"Yesterday, Once more" We don't have to hurry.
Posted: Fri 15 May 2009, 07:24
After posting I have found this one posted a little earlier(or I haven't noticed)
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=42037
Below is my original post.
Satisfaction from creating and achieving something "new" is great
But we don't have to hurry anything. What do we get from announcing Puppy v10? Puppy Maxima? Puppy MX?
Are we competing with other distros? Is this a commercial project?
We already have enough versions to "re-develop".
Version 2.14R (Revisited)is a good example. Good features were back ported to the version. I did hear that version 3 is slackware compatible.
Version 4 is not. SPUP is for utilizing Slackware repository. Someone is making a"new" Slackware compatible with version 4?
Going forward is important but taking care of what already have is also important. You know, you don't have to "re-invent the wheel".
I don't know the word "remodeling" is only used in the US but some of us should maintain and improve the "neo-classics", I think.
The old are bad, the new are good? Then why do we have museums?
I am an old man myself. I don't think it is bad just because it's old.
The old versions have longer testing period than the new ones. If we keep making new ones fast, people wouldn't have time to evaluate and appreciate the old.
MU's NYP02 is still in RC and TurboPup is still in Alpha. It is very good because they are the Puppy folks taking their time to check cafefully before they finally release. Also they experimenting many things.
They are not like MS getting half cooked product rush out the door and making billions of buyers as "Alpha testers".
WE DON'T HAVE TO HURRY ANYTHING. No boss is looking over your shoulder.
Keep going forward but let not forget about old one.
Let's not abandon our old ones.
If the original developer is too busy with his new creations, let others do the maintenance, preservation and re-creating.
Not too long ago, a Korean president ordered military to kill civilians in a city called Gwang Ju because of some conflict.
The incident is similiar to "Waco" incident in Texas but the Korean folks were not crazy or some kind of cult.
That incident became a movie. At the end of movie, a poor lady tells to other folks at home "Please don't forget about us"
Our old versions might say the same.
Old doesn't mean useless. I still lift heavy weight.
Even a single action classic frontier times antique revolver can kill a man. 1911 Colt .45 can shoot as good as new Berettas. AK 47 appeared in 1947. A lot earlier than M16.
But still kills. A well kept classic Corvett can rival today's shinny Corvett.
My wife is as beautiful as those days we were dating at least to me.(she keeps calling me "Grand pa" but it is ok. That's what I am.)
Not everybody needs hollow points, FMJ, Talon bullets. A plain 357 could do the job. Classic 007 supposed to carry PPK not Desert Eagle.
Let's polish the old ones. Let's give them "Yesterday once more"
They don't deserve to disappear from people's memory so quickly.
The most hurt is the original developer. He should give his own creations a longer life span. PuppyLinux is not a perishable goods rotting on the shelves.
The reason I like Puppy in the first place is that it gives longer life to my old PC. XP is OK but get infected and get slowdown soon. I had to get out of Xp and Puppy is cute, fast, stable and speed is siembre mismo.
If new one are hard on the computer specs, that's wrong to Puppy spirit.
I am talking about "Green" PC giving more life to old ones.
The world is changing. Then, someone got to give new life to old versions to keep old computers to march together with the world.
I am the oldest child in my family. But my father didn't stop loving me when he had second and third child. If newer ones are loved and older ones are neglected, it would be misery.
Old ones would be unhappy when new ones come and take all attention away from them.
Every married man has someone at home to keep. Wife. We have a longer memories than the road ahead of us.
I am not saying "stop the show and let's replay" No. not at all. I am saying not all of us have to follow like rats. We are, in reality, individuals.
Keep going while refreshing old ones. That's what I am saying.
If someone says he is renewing, rejuvenating, reshaping, recreating, rebulding old one new, I am all for it.
I also don't mean we should keep old ones too long. Puppy is only 5 years old. Too old one, yes, they got to go. I didn't say anything when my wife throw old treasures(she called "junkies")such as 2 Amiga 500s, Apple IIs, CoCo, Vic, Timex1000(ZX in UK), Commodores, 800, 130XE Ataries.
She wants to keep the house for people not for dead old monsters.
And she said "I shouldn't live in the past" Thank God she didn't rip my old photos with other girls.
