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Users and Developers - Symbiotic Relationship
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jonyo
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 2727 |
anyway it's up to folks to decide for themselves, you make a clear distinction in what you say vs what BK sez Last edited by jonyo on Sat 21 May 2011, 21:51; edited 1 time in total |
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WhoDo
 Joined: 11 Jul 2006 Posts: 4441 Location: Lake Macquarie NSW Australia |
... and I'm not really fat! Thanks. Now I feel a lot better! 
_________________ Actions speak louder than words ... and they usually work when words don't! SIP:whodo@proxy01.sipphone.com; whodo@realsip.com |
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Q5sys
 Joined: 11 Dec 2008 Posts: 849 |
Sounds an awful lot like my comment a few days ago...
However in other news...
I'm sorry but this has GOT to be the dumbest thing I've heard you said in this and the other threads. Why something fell doesnt matter to you? As has been said already in this thread 'those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.' Let me just subsitute topics here and show you how silly your arguement is. The fact that a National Socialist Party Governance of a society (Nazi Party) ever existed tells me that there is a need for Nazi governance. Why Nazism ceased operation is of no consequence at this late date. Sorry... but this thread has gone on long enough with a nazi reference.. so I figured it was about time. 
And since I'm going there... I might as well go one more... 'Hitler was democratically elected.' And lastly...
To take this one step further... why have my suggestions for the PuppyLinux FAQ gone ignored? I thought public governance and giving everyone a 'seat at the table' was what someone wanted. Why are you not letting me have a seat at the table you run? Can you say Hypocritical? You're shouting that someone didnt respond to your questions within 6 hours... while you ignore comments on your work that have been made multiple times and you continue to ignore them. Can you say Hypocritical? 
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jonyo
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 2727 |
this strikes me as someone who understands the significance of a user-base http://puppylinuxnews.org/home/p_9/
Puppy will be extremely friendly for Linux newbies Puppy will just work, no hassles |
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puppyluvr
 Joined: 06 Jan 2008 Posts: 3053 Location: Chickasha Oklahoma |
 Hello,
Another perspective... As a musician, amongst other things, I have had to deal with many "Band" situations...The similarity cannot be ignored... Everyone wants to decide what we play, what we play it with, and where we play it.. But it always comes down to the ONE guy who ACTUALLY takes the time to learn the new song, to set up the new equipment, to book the gig.. All fun and partying right...Except someone has to make sure the equipment gets loaded, the tab gets paid, and the band gets paid... Sure, big time bands have a Manager, who takes care of all of that... But we are not a professional band, cause we dont get paid.. So one of us has to do it...We used to have a guy that did it all... Now we have to rotate... If you dont like the way the current guy is doing it...well.... Learn the song, show the rest of the band how it goes... Dig out the new equipment, and RTFM, learn how it works, and show the rest.. If they like it...cool...if not, well.... You wanna be Jimmy Page, you gotta strap on that Les Paul, learn how to play it, and be creative.. But no fan would tell Jimmy what, or how, to play... Just be glad for what they were given.... And Puppy is the only band where you, as a fan, can start another band, and still use the original bands equipment....They will even help you set up, write songs, whatever... And you can even call your band Fred Zepplin..And they will still help you.... But if you cant play.....shut up and listen....
Not if you let the crowd run the mixing board..... _________________ "Close the "Windows", and open your eyes, to a whole new world" http://puppylinuxstuff.meownplanet.net/puppyluvr/ http://theplpd.webs.com/ 
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jonyo
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WhoDo
Joined: 11 Jul 2006 Posts: 4441 Location: Lake Macquarie NSW Australia |
... and immediately following your hand-picked quote comes this little gem:
Now tell me you didn't just ignore that bit, jonyo? BTW, the author of that page is raffy, former titular head of the now defunct Puppy Linux Foundation; and he's still going strong behind the scenes! Go raffy! 
It is a mistake to equate "linux newbies" with ordinary users and especially with extraordinary USERS. The latter usually know enough to make specific demands without bothering to learn enough to make the changes for themselves, or others. I rest my case, Yer Honar! 
_________________ Actions speak louder than words ... and they usually work when words don't! SIP:whodo@proxy01.sipphone.com; whodo@realsip.com |
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WhoDo
Joined: 11 Jul 2006 Posts: 4441 Location: Lake Macquarie NSW Australia |
Says who? Are you presuming to speak for everyone else who doesn't speak for puppy linux? That would include me, wouldn't it? You don't speak for me! BTW, personally I never did "get lost" ... I just couldn't understand all that stuff about weird experimental laboratories and killer castaways! Evangaline Lilly was HOT though!
_________________ Actions speak louder than words ... and they usually work when words don't! SIP:whodo@proxy01.sipphone.com; whodo@realsip.com |
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jonyo
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 2727 |
everyone has a voice here and i didn't say "we" as an individual that's how i respond to take it or leave it types like you
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jonyo
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 2727 |
mission statement is one thing and of prime importance coming directly from BK, didn't even look at your stuff and it is another matter |
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jonyo
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 2727 |
and to be honest I had no idea you were the type ..back in the day I had great respect for you as a noob i dropped out shortly after your wonders with 2.15 and just glanced at the mess that came after and no wonder back then, the take it or leave it was bigger than just you |
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puppyluvr
Joined: 06 Jan 2008 Posts: 3053 Location: Chickasha Oklahoma |
Hello,
I do not EVER presume to speak for Puppy... Do you presume to speak for the Puppy user base??? For the thousands of users, some of whom, every day, post how great Puppy is and how helpful its Members are??? To clarify without metaphor.... If you cannot develop, be grateful for those who do, for nothing... Appreciate the product, or learn how to make it how you want it... Im not being rude, or mean...just realistic... Do you complain if a gift isnt what you wanted??? Not how I was raised.... Do you let your kids "demand"?? Pisses me off, so they really wont get it then... What ever happened to appreciation....... And only John Murga can make me "get lost".... I`ve pissed off better foes than thou... I`m still here....
@Edit....I dont necessarily disagree with your ideas / desires... Just the delivery..... _________________ "Close the "Windows", and open your eyes, to a whole new world" http://puppylinuxstuff.meownplanet.net/puppyluvr/ http://theplpd.webs.com/
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jonyo
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 2727 |
no i can make you get lost i can chose to be involved with you or ignore you or go with someone else to my liking to whatever degree i chose i already spoke on who i speak for |
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RetroTechGuy
 Joined: 15 Dec 2009 Posts: 2301 Location: USA |
This does not logically follow. If I read your statement, you wish to imply that if the devs expect no feedback, that their tools/product will not be used. Clearly false. A good tool will be used regardless of whether feedback is expected, requested, or ignored. Similarly, a poor tool/product won't be used, regardless of how much feedback is requested, addressed, or whatnot. _________________ Wellminded Search Add swapfile |
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puppyluvr
Joined: 06 Jan 2008 Posts: 3053 Location: Chickasha Oklahoma |
Hello,
Sorry, missed that one... Pray tell... WhoDo you speak for????
_________________ "Close the "Windows", and open your eyes, to a whole new world" http://puppylinuxstuff.meownplanet.net/puppyluvr/ http://theplpd.webs.com/
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