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Posted: Mon 21 Jan 2013, 15:04
by pemasu
LateAdopter. Ok. I edited my post. the upload has been broken. It was only about 7 Mb when the original vlc pet was 19 Mb. This vlc is Ubuntu original with all needed libs.

There is also Precise Puppy compiled version which is only 5 Mb in size. But it has worked just fine for me. The size difference of Ubuntu canonical version and Precise Puppy compiled is remarkable.

http://www.smokey01.com/pemasu/pet_pack ... recise.pet

Thanks Raffy of your feedback with wireless.

Posted: Mon 21 Jan 2013, 15:12
by artsown
Concerning lack of wireless, I was reminded of the power
management bug in some 3.X kernels that makes wireless
unreliable with some hardware. So I played with booting
with acpi=off and also tried disabling acpid (and then
loading the rt2500pci driver). Nothing I try has any effect.

Also, it's peculiar that when I try ndiswrapper and my
Windows .inf and driver I see a error message claiming
there is no ndiswrapper. A file search certainly finds all
kinds of ndiswrapper stuff in the file system. So what gives
here?

Searching the internet hasn't turned up any clues so far
either.

Art

Posted: Mon 21 Jan 2013, 15:18
by pemasu
Artsown. There is no ndiswrapper for this kernel. I couldnt get it to compile. I got errors which I couldnt resolve. I havent much tried again though.

The error message has been different than in this fix:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 311#671311

And I suppose you have tried that one also.

Posted: Mon 21 Jan 2013, 15:41
by artsown
pemasu, if you mean:

iwconfig wlan0 power off

that simply generates a error message stating that
there is no such module as wlan0

Which makes sense since no working wireless driver
means no wlan0 I suppose.

Art

Posted: Mon 21 Jan 2013, 15:48
by pemasu
Artsown. Yeah. You are right. My stupidity. Anyway...I am clueless atm.

Posted: Tue 22 Jan 2013, 19:37
by pemasu
I did download latest svn of ndiswrapper:
svn co co https://ndiswrapper.svn.sourceforge.net ... diswrapper ndiswrapper-svn

And it compiled just fine. Maybe my previously used source was broken by heavy usage...or this latest just compiled and the previous one didnt.

Anyway.....here is ndiswrapper kernel module driver.

Posted: Tue 22 Jan 2013, 23:47
by artsown
pemasu, ndiswrapper allowed me to get a connection using frisbee.

At least I managed to discover that wlan0 power management is off by
default using this kernel. And I was able to do some download speed
testing to verify that wireless performance seems solid and reliable. I
was curious to know if the 3.7.2 kernel has the wireless power management
bug, and it does not seem to.

However, I won't be using 3.7.2 with a wireless connection since the
use of the Windows driver gives me too many annoying problems.

Art

Posted: Wed 23 Jan 2013, 20:23
by artsown
I decided to raise a issue here in the hope of getting the attention of
appropriate developers. If there's a more appropriate location on the
forum please let me know.

There's a very serious flaw in Barry's simple network setup and also
the more complicated network setup concerning wireless. Only a small
number of available networks are displayed for selection and they are
not ordered according to signal strength. It's likely that the user's
network has the strongest signal but it may not be presented for
selection. I noticed that Frisbee does order them according to signal
strength as they should be.

Art

nice to have: a kind of Xorg-High.pet ...:-)

Posted: Fri 25 Jan 2013, 11:48
by charlie6
Hi Pemasu,
yeah...! running with the intel_drv.so xorg driver on 945G video controller (Dell 620 laptop)...
glxgears report less than 300 frames in 5 seconds --> :shock: -->:( !

It would be nice to have a kind of Xorg-High.pet (as it is already the case for dPup-Exprimo-3.6.2 --> on the same Dell 620 glxgears rates more than 3000 frames in 5 sec ...!! yesss...-three-thou-sands- :shock: )

i have installed Barry's Precise mesa-8.03.pet ...but results are better ... without it :o ...! (last edited: :oops: oops....uPup-Precise already has mesa-8.04 in it ...)

thanks anyway !
Charlie

Posted: Fri 25 Jan 2013, 21:13
by pemasu
Charlie6. I think Precise Puppy and so....also Upup Precise has everything included.

This post might help you get better response with glxgears:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 457#649457

Posted: Sat 26 Jan 2013, 08:04
by charlie6
Pemasu ...Thanks ...it indeed helps :)
This post might help you get better response with glxgears:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 457#649457
here on intel 82845G Brookdale video chip get ca. 1300 frames in 5 sec --> :)

charlie

Posted: Sat 26 Jan 2013, 10:18
by Fabio T
On INTEL HD4000 video chip :

34943 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6988.600 FPS
34950 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6989.870 FPS
34983 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6996.540 FPS
34734 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6945.522 FPS
34855 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6970.955 FPS

Wow!

