Is there a better pdf viewer for Puppy?

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PaulBx1 · #1 Post by **PaulBx1** » Sun 06 Aug 2006, 03:50

I have been having adobe reader withdrawal symptoms. GSview, that comes with puppy, is pretty lame. I haven't figured out how to copy or extract text, search doesn't seem to work, etc.

I went to the Adobe site and they do have a linux version. Only requires 125MB.

I suppose a lot of that can be eliminated after building it, but still one hopes for something a bit smaller.

Are there any better PDF readers out there, that are still small? Didn't see anything in the pupget or dotpup stuff, may have missed it though.

<later>
The Grumpy Editor's Guide to PDF viewers
A cautionary note
An old recipe for getting acroread

xpdf looks promising. "Xpdf is designed to be small and efficient."

dvw86 · #2 Post by **dvw86** » Sun 06 Aug 2006, 04:46

http://noforum.de/dotpups/acroread-5.0.pup

PaulBx1 · #3 Post by **PaulBx1** » Sun 06 Aug 2006, 06:36

OK, thanks, I installed it. Used 25MB of my storage.

A version that old may well have this security hole, I'm guessing <sigh>.

Now, I wonder how I invoke it? I'm kinda new at this...

I need to tell ROX for example, when I click a pdf I want acroread to start, not GSview. And I need to tell SeaMonkey (pretty sure I can do that once I know where the executable is). And it would be nice to have it in the puppy menu too.

I'm still interested in that xpdf, might try compiling that to see if I can get it working.

<later> OK I found it under /root/my-applications/bin. I see that search works OK, but when I select and copy some text, then get into leafpad to paste it, there is nothing in the paste buffer to paste. I wonder where the copy data is going?

#4 Post by MU » Sun 06 Aug 2006, 07:28

http://www.murga.org/~puppy/viewtopic.p ... hlight=pdf
http://www.murga.org/~puppy/viewtopic.p ... hlight=pdf

Can't test them myself at moment concerning copy&paste, as I'm running my game-optimized-puppy.

Also try:
select something with the mouse, then MIDDLE-click in the target-application to paste.
This is the "X-lowlevel"-way.

Mark

Lobster · #5 Post by **Lobster** » Sun 06 Aug 2006, 07:51

MU wrote: Can't test them myself at moment concerning copy&paste, as I'm running my game-optimized-puppy.

Mark

Just be careful you don't get too involved
http://prezwho.com/insane-german-kid-with-translation/

. . . it's only a game . . .

#6 Post by MU » Sun 06 Aug 2006, 08:20

no, I have my computer beside my bed=couch, so I can game very relaxed

Mark

Dougal · #7 Post by **Dougal** » Sun 06 Aug 2006, 11:34

MU: I tried your epdfview on a clean puppy2.0.0 and it worked fine. It's as great an app as I was hoping, maybe we need to get in touch with the developer, give him some encouragement...

I didn't try copy-paste, but text selection and search worked fine.

Paul: PDF viewers are a bit of a problem... the best one is probably Evince (also views djvu), which is a Gnome (yuck) application, you could try installing it using MU's deb-installer.

vern72023 · #8 Post by **vern72023** » Sun 06 Aug 2006, 11:35

I use FoxitPro (under Wine) which is excellent . There is a free version which works well as a reader , is well maintained, small and standalone.
The pro version which allows cuttting, paste , annotation, markup, etc is 3.5MB. The free version allows this as well if memory serves but adds an advert stamp "edited with Foxit" to the saved page I think.

I think it gives me everything Adobe has that I want and none of the annoyances.

George

PaulBx1 · #9 Post by **PaulBx1** » Mon 07 Aug 2006, 16:15

Also try:
select something with the mouse, then MIDDLE-click in the target-application to paste.
This is the "X-lowlevel"-way.

Doh! I knew that! (slaps forehead with palm)

I tried that 3.0.0 version of xpdf you posted. It searches fine. Opening files is a pain because the dialog is clumsy. Cutting text is lame, just a square box.

I wonder if version 3.01pl2 would work better. He fixed a huge long list of things in it.

Also tried epdf.

