have started using recently, is up to v4.5 - the website is http://homebank.free.fr/

I know you've expressed reluctance to include the newest version of Gnumeric but Upup Raring (IIRC) has version 1.12.1 and the ISO didn't seem much bigger. Latest version is 1.12.4 which has just come out.

Pidgin 2.10.7 on PPM doesn't check for dependancies but 2.10.6 does. After updating the package lists the one on pet_packages-slacko14 shows up and that installs and runs fine.

Good it seems to run fine. Let me know how the netgear device goes.

As for gnumeric.. well, it does need gtk3, a substantial increase in iso size. I'm not going to do it. The version we have does the job, near as well as calc (oo or libre) for about 3 M in the iso. Gtk+3 will add about another 10M, not worth it in an official puppy for 1 program.

As for pidgin, yes it's a known issue that programs in the patches repo don't resolve dependencies, but if (as you found) install the original first, then update all is well. Not perfect I agree, I'll have a think about that one (could affect a couple of other programs too).

[SFR]

My motherboard decided to give up (3yr warranty, 3 yr and 2 mo since purchase!)[...]

Planned obsolescence at its finest...

Ok, a couple of things for you to consider:

1. Yeah, I know you don't particularly like the subject of "spaces in filenames", but...
It's an old issue. While mounting (via mouse left-click) an .?fs or .iso image and its path/name contains spaces or even ' (apostrophe) and/or the file extension is in upper case, we're getting "Failed mounting or unmounting." error.
It maybe doesn't really matter if it comes for .sfs, .2fs, etc., but in case of .iso it was a frequent problem for me.
Three small mods, one in /bin/mount, line 43:

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  mount-FULL -n "${@}"				# SFR: double quotes

and two more in /usr/sbin/filemnt, first at line 63:

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MntPt='/mnt/'"`echo "$imgFile" |sed "s#^\.##g" |sed "s#/#+#g" | tr ' ' '_'`"	# SFR, added 'tr'

and the second one, right after line 90:

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  Ext=`echo "$imgFile" |sed 's/^.*\.//'`	# get file type from extention
  Ext="`echo $Ext | tr [:upper:] [:lower:]`" 	# SFR: extension to lowercase (If Bash >= 4 it could be just Ext=${Ext,,} )

Not sure if there are some caveats, but I'm running Slacko-5.5 with these mods from a few months now and haven't encountered any problems.
Modified scripts attached.

2. Quite old issue as well, but I haven't taken care of it on my own ('petget' is quite complex app).
When a user is installing a .pet (locally, offline) and (s)he begin to install another one, whereas the previous installation haven't completed yet (incl. "Please wait, updating help page and menu" part), strange things may happen, e.g. JWM becomes broken - lack of bottom panel, broken or lack of right-click menu, corrupted theme and stuff like that. Also observed with Openbox once.
I think the easiest way to prevent such behavior could be some kind of message that "previous installation isn't completed yet" & exit...

Anyway, like I said, these are just to consider.

Greetings!

[01micko]

1. Yeah, I know you don't particularly like the subject of "spaces in filenames", but...
It's an old issue. While mounting (via mouse left-click) an .?fs or .iso image and its path/name contains spaces or even ' (apostrophe) and/or the file extension is in upper case, we're getting "Failed mounting or unmounting." error.
It maybe doesn't really matter if it comes for .sfs, .2fs, etc., but in case of .iso it was a frequent problem for me.
Three small mods, one in /bin/mount, line 43:

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  mount-FULL -n "${@}"				# SFR: double quotes

and two more in /usr/sbin/filemnt, first at line 63:

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MntPt='/mnt/'"`echo "$imgFile" |sed "s#^\.##g" |sed "s#/#+#g" | tr ' ' '_'`"	# SFR, added 'tr'

and the second one, right after line 90:

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  Ext=`echo "$imgFile" |sed 's/^.*\.//'`	# get file type from extention
  Ext="`echo $Ext | tr [:upper:] [:lower:]`" 	# SFR: extension to lowercase (If Bash >= 4 it could be just Ext=${Ext,,} )

Not sure if there are some caveats, but I'm running Slacko-5.5 with these mods from a few months now and haven't encountered any problems.
Modified scripts attached.

It's not that I don't like spaces in filenames, that's unavoidable with music, dvds etc, but shell scripts; I flat refuse to acknowledge that a shell script can be named with a space! Call me old school if you like but if some sort of distinction between words is needed then there is nothing wrong with _ or - chars .
I'll add the improved mount script and suggest to BK.

