Dpup Exprimo 5.X.15

[edoc]

I just received a SiliconDust HDTV tuner that puts the output on an IP.

Same as this except that mine came via WOOT:
<http://www.amazon.com/SiliconDust-HDHom ... 397&sr=1-1>

To SiliconDust's great testimony they provide drivers for Apple, Linux, and MS versions of windows.

They list MythTV on the box for Linux but here's where their Linux link takes you once you bring up the IP address of the device:

<http://www.silicondust.com/support/hdho ... ads/linux/>

Question:

1. Will this work with Puppy or is there something about it that is a problem?

2. Can this be made a PET or SFS?

3. Does this appear to replace the need for MythTV, or is this necessary for MythTV to work with this device?

Thanks!

[pemasu]

Homerun source seems to create GUI for tuning your tuner card and feeding the right firmware for it. So...it just configuration gui. Useful and needed of course.

MythTv is full live TV media management software. I suppose you could watch and record TV broadcasts with VLC also...I once did so wiht my TV tuner usb stick. Worked just fine. I even posted my steps to murga-forum...at Lucid Puppy 5.1. time. Should be still somewhere inside this forum.

To create a pet of the hdhomerun_config_gui. Sure...of course. Compile it...install it to the folder and create pet....with menu entry included. Trivial stuff. Might do it when I am with Dpup 5.1.4 next time...but now I watch livetv.ru netstream....ice hockey...with HDMI to my big LCD TV..in Upup Precise....so cant do it now.

But it compiled just fine in Upup Precise....I do want to test if it compiles ok in Upup Precise....so I wanted to test compile it.

[edoc]

OK, thanks re. the PET advice, I will wait on you as I always break those things.

I just looked at the Upup Precise thread.

What is (are) the advantage (s) of Upup Precise over dup Exprimo 5x14, please?

I'm also going to have a look at the Puppy Cloud threads ...

Thanks!

[pemasu]

Right now...Upup Precise is just plaything for continuing Barry Kaulers work with Precise Pangolin. I have used Barry`s Precise Puppy woof specs and improved them somewhat and got some more things to work.

I didnt have more profound plan for it. It is and was a Puppy build for experimenting with it. It is somewhat useful already.

I would consider it still heavily alpha release. And I am quite busy atm. I dont have much time for puplet building.

As always....if it aint broken....dont fix it.

[edoc]

Thanks for the clarification!

We sure appreciate 5x14 and hoped it would be extended and/or supported for a while to come - not necessarily in a big way but just to stay current with typical needs.

Our 16 yr old son and I will be studying HTML5 using Robin Nixon's "HTML5 Crash Course".

He is also learning iPhone/iPod and Android app programming via an online friend.

I'm inching toward setting up my domains on a Linode virtual server and exploring some degree of Cloud Puppy usage there as well.

Its a pain to try to keep everything sync'd across a laptop, netbook, and smartphone - always seems to be something missing when I am away from home and want it!

[Shep]

I'm still using Exprimo 5.X.12 (I think it is). Have been using it for 5 or so months, it seems, and it is working flawlessly on my old PIII desktop, except in last 2 weeks the shutdown has ceased to work. Nothing happens. For a few days I was able to select reboot and then hit the power switch as the new boot came up, but now the reboot menu item doesn't do anything, either. I'm booting from the CD each time. Today I just had to kill the power on my merrily running puppy, and it hurt me to do that.

On a separate note, IMO FireFox 11.0 is the acme of FF versions. It has never frozen or died, and I usually have 20 to 30 tabs open, on this 560MHz PIII with about 800MB of RAM. Viewing videos "live" is out of the question, though.

[edoc]

Homerun source seems to create GUI for tuning your tuner card and feeding the right firmware for it. So...it just configuration gui. Useful and needed of course.

MythTv is full live TV media management software. I suppose you could watch and record TV broadcasts with VLC also...I once did so wiht my TV tuner usb stick. Worked just fine. I even posted my steps to murga-forum...at Lucid Puppy 5.1. time. Should be still somewhere inside this forum.

To create a pet of the hdhomerun_config_gui. Sure...of course. Compile it...install it to the folder and create pet....with menu entry included. Trivial stuff. Might do it when I am with Dpup 5.1.4 next time...but now I watch livetv.ru netstream....ice hockey...with HDMI to my big LCD TV..in Upup Precise....so cant do it now.

But it compiled just fine in Upup Precise....I do want to test if it compiles ok in Upup Precise....so I wanted to test compile it.

stu90 replied here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 377#627377

And linked to here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 606#625606

But I am thinking that the PET you described, to allow MythTV, makes the most sense given the extra features of MythTV.

WDYT?

[edoc]

Any chance these Debian Etch instructions for MythTV would be helpful to someone trying to build a PET or SFS for MythTV for Puppy Linux dpup Exprimo 5x14?

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Installing_M ... ebian_Etch

[edoc]

To create a pet of the hdhomerun_config_gui. Sure...of course. Compile it...install it to the folder and create pet....with menu entry included. Trivial stuff. Might do it when I am with Dpup 5.1.4 next time...but now I watch livetv.ru netstream....ice hockey...with HDMI to my big LCD TV..in Upup Precise....so cant do it now.
.