Back to my search for a reasonable pdf viewer. It has do these things:
1) Be small, like Puppy (acroread ain't)
2) Be fast, like Puppy (acroread is slow starting)
3) Do searches properly (Puppy's GSview falls on its face)
4) Copy text for pasting in other apps (ditto; same with xpdf and epdf)
5) Print (haven't even started looking at this)
6) Not have too clumsy a user interface
7) Display pdf files reasonably

Most important are 3 and 4. Acroread manages that, so for now that's what I'll use.

BTW the file I'm using to look at the display is adobe's, the one that says "There's more to Acrobat than the Reader!" It has a nice variety of typefaces.

Sit Heel Speak · #10 Post by **Sit Heel Speak** » Mon 07 Aug 2006, 17:13

PaulBx1 wrote:...the file I'm using to look at the display is adobe's, the one that says "There's more to Acrobat than the Reader!" It has a nice variety of typefaces.

How does one access this?

PaulBx1 · #11 Post by **PaulBx1** » Mon 07 Aug 2006, 19:06

It just came with that acroread dotpup dvw86 posted above. I suppose you could use any pdf with a variety of fonts and images. I'm surprised how differently the viewers show this file.

BTW another disadvantage of acroread: not open source.

josepinto · #12 Post by **josepinto** » Sat 19 Aug 2006, 12:04

Hi,

This is my post to the forums.

Foxit Software has released a preview version of Foxit Reader for Linux.

http://www.foxitsoftware.com/pdf/rd_linux.php

It is very small, does not need installation an it is free for non commercial use.

As I already use Foxit Reader in Windows I think it will be perfect for me.
As an alternative, Foxit for Windows runs via Wine.

Jos

edoc · #13 Post by **edoc** » Mon 11 Sep 2006, 00:34

josepinto wrote: Foxit Software has released a preview version of Foxit Reader for Linux.
http://www.foxitsoftware.com/pdf/rd_linux.php

Has anyone tested Foxit Reader for Linux under Puppy?

Will it run or are their dependencies that mess up other Puppy apps?

Will it handle djvu files?

Thanks! doc

muggins · #14 Post by **muggins** » Mon 11 Sep 2006, 02:54

edoc,

see this thread regarding foxit reader:

http://www.murga.org/%7Epuppy/viewtopic ... ight=foxit

edoc · #15 Post by **edoc** » Mon 11 Sep 2006, 03:05

muggins wrote:edoc,

see this thread regarding foxit reader:

http://www.murga.org/%7Epuppy/viewtopic ... ight=foxit

Thanks for link and there was a good link to epdf as well.

No mention of djvu. I read that one of the alternative pdf viewers will handle djvu
but don't recall which it was.

I really need to be able to view and print djvu.

Thanks again! doc

muggins · #16 Post by **muggins** » Mon 11 Sep 2006, 08:38

i remember dougal posting something about dejavu on puppy but can't find the thread.

Dougal · #17 Post by **Dougal** » Mon 11 Sep 2006, 08:43

edoc wrote:No mention of djvu. I read that one of the alternative pdf viewers will handle djvu
but don't recall which it was.

I really need to be able to view and print djvu.

Thanks again! doc

I'll try and remember to upload my DjView package tomorrow...

The viewer that shows djvu is Evince, the Gnome viewer.
Epdfview is supposed to be something like a light-weight, gnome-less Evince, so I thought of suggesting to the developer to add djvu viewing to it...

edoc · #18 Post by **edoc** » Wed 13 Sep 2006, 13:06

Dougal wrote: I'll try and remember to upload my DjView package tomorrow...

Any progress re. uploading your viewer, please?

I have a pdf doc that messes up badly when I try to use one specific page, it pops up
three error windows.

I also have a form I really need to print.

Thanks! doc

#19 Post by **Flash** » Wed 13 Sep 2006, 14:24

Muggins, did you mean djvu, not djavu? Entering "djavu" and "Dougal" in the forum search engine found nothing, but "djvu" found this.

muggins · #20 Post by **muggins** » Thu 14 Sep 2006, 02:36

thanks flash,

yes that's the one i was looking for.

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