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edoc


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PostPosted: Tue 15 May 2012, 22:36    Post subject:  

Tried this:

Quote:
# ldconfig
# make install
Making install in ../libhdhomerun
make[1]: Entering directory `/initrd/mnt/dev_save/savestuff/silicondust/libhdhomerun'
(ignoring request to make install)
make[1]: Leaving directory `/initrd/mnt/dev_save/savestuff/silicondust/libhdhomerun'
Making install in src
make[1]: Entering directory `/initrd/mnt/dev_save/savestuff/silicondust/hdhomerun_config_gui/src'
make[2]: Entering directory `/initrd/mnt/dev_save/savestuff/silicondust/hdhomerun_config_gui/src'
test -z "/usr/local/bin" || .././install-sh -c -d "/usr/local/bin"
/usr/bin/ginstall -c 'hdhomerun_config_gui' '/usr/local/bin/hdhomerun_config_gui'
/usr/bin/ginstall -c ../../libhdhomerun/libhdhomerun.so /usr/local/lib
make[2]: Nothing to be done for `install-data-am'.
make[2]: Leaving directory `/initrd/mnt/dev_save/savestuff/silicondust/hdhomerun_config_gui/src'
make[1]: Leaving directory `/initrd/mnt/dev_save/savestuff/silicondust/hdhomerun_config_gui/src'
Making install in po
make[1]: Entering directory `/initrd/mnt/dev_save/savestuff/silicondust/hdhomerun_config_gui/po'
if test -r ".././mkinstalldirs"; then \
.././mkinstalldirs /usr/local/share; \
else \
/bin/sh ../mkinstalldirs /usr/local/share; \
fi
if test "hdhomerun_config_gui" = "glib"; then \
if test -r ".././mkinstalldirs"; then \
.././mkinstalldirs /usr/local/share/glib-2.0/gettext/po; \
else \
/bin/sh ../mkinstalldirs /usr/local/share/glib-2.0/gettext/po; \
fi; \
/usr/bin/ginstall -c -m 644 ./Makefile.in.in \
/usr/local/share/glib-2.0/gettext/po/Makefile.in.in; \
else \
: ; \
fi
make[1]: Leaving directory `/initrd/mnt/dev_save/savestuff/silicondust/hdhomerun_config_gui/po'
make[1]: Entering directory `/initrd/mnt/dev_save/savestuff/silicondust/hdhomerun_config_gui'
make[2]: Entering directory `/initrd/mnt/dev_save/savestuff/silicondust/hdhomerun_config_gui'
make[2]: Nothing to be done for `install-exec-am'.
make[2]: Nothing to be done for `install-data-am'.
make[2]: Leaving directory `/initrd/mnt/dev_save/savestuff/silicondust/hdhomerun_config_gui'
make[1]: Leaving directory `/initrd/mnt/dev_save/savestuff/silicondust/hdhomerun_config_gui'
#


PupScan Devices shows this:

Quote:

Manufacturer=Hauppauge
Product=Hauppauge Device
SerialNumber=0013672217
VendorID=2040 ProductID=c200 KERNEL-DRIVER(builtin)=(none)


Do I need to do something with the contents of the Firmware folder where there are 9 .bin files?

The SiliconDust instructions for Linux do not mention that folder.

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PostPosted: Thu 17 May 2012, 03:41    Post subject:  

edoc. I think that the tuner needs that the right firmware is available and can be loaded. If you run in console dmesg command, I believe you can find the rows how that tuner has been recognized and what happens when the driver has been loaded. There should be also rows about firmware loading and initializing the tuner...or something like that.

All above is just generic...but I got the feeling you need to have right firmware for your tuner available. The hdhomerun_config_gui should show your tuner and there is also option to load the firmware or upgrade it.
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PostPosted: Thu 17 May 2012, 07:35    Post subject:
Subject description: llinux kernel headers k 2.6.39.4 ... where to get them ?
 

Hi,
Any link where to get linux kernel headers k 2.6.39.4 ... ?
May I assume it is well here? ("headers" missing)
Code:
http://bkhome.org/sources/kernel-2.6.39.4/linux-2.6.39.tar.bz2

Thanks in advance
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PostPosted: Thu 17 May 2012, 08:22    Post subject:  

pemasu wrote:
edoc. I think that the tuner needs that the right firmware is available and can be loaded. If you run in console dmesg command, I believe you can find the rows how that tuner has been recognized and what happens when the driver has been loaded. There should be also rows about firmware loading and initializing the tuner...or something like that.

All above is just generic...but I got the feeling you need to have right firmware for your tuner available. The hdhomerun_config_gui should show your tuner and there is also option to load the firmware or upgrade it.


I do have the tuner running - now I need to get MythTV or something running so I may view the stream and use the DVR features.

Thanks!