On the subject, I had PBurn just quit on me without visible error trying to burn my win7 image... ha! S P A C E S .

2. Quite old issue as well, but I haven't taken care of it on my own ('petget' is quite complex app).
When a user is installing a .pet (locally, offline) and (s)he begin to install another one, whereas the previous installation haven't completed yet (incl. "Please wait, updating help page and menu" part), strange things may happen, e.g. JWM becomes broken - lack of bottom panel, broken or lack of right-click menu, corrupted theme and stuff like that. Also observed with Openbox once.
I think the easiest way to prevent such behavior could be some kind of message that "previous installation isn't completed yet" & exit...

Anyway, like I said, these are just to consider.

Greetings!

Good point about petget, and I did see the bad wm behaviour a long time ago, but didn't narrow down what caused it, as it didn't worry me too much because it was a disposable save file. I will suggest to BK to test if there is a pid before running from a click and if so maybe splash a small wait message.

Cheers!

[SFR]

Thanks Mick!

As for "JWM" issue, I only recently assoiciated this with 'petget', while installing lots of .pets from a USB stick - I guess it happened because it was slower than from HDD, so there was enough time for things to break.
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@Zigbert: small problem with pmount.
"Tick box for single window" doesn't work.

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   <button><input file stock=\"gtk-ok\"></input><label>$(gettext 'Ok')</label></button> 

and a few lines later is:

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 if [ "$EXIT" = "OK" ];then

but the $EXIT will be "Ok", not "OK" (or something else, depending on translation).
The addition of <action>exit:OK</action> works for me, but maybe there's a better way..?

I also wonder why "Tick for pmount to quit after mount/unmount" option is hardcoded to be always disabled? Not that I'm keen to use it, I'm just curious.

Greetings!

[zigbert]

SFR
Thank you for the pmount fix
I have included it.

Look here


Sigmund

[Jades]

You mean you haven't accumulated enough redundant components to build 3 complete PCs, if only you had some spare cases?!

Ha! Sure.. but it's my most powerful.. anyway, new mobo is up and running .. and I can't believe how cool it runs for AMD, (same cpu as old mobo). While I was at it I upgraded the RAM from 2 to 4 GB. Still have plenty to do, unfortunately including a win7 install, needed for my homework.

I actually have a potentially more powerful system than my K6 in a cardboard box in my room. It's the old mainboard from the main family PC, and is an Athlon XP 1800+ setup. Reason I'm not using it is that I know from when it was new that Win98 doesn't run on it so I wouldn't be able to run my old DOS games natively. If only I had a spare case. Oh, and a bigger room!

Still too early to say for sure what the wireless perfomance with my troublesome Netgear WN111v2 USB dongle is like but it seems to work fine on Upup Raring 3.9.9.1 - on that when the connection does drop Pwireless manages to re-establish it straight away

Good it seems to run fine. Let me know how the netgear device goes.

During the long period of downloading Precise 5.7 Retro I saw Frisbee announce that the link was down and it then brought the link back up again without intervention from me. Performance seems as good as Upup Raring 3.9.9.1. I'll see how it does with a more intensive internet session with lots of data transferred.

The connection dropouts I experienced often seemed to have more to do with the amount of data transferred rather than anything else obvious. On the Puppies I had the problems on the system wouldn't notice the problem and I'd have to manually reset the connection, which at least on Frisbee was simply a matter of hitting the Restart Networks button rather than having to reload the profile then type all the IP addresses in again like I had to with Network Wizard.

As for gnumeric.. well, it does need gtk3, a substantial increase in iso size. I'm not going to do it. The version we have does the job, near as well as calc (oo or libre) for about 3 M in the iso. Gtk+3 will add about another 10M, not worth it in an official puppy for 1 program.

Fair enough I suppose, can't blame me for trying though? Any chance of having a pet of the latest one and its deps on PPM? I see the current version that comes with Slacko is the newest in the 1.10.x family. There's a 1.11.x family too but that may have been when they started needing gtk3, I can't remember.

As for pidgin, yes it's a known issue that programs in the patches repo don't resolve dependencies, but if (as you found) install the original first, then update all is well. Not perfect I agree, I'll have a think about that one (could affect a couple of other programs too).

Well the one in pet_packages-slacko14 installed fine but for some reason didn't show up until I updated the package lists. I'll double-check that though in case my search after the pfix-ram was actually on just the main slackware repo.