Fatdog64-500 final

[Billtoo]

You must reboot after installing the ati pet package. Well, you might be able to exit X, then remove the radeon module and then type xwin to restart X.

But i can't reboot nor exit X, the computer would lock up and do not save the installation of ati pet package.

I just clicked on the pet to install it and then chose "Restart X server" from the menu and that worked for me.

I just made another bootable flash drive with fatdog64 on it and did it again to be sure.

[gcmartin]

@fatdog64kudos and @kirk thanks for your efforts. Your work is greatly appreciated.

Going back to that step 3). in the instructions for creating a new ISO

....Could someone explain "why the base libraries (fd64-500.sfs) are copied to the SFS build folder AFTER the new SFSs contents are placed there?

I'm missing something here. If a SFS (which is newer than the base FD64 SFS) adds an update needed for either system boot or for proper running of the contents, won't the base "clobber" the work (libraries) done by the new SFSs? I'm sure I'm missing something here and I'm anxious to understand why the base FD64 SFS is last.

I'm just seeking knowledge.
Thanks...anyone in...advance

[mories]

Billtoo, thanks

I just clicked on the pet to install it and then chose "Restart X server" from the menu and that worked for me.

It worked for me.

kirk, thanks also

Also, make sure you run the Xorgwizard (in the setup menu) before installing the pet package.

Not necessary for me.

[kirk]

Gcmartin,


Actually the add on sfs files do not take priority over the main sfs file. If the devx sfs and the main sfs both have a file with the same name and in the same location, the file in the main sfs will be visible.


Mories,

Glad it worked for you. With my ati card I have to have a detailed xorg.conf for aticonfig to initialize.

[edoc]

I just scrolled through the 8-pages of this thread ...

I didn't see where one may change the default download folder.

We prefer to choose the default Download folder.

Is this set in Firefox and Seamonkey - or will those settings be over-written on reboot?

[kirk]

Edoc,

That's under Preferences in Firefox. But if you run Firefox as spot, which is the default, you'll only be able to save in folders that spot can write to. So ether you'll have to change your folder's permissions so that spot can write to it or run Firefox as root. To run Firefox as root open a terminal and type firefox or you can edit /usr/share/applications/Firefox.desktop and change firefox-spot to firefox.

[edoc]

OK re. changing permissions on the save folder.

On our other laptops we tend to use "/mnt/home/savestuff/downloads"

If we install Seamonkey, because we like that suite of integrated tools, does it also come with limited user access?

BTW: Are Firefox and Slypheed in Fatdog already linked so that one may click on a link in E-mail and jump to the browser, and do a Send Link in the browser and have an E-mail pop-up ... or does that all have to be set up manually?

[kirk]

Yep, Seamonkey is setup the same way. I use web based email so I really couldn't tell you if Slypheed would try to call firefox. I haven't set anything up to do that.

[panzerpuppy]

@kirk: Does the official AMD Catalyst driver installer work in FatDog64?

I mean, does the installer compile the kernel module(s) correctly? (it returns an error in Quirky)

Can you try the same in Quirky and see what's the problem?

I'd love to use the latest Catalyst 10.7 in both FatDog64 and Quirky.

[edoc]

Would it be possible to pop up a window to browse folders - then when one chooses one it prompts for a password and then runs a script to change the permissions?

This would seem to maximize flexibility for downloads and still preserve the protection of a User-level account for Internet access.

Our son needs to be able to direct a variety of downloads to different folders and may need to change where he downloads things on-the-fly (so changing permissions in-advance would be much less convenient).

I am guessing others may benefit from the same feature.

WDYT?

[kirk]

Would it be possible to pop up a window to browse folders - then when one chooses one it prompts for a password and then runs a script to change the permissions?

Might be able to add an option to the right click menu to change the owner of a folder and all of it's sub-folders to spot. I'll attach a untested pet package.

EDIT: Sorry Flash, I misread your post. I think that would require hacking firefox.

panzerpuppy,

I had to patch it to compile with 2.6.34. I think I found the patches on the Arch forums. Anyway that was with Catalyst 10.5, maybe 10.7 supports the latest kernel.


I uploaded Seamonkey-2.0.6. Also, I uploaded a Kompozer pet package a few days ago.

[panzerpuppy]

panzerpuppy,

I had to patch it to compile with 2.6.34. I think I found the patches on the Arch forums.