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PostPosted: Thu 17 May 2012, 12:42    Post subject:
Subject description: 5x15 with 3.x kernel?
 

I know you are crazy-busy but I have to ask ...

Any chance of a 5x15 with the 3.x kernel?

It seems such is necessary for a bunch of video-related hardware (e.g. Hauppauge, SiliconDust, etc) if one wants to use MythTV and other apps.

We are really comfortable here with the dpup Exprimo series on several laptops and netbooks and I'm not anxious to deal with unhappy users forced into a significant change if avoidable.

WDYT?

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PostPosted: Thu 17 May 2012, 12:55    Post subject:  

How about http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=606740#606740 Kernel 3.2.14 or http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=564472#564472 Kernel 3.1.10 ?
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PostPosted: Thu 17 May 2012, 13:23    Post subject:  

James C wrote:
How about http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=606740#606740 Kernel 3.2.14 or http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=564472#564472 Kernel 3.1.10 ?



in a frugal install can you delete puppy_squeeze_5x14 replacing with below and just reboot? probably need to update the menu.list rerun grub4dos.

http://www.smokey01.com/pemasu/Kernel_sources/kernel-3.1.10-fixed-aufs/linux_kernel-3.1.10-dpup.pet
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PostPosted: Thu 17 May 2012, 13:36    Post subject:  

James C wrote:
How about http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=606740#606740 Kernel 3.2.14 or http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=564472#564472 Kernel 3.1.10 ?


Is there a reason to prefer one over the other?

Is there a potential conflict with common dpup Exprimo 5x14 friendly apps from either?

Thanks!

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PostPosted: Thu 17 May 2012, 13:58    Post subject:
Subject description: 5x15 with 3.x kernel?
 

edoc wrote:

Any chance of a 5x15 with the 3.x kernel?

It seems such is necessary for a bunch of video-related hardware (e.g. Hauppauge, SiliconDust, etc) if one wants to use MythTV and other apps.



edoc

rereading guess you are not sure if new 3xkernnel is necessary.

Is there a reason to prefer one over the other?

i had installed 5x14 along with the 3x kernel dpups when they came out and could not tell much difference in limited testing seemed as fast. that is just running wifi setup, ff, and playing some movies.

pemasu would probable would know about potential conflict with common dpup Exprimo 5x14 friendly apps.
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PostPosted: Thu 17 May 2012, 14:24    Post subject:  

I definitely have to have the 3x kernel as otherwise it appears that I cannot use my recently-acquired devices.

OK re. Pemasu -- I do need his input re. the impact on existing apps and hardware compatibility.

I will need & want to upgrade all of the hardware to the same distro and kernel, to simplify maintenance.

Thanks!

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PostPosted: Thu 17 May 2012, 14:56    Post subject:  

at one time switching kernels was more involved than maybe required now.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=60180
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PostPosted: Thu 17 May 2012, 15:47    Post subject:  

jim3630 wrote:
at one time switching kernels was more involved than maybe required now.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=60180


Simple for some always seems to get messy for me ...

I see the 5x13 kernel upgrades but none for 5x14, for some reason.

I know we upgraded to 5x14 to solve a problem or two so regressing to 5x13 could merely complicate matters.

Have you spotted someone doing a kernel upgrade for 5x14?

I'd like to see how they did it and what they discovered about compatability and stability.

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PostPosted: Thu 17 May 2012, 16:00    Post subject:  

If you want a good 3.x kernel, go for either 3.0 or 3.2 - the former is supported by the Linux developers for two years and the latter for 5 years, by both the Ubuntu 12.04 maintainers and the Debian 7 developers.

I use the former in my distro and so far it's perfectly stable - I updated with every bug-fix release and it's awesome - since all minor releases are compatible, the build script I wrote for 3.0.0 works flawlessly even now, with 3.0.31.

Bear in mind that there may be some incompatibilities, because of the Debian packages, as some rely on the "2.6" in the kernel version.

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PostPosted: Thu 17 May 2012, 16:28    Post subject:  

edoc wrote:
jim3630 wrote:
at one time switching kernels was more involved than maybe required now.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=60180


Simple for some always seems to get messy for me ...

I see the 5x13 kernel upgrades but none for 5x14, for some reason.

I know we upgraded to 5x14 to solve a problem or two so regressing to 5x13 could merely complicate matters.

Have you spotted someone doing a kernel upgrade for 5x14?

I'd like to see how they did it and what they discovered about compatability and stability.


edoc
i'm with you has to be pretty well documented for me to follow. i have not spotted anyone doing a kernel upgrade for 5x14 nor have i done any kernel upgrades after reading that thread and some research decided not to try. iirc saluki has a kernel auto upgrader via the adrive builder. the adrive builder is menu driven and easy to do. i have done it successfully as it is geared to novice level.
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PostPosted: Thu 17 May 2012, 20:56    Post subject:  

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