Somethings gotta go but somethings gotta a stay a little longer with us.
We don't have to hurry to throw things away too soon.
John S
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=42037
Below is my original post.
Satisfaction from creating and achieving something "new" is great
But we don't have to hurry anything. What do we get from announcing Puppy v10? Puppy Maxima? Puppy MX?
Are we competing with other distros? Is this a commercial project?
We already have enough versions to "re-develop".
Version 2.14R (Revisited)is a good example. Good features were back ported to the version. I did hear that version 3 is slackware compatible.
Version 4 is not. SPUP is for utilizing Slackware repository. Someone is making a"new" Slackware compatible with version 4?
Going forward is important but taking care of what already have is also important. You know, you don't have to "re-invent the wheel".
I don't know the word "remodeling" is only used in the US but some of us should maintain and improve the "neo-classics", I think.
The old are bad, the new are good? Then why do we have museums?
I am an old man myself. I don't think it is bad just because it's old.
The old versions have longer testing period than the new ones. If we keep making new ones fast, people wouldn't have time to evaluate and appreciate the old.
MU's NYP02 is still in RC and TurboPup is still in Alpha. It is very good because they are the Puppy folks taking their time to check cafefully before they finally release. Also they experimenting many things.
They are not like MS getting half cooked product rush out the door and making billions of buyers as "Alpha testers".
WE DON'T HAVE TO HURRY ANYTHING. No boss is looking over your shoulder.
Keep going forward but let not forget about old one.
Let's not abandon our old ones.
If the original developer is too busy with his new creations, let others do the maintenance, preservation and re-creating.
Not too long ago, a Korean president ordered military to kill civilians in a city called Gwang Ju because of some conflict.
The incident is similiar to "Waco" incident in Texas but the Korean folks were not crazy or some kind of cult.
That incident became a movie. At the end of movie, a poor lady tells to other folks at home "Please don't forget about us"
Our old versions might say the same.
Old doesn't mean useless. I still lift heavy weight.
Even a single action classic frontier times antique revolver can kill a man. 1911 Colt .45 can shoot as good as new Berettas. AK 47 appeared in 1947. A lot earlier than M16.
But still kills. A well kept classic Corvett can rival today's shinny Corvett.
My wife is as beautiful as those days we were dating at least to me.(she keeps calling me "Grand pa" but it is ok. That's what I am.)
Not everybody needs hollow points, FMJ, Talon bullets. A plain 357 could do the job. Classic 007 supposed to carry PPK not Desert Eagle.
Let's polish the old ones. Let's give them "Yesterday once more"
They don't deserve to disappear from people's memory so quickly.
The most hurt is the original developer. He should give his own creations a longer life span. PuppyLinux is not a perishable goods rotting on the shelves.
The reason I like Puppy in the first place is that it gives longer life to my old PC. XP is OK but get infected and get slowdown soon. I had to get out of Xp and Puppy is cute, fast, stable and speed is siembre mismo.
If new one are hard on the computer specs, that's wrong to Puppy spirit.
I am talking about "Green" PC giving more life to old ones.
The world is changing. Then, someone got to give new life to old versions to keep old computers to march together with the world.
I am the oldest child in my family. But my father didn't stop loving me when he had second and third child. If newer ones are loved and older ones are neglected, it would be misery.
Old ones would be unhappy when new ones come and take all attention away from them.
Every married man has someone at home to keep. Wife. We have a longer memories than the road ahead of us.
I am not saying "stop the show and let's replay" No. not at all. I am saying not all of us have to follow like rats. We are, in reality, individuals.
Keep going while refreshing old ones. That's what I am saying.
If someone says he is renewing, rejuvenating, reshaping, recreating, rebulding old one new, I am all for it.
I also don't mean we should keep old ones too long. Puppy is only 5 years old. Too old one, yes, they got to go. I didn't say anything when my wife throw old treasures(she called "junkies")such as 2 Amiga 500s, Apple IIs, CoCo, Vic, Timex1000(ZX in UK), Commodores, 800, 130XE Ataries.
She wants to keep the house for people not for dead old monsters.
And she said "I shouldn't live in the past" Thank God she didn't rip my old photos with other girls.
Somethings gotta go but somethings gotta a stay a little longer with us.
We don't have to hurry to throw things away too soon.
John S