I tried ...

As usual, things came to a screeching halt immediately.

What am I doing wrong, please?

# ./configure
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/ginstall -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking for a thread-safe mkdir -p... ./install-sh -c -d
checking for gawk... gawk
checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... no
checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... no
checking for g++... no
checking for c++... no
checking for gpp... no
checking for aCC... no
checking for CC... no
checking for cxx... no
checking for cc++... no
checking for cl.exe... no
checking for FCC... no
checking for KCC... no
checking for RCC... no
checking for xlC_r... no
checking for xlC... no
checking for C++ compiler default output file name...
configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables
See `config.log' for more details.

[edoc]

OK, I missed the obvious ... I hadn't downloaded and installed the devx for 5X14!

Did that and config and make appear to have run OK.

make install produced the following:

# make install
Making install in ../libhdhomerun
make[1]: Entering directory `/initrd/mnt/dev_save/savestuff/silicondust/libhdhomerun'
(ignoring request to make install)
make[1]: Leaving directory `/initrd/mnt/dev_save/savestuff/silicondust/libhdhomerun'
Making install in src
make[1]: Entering directory `/initrd/mnt/dev_save/savestuff/silicondust/hdhomerun_config_gui/src'
make[2]: Entering directory `/initrd/mnt/dev_save/savestuff/silicondust/hdhomerun_config_gui/src'
test -z "/usr/local/bin" || .././install-sh -c -d "/usr/local/bin"
/usr/bin/ginstall -c 'hdhomerun_config_gui' '/usr/local/bin/hdhomerun_config_gui'
/usr/bin/ginstall -c ../../libhdhomerun/libhdhomerun.so /usr/local/lib
make[2]: Nothing to be done for `install-data-am'.
make[2]: Leaving directory `/initrd/mnt/dev_save/savestuff/silicondust/hdhomerun_config_gui/src'
make[1]: Leaving directory `/initrd/mnt/dev_save/savestuff/silicondust/hdhomerun_config_gui/src'
Making install in po
make[1]: Entering directory `/initrd/mnt/dev_save/savestuff/silicondust/hdhomerun_config_gui/po'
if test -r ".././mkinstalldirs"; then \
.././mkinstalldirs /usr/local/share; \
else \
/bin/sh ../mkinstalldirs /usr/local/share; \
fi
if test "hdhomerun_config_gui" = "glib"; then \
if test -r ".././mkinstalldirs"; then \
.././mkinstalldirs /usr/local/share/glib-2.0/gettext/po; \
else \
/bin/sh ../mkinstalldirs /usr/local/share/glib-2.0/gettext/po; \
fi; \
/usr/bin/ginstall -c -m 644 ./Makefile.in.in \
/usr/local/share/glib-2.0/gettext/po/Makefile.in.in; \
else \
: ; \
fi
make[1]: Leaving directory `/initrd/mnt/dev_save/savestuff/silicondust/hdhomerun_config_gui/po'
make[1]: Entering directory `/initrd/mnt/dev_save/savestuff/silicondust/hdhomerun_config_gui'
make[2]: Entering directory `/initrd/mnt/dev_save/savestuff/silicondust/hdhomerun_config_gui'
make[2]: Nothing to be done for `install-exec-am'.
make[2]: Nothing to be done for `install-data-am'.
make[2]: Leaving directory `/initrd/mnt/dev_save/savestuff/silicondust/hdhomerun_config_gui'
make[1]: Leaving directory `/initrd/mnt/dev_save/savestuff/silicondust/hdhomerun_config_gui'
#

[edoc]

Tried this:

# ldconfig
# make install
Making install in ../libhdhomerun
make[1]: Entering directory `/initrd/mnt/dev_save/savestuff/silicondust/libhdhomerun'
(ignoring request to make install)
make[1]: Leaving directory `/initrd/mnt/dev_save/savestuff/silicondust/libhdhomerun'
Making install in src
make[1]: Entering directory `/initrd/mnt/dev_save/savestuff/silicondust/hdhomerun_config_gui/src'
make[2]: Entering directory `/initrd/mnt/dev_save/savestuff/silicondust/hdhomerun_config_gui/src'
test -z "/usr/local/bin" || .././install-sh -c -d "/usr/local/bin"
/usr/bin/ginstall -c 'hdhomerun_config_gui' '/usr/local/bin/hdhomerun_config_gui'
/usr/bin/ginstall -c ../../libhdhomerun/libhdhomerun.so /usr/local/lib
make[2]: Nothing to be done for `install-data-am'.
make[2]: Leaving directory `/initrd/mnt/dev_save/savestuff/silicondust/hdhomerun_config_gui/src'
make[1]: Leaving directory `/initrd/mnt/dev_save/savestuff/silicondust/hdhomerun_config_gui/src'
Making install in po
make[1]: Entering directory `/initrd/mnt/dev_save/savestuff/silicondust/hdhomerun_config_gui/po'
if test -r ".././mkinstalldirs"; then \
.././mkinstalldirs /usr/local/share; \
else \
/bin/sh ../mkinstalldirs /usr/local/share; \
fi
if test "hdhomerun_config_gui" = "glib"; then \
if test -r ".././mkinstalldirs"; then \
.././mkinstalldirs /usr/local/share/glib-2.0/gettext/po; \
else \
/bin/sh ../mkinstalldirs /usr/local/share/glib-2.0/gettext/po; \
fi; \
/usr/bin/ginstall -c -m 644 ./Makefile.in.in \
/usr/local/share/glib-2.0/gettext/po/Makefile.in.in; \
else \
: ; \
fi
make[1]: Leaving directory `/initrd/mnt/dev_save/savestuff/silicondust/hdhomerun_config_gui/po'
make[1]: Entering directory `/initrd/mnt/dev_save/savestuff/silicondust/hdhomerun_config_gui'
make[2]: Entering directory `/initrd/mnt/dev_save/savestuff/silicondust/hdhomerun_config_gui'
make[2]: Nothing to be done for `install-exec-am'.
make[2]: Nothing to be done for `install-data-am'.
make[2]: Leaving directory `/initrd/mnt/dev_save/savestuff/silicondust/hdhomerun_config_gui'
make[1]: Leaving directory `/initrd/mnt/dev_save/savestuff/silicondust/hdhomerun_config_gui'
#

PupScan Devices shows this:

Manufacturer=Hauppauge
Product=Hauppauge Device
SerialNumber=0013672217
VendorID=2040 ProductID=c200 KERNEL-DRIVER(builtin)=(none)

Do I need to do something with the contents of the Firmware folder where there are 9 .bin files?

The SiliconDust instructions for Linux do not mention that folder.

[pemasu]

edoc. I think that the tuner needs that the right firmware is available and can be loaded. If you run in console dmesg command, I believe you can find the rows how that tuner has been recognized and what happens when the driver has been loaded. There should be also rows about firmware loading and initializing the tuner...or something like that.

All above is just generic...but I got the feeling you need to have right firmware for your tuner available. The hdhomerun_config_gui should show your tuner and there is also option to load the firmware or upgrade it.

[charlie6]

Hi,
Any link where to get linux kernel headers k 2.6.39.4 ... ?
May I assume it is well here? ("headers" missing)

Code: Select all

http://bkhome.org/sources/kernel-2.6.39.4/linux-2.6.39.tar.bz2

Thanks in advance
Charlie

[edoc]

edoc. I think that the tuner needs that the right firmware is available and can be loaded. If you run in console dmesg command, I believe you can find the rows how that tuner has been recognized and what happens when the driver has been loaded. There should be also rows about firmware loading and initializing the tuner...or something like that.

All above is just generic...but I got the feeling you need to have right firmware for your tuner available. The hdhomerun_config_gui should show your tuner and there is also option to load the firmware or upgrade it.

I do have the tuner running - now I need to get MythTV or something running so I may view the stream and use the DVR features.

Thanks!

[edoc]

I know you are crazy-busy but I have to ask ...

Any chance of a 5x15 with the 3.x kernel?

It seems such is necessary for a bunch of video-related hardware (e.g. Hauppauge, SiliconDust, etc) if one wants to use MythTV and other apps.

We are really comfortable here with the dpup Exprimo series on several laptops and netbooks and I'm not anxious to deal with unhappy users forced into a significant change if avoidable.

WDYT?

[James C]

How about http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 740#606740 Kernel 3.2.14 or http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 472#564472 Kernel 3.1.10 ?

[jim3630]

How about http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 740#606740 Kernel 3.2.14 or http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 472#564472 Kernel 3.1.10 ?

in a frugal install can you delete puppy_squeeze_5x14 replacing with below and just reboot? probably need to update the menu.list rerun grub4dos.

http://www.smokey01.com/pemasu/Kernel_s ... 0-dpup.pet

[edoc]

How about http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 740#606740 Kernel 3.2.14 or http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 472#564472 Kernel 3.1.10 ?

Is there a reason to prefer one over the other?

Is there a potential conflict with common dpup Exprimo 5x14 friendly apps from either?

Thanks!

[jim3630]

Any chance of a 5x15 with the 3.x kernel?

It seems such is necessary for a bunch of video-related hardware (e.g. Hauppauge, SiliconDust, etc) if one wants to use MythTV and other apps.

edoc

rereading guess you are not sure if new 3xkernnel is necessary.

Is there a reason to prefer one over the other?

i had installed 5x14 along with the 3x kernel dpups when they came out and could not tell much difference in limited testing seemed as fast. that is just running wifi setup, ff, and playing some movies.

pemasu would probable would know about potential conflict with common dpup Exprimo 5x14 friendly apps.

[edoc]

I definitely have to have the 3x kernel as otherwise it appears that I cannot use my recently-acquired devices.

OK re. Pemasu -- I do need his input re. the impact on existing apps and hardware compatibility.

I will need & want to upgrade all of the hardware to the same distro and kernel, to simplify maintenance.

Thanks!