Upup Precise 3.7.2 with kernel 3.7.2, no pae

Posted: Sat 26 Jan 2013, 19:13
by Billtoo
@pemasu

I compiled and made a vlc 2.0.5 pet in upup precise 3.7.2, I used the
same method as last summer for vlc 2.0.3.
It'll need the dvb firmware if you still have that pet and qt-4.8.2.
It works on this pc with the ati driver, will likely need the proprietary nvidia driver but may work with the nouveau driver (haven't tested that)
Anyhow, here's the link if you'd like to test it:

http://www.datafilehost.com/download-e450a73f.html

Posted: Sat 26 Jan 2013, 22:54
by pemasu
Billtoo. Thanks. Your vlc-2.0.5 works fine. Subtitles and dvb-c tuning works. Tv channels plays fine. I have several dvb firmware pets. Including the one I think you meant.

All my usual video test formats and files played fine.

I stripped your vlc pet from 12 Mb to 5.2 Mb and then I uploaded it with the same name to the upup repo.

Thanks.

Posted: Sun 27 Jan 2013, 05:43
by James C
# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Upup Precise, version 3.7.2

Chip description:
oem: Copyright 1998 TRIDENT MICROSYSTEMS INC.

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Depth (bits, or planes): 16
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe
Drivers requested to be loaded: vesa

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): vesa
Loaded modules: dbe ddc dri dri2 extmod fb glx int10 kbd mouse record shadow vbe

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1024x768 pixels (321x241 millimeters)
Depth: 16 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#

What should have been the correct "trident" driver actually loaded on initial boot but caused a lot of screen distortion and flickering so I switched to "vesa".

-Computer-
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1700+
Memory : 505MB (148MB used)
Operating System : Unknown distribution
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Sat 26 Jan 2013 11:43:02 PM CST
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Gallium 0.4 on softpipe
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : VIA686A - VIA 82C686A/B rev50

Multimedia audio controller : VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)
Ethernet controller : ADMtek NC100 Network Everywhere Fast Ethernet 10/100 (rev 11)
VGA compatible controller : Trident Microsystems CyberBlade/i1 (prog-if 00 [VGA controller

Code: Select all

# free
             total         used         free       shared      buffers
Mem:        505804       490080        15724            0        46124
-/+ buffers:             443956        61848
Swap:            0            0            0
# 
Pretty good live pfix=ram on an old box with no swap. :)
Too many bad sectors was the end of the hdd.

Posted: Tue 05 Feb 2013, 01:07
by futwerk
new backgrounds.

Posted: Sat 09 Feb 2013, 21:02
by artsown
I managed to finally get wirless working well with the Windows driver. Frisbee now
comes up and makes the wlan0 connection quickly at startup. I can confirm that
power management on wlan0 is off by default. I haven't experienced any symptoms
of the wireless bug. I haven't yet booted up enough times to say anything about
the black screen bug but so far I haven't seen it.

So it certainly looks like the 3.7.2 kernel is free of the wireless bug! Hooray! I plan to
just use 3.7.2 every day for awhile to see if any issues arise.

Art

Precise 3.7.2. with PAE Kernel

Posted: Sat 09 Feb 2013, 22:22
by Fabio T
Precise is the most stable Puppy for me (automatic suspend when lid is closed, etc etc).

No stop in work of software, no other noticeable errors, stability and reliability.

When you think to compile a PAE-kernel version?

Thanks a lot for your work.

fabio

Posted: Sat 09 Feb 2013, 22:33
by Hogweed
Download link in first post ( http://www.smokey01.com/pemasu/UpupPrec ... recise372/ ) is 404 not found.

To the poster above wanting a PAE version - I think this is what you are looking for http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=82255

There's also Precise 5.4.3 - See http://bkhome.org/blog2/?viewDetailed=00070

Posted: Sat 09 Feb 2013, 22:57
by pemasu
Sorry about the download link. I have had to remove my previous work heavily due to disk space requirements. I have had generous permission from smokey01 to upload to the site. Now there has been need to restrict the load. So...I have removed a lot stuff from there. But...it was not meant to remove this build. I am uploading it atm again. I am so grateful that I have had opportunity to upload to the smokey01.com that I dont want to spoil it.

About PAE 3.7.2 kernel. Probably not going to do it. I just dont have enough time to do all those things I would like to.

I am atm trying to create working dpup wheezy, and the progress has been good. Soon there is time to update Upup Precise builds, when Barry Kauler announces 'woof plateau' time. Then I believe Barry uploads next Precise Puppy and I try follow with my enhancement builds. So...one person....one life...many things to do.

I used this build mostly before I changed to the Dpup Wheezy builds. I am delighted that it behaves with people.

Download link: http://www.smokey01.com/pemasu/UpupPrec ... recise372/