I heard 10.7 no longer needs patching (it has k2.6.34 and XServer 1.8 support) :

...this driver supports Linux 2.6.34/2.6.35 and Xserver 1.8 (haven't tried with 1.9)

Can you try Catalyst 10.7, see if it installs without patching and make a .PET package for Quirky?

Catalyst 10.7 has a massive 2D performance improvement over 10.5, support for OpenGL 3.3 and 4.0 and tons of bugfixes.

[fatdog64kudos]

kirk,

Tried again with partial success:

Started with a pristine Fatdog64-500 CD boot. Followed your procedure with the modification for lib64 issue in devx. Created a new fd64-500.sfs.
Created a new Fatdog64-500_extra.iso and burned the iso to a blank CD using BURNISO2CD.

The same error while booting from the CD as before. All works well up to and including copying to ram; but , then the same error happens as before.

HOWEVER, IF the "new sfs file" is available on the HD, booting from the CD FINDS it and seems to load IT successfully. I tried cc from th CLI and it says "no input files" indicating that the devx is working in this case and all is well.

By now I have burned 4 or 5 CDs which will not boot. Growing pains I suppose

At this point, the only hitch is producing a bootable CD that works. Some trick for this ?

[fatdog64kudos]

kirk and gcmartin,

Last night I used kirk's technique to create a custom sfs/iso/CD without the devx sfs, but with 4 other sfs's: audio-all-in-one, fd64-32bit-libs-3, jre1.60_amd64-3 and wine-1.2-rc5-i486-4. This was done booting from a pristine Fatdog64-500 CD and executed completely in RAM (6GB in the machine). Finally, the iso was burned using burniso2cd and verified by the same program. Rebooting from the new CD was successfull and all ran very well. The size of the newly created iso is 316 MB.

I did not copy the original sfs file from the CD to the build folder since the desire was to produce a new custom sfs containing the additional sfs files as a part of the new sfs/iso/CD themselves.

Again, it may be noted that this was accomplished completely in RAM and nothing was saved to the HD. The additional sfs files were located on a pen drive. In fact all HDs were disconnected. I feel that this is a demonstration the power and versitility of Fatdog64 and its ability to use the full compliment of RAM beyond the usual 32 bit OS limitation.

Thanks again to kirk and jamesbond and of course Barry and all who have made puppy possible

[gcmartin]

@fatdog64kudos. Thanks for your efforts. I will try those steps, as posted when I'm back next week.

P.S. It would be nice if you could post that iso you built somewhere. Its a good and valuable piece of work that has wide user desires.

[edoc]

Is there any reason to prefer this source:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... ns/fatdog/

Or this one:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... /pets/500/

for Fatdog64-500 apps?

[kirk]

panzerpuppy,

Sorry, I don't really have time to make a package for Quirky. Not really sure when I'll get around to making a new package for Fatdog.

fatdog64kudos,

I wonder if there's a bug/limitation in the init script that causes the size of the tmpfs to be sized wrong when the sfs file is that big.


Edoc,

All the pet packages will be found here:

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... /pets/500/

The root of the web site is here:

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... ns/fatdog/

and these are the folders:

broken --- A place for me and James to place experiments.
info -- Right now not much there.
iso --- This is where the iso files are located.
pets --- pet packages
sfs --- Sfs files are here
source --- The source files used to build fatdog
t2-build --- The T2 build environment used to build the base packages.
t2-packs --- All of the binary tar balls produced by T2.
web --- Web site page.

[edoc]

Awesome, thanks!

I have the Seamonkey PET for Fatdog64 and will load it.

Right now Firefox is chattering about something called Namoroki (sp?) and suggesting an update -- will Seamonkey also generate some noise when we load your version for Fatdog64?

Sure appreciate the hard work -- it is running well on the ASUS Aspire 5535 laptop (usually a problem-pc) and our son loves it!

[edoc]

REPORT: Seamonkey 2.0.6 loaded FAST!! and set up fine.

Thanks!

[fatdog64kudos]

kirk,

I was wondering about the size issue as well, except that the sfs that includes devx that does not work from the CD does work if it resides on the HD, and is found by the CD boot during the boot process and read from the HD. I will try making the sfs created with 4 extra sfs's included larger in size to allow for further testing of the size issue question.