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PUPPY REVIEWS

#1 Post by metre9dmt »

G'day mates! I was looking around this forum wherein I could place the location of reviews and related topics I read on the net. Having found none (sorry I don't have time to do an extensive search, :wink: ).

To begin with, click this link

http://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/64074.html

It's a review of Puppy Linux 4.0 by Jack Germain. It shows the ease of use and power of Dingo. It also covers areas that the Puppy Linux community needs to develop.

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A Dingo review

#2 Post by metre9dmt »

Click the following link

http://www.linux.com/feature/137880

A review of Dingo by Denis Ericson

Enjoy!

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#3 Post by puppyluvr »

:D Hello,
Heres another:
http://www.penguinway.net/?p=89

:D
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Nice to hear a review (podcast 13)
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reviews can go here:
http://tmxxine.com/wik/wikka.php?wakka=PuppyDingo

and if you review 4.1 (currently in Alpha)
then place your review here to publicise your blog, wiki
or webpage etc . . .
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Using Puppy Linux in a business environment

#5 Post by metre9dmt »

Guys,

Got a link to a nice review with regards to the use of Puppy Linux in a business environment:

http://www.desktoplinux.com/articles/AT2483384065.html

Quoting the author of the article:

"Puppy Linux offers the best performance I have seen of any OS running on a given computer. Puppy Linux installs all the applications into RAM so that they run instantly. Puppy Linux has no eye candy to speak of, but for sheer performance, it is the best."


For me, as long you can use it and works as advertised, it's okay already. Though, he was showing a MacPup Dingo screen.

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fascinating

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It's fascinating to hear from Michael Barnes again:
Puppy Linux is a Linux distribution I have already praised for its compact size and speed. What amazes me about Puppy Linux is how ready it is for prime time given its small size. I have worked with compact Linux distributions that use primitive editors and very basic and non-compatible spreadsheets. Puppy Linux installs a fully functional Microsoft Word workalike called Abiword and a Microsoft Excel workalike called Gnumeric. Both of these applications are very functional and compatible. It is possible to add OpenOffice to Puppy Linux.
...
We install Puppy Linux on our least expensive devices that we sell to customers, and we use it to revive computers that would otherwise be worthless. We can use an old screen, a USB thumb drive, and Puppy Linux to create a guest computer for visitors or roaming employees to get online to use our web based mail or other web tools.
Here is an article about Puppy Linux and an inexpensive PC in 2006:
http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS9653075107.html
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puppyluvr wrote::D Hello,
Heres another:
http://www.penguinway.net/?p=89

:D

A couple of quotes from this review to make one think.

The first quote indicates the reviewer doesn't have a clue what's going on on his desktop, and the second reduces Puppy's security to being disposable. What does that make it, the BIC lighter of Linux?

....Puppy has a free memory applet on the taskbar and even with several programs running it showed that I was only using 200 megs of memory. This is even more impressive when you realize that Puppy loads the entire operating system into RAM.

....
In the event your system gets compromised you can start a fresh copy of Puppy by booting the CD with the puppy pfix=ram option. This will ignore your compromised pup_save.2fs file and you can start saving your changes to a new one. For more on why Puppy is always root and it’s security implications you can check out this Puppy forum topic on the subject.
Hopefully the reviewer isn't going to slink back, erase his review, and then accuse me of quoting him out of context.

Maybe in the sequel he'll reveal how he detects that his pup_save.2fs file got "compromised."

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metre9dmt wrote: To begin with, click this link

http://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/64074.html

It's a review of Puppy Linux 4.0 by Jack Germain. ...
This is a review I can recommend. But only for the appended readers' comments about Puppy's security issues - a subject that is strangely absent from this forum.

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security

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That is a subject usually dealt with in the debate "running as root", so you will tend to miss it when you check only "security". Here is a quote from an example section on that subject:
I'm going to get a bit philosophical here. There's a big difference between something that could plausibly happen in certain circumstances, and what actually does happen (or has happened) in the real world. I notice that a lot of people get the two confused.

As I see it, Puppy has been around long enough for there to be a body of real-world experience on the safety/danger of running as root.

I figure that, if running as root were as hazardous as we've been told, Puppy forums would be full of messages about compromised systems - far more than on, say, Ubuntu forums. And as far as I can tell, that's not happening.

So I'm quite comfortable to go on running as root.
I hope that if you have views about security, you would post under those threads or start a new one.
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A difference between Puppy Linux 2 series and 3 series

#10 Post by metre9dmt »

I got this review from Steven Rosenberg. He got problems when using the 3 series. I guess, this might be related to the linux kernel used. Please correct if I am wrong. Here's the link:

http://insidesocal.com/click/2008/08/x- ... ppy-l.html

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X crashing

#11 Post by raffy »

He can try Xvesa using the standard 3.01 ISO. If the kernel is suspect, he can use the 3.01 retro ISO that uses the same kernel as 2.13.

Another point to investigate is the amount of shared RAM for the graphics (if is shared). Increasing the size of shared RAM will allow Xorg to do its job.
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Re: security

#12 Post by otropogo »

raffy wrote:That is a subject usually dealt with in the debate "running as root", so you will tend to miss it when you check only "security". Here is a quote from an example section on that subject: ...

And a very lively debate it is too!

The most recent post I could find was from June 1, almost three months ago.
raffy wrote:I hope that if you have views about security, you would post under those threads or start a new one.
Hope away! I'm getting tired of having my threads savaged at birth and then erased.

I did do a google search of Puppy security, and found just about zip. A search of Barry's blog got exactly zip.

And I find the instructions for "intrusion protection" in the Puppy 4.0 manual incomprehensible:

For further improvement of your security you should store a checksum (a fingerprint) for all files. At regular intervals, but in any case before a backup, you examine the checksums of your files. If the checksums do not agree, the file was changed or deleted.

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#13 Post by Pizzasgood »

I just looked, and you're right. It isn't as clear as it should be. It does look like it explains the topic (haven't read it in detail) but it's not very readable.

I'll have look into getting permission to edit the manual some time. Then I could fix things like that.


Hmm... I think I might also write an automated script to do all the checking. So the user just has to run something like 'check-puppy-integrity'. It would need a way to filter out things that should change and what not. Sounds like fun.

I won't do it in the immediate future, because I have other things scheduled, and then I'm taking a break to work on a non-Puppy project I've been fiddling with. But after I get back, or if I get bored anytime until then, then I'll work on this.
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Welcome Puppy Linux 4.1

#14 Post by metre9dmt »

Dmitri Popov has just announce the availability of Puppy Linux 4.1. Here is the link:

http://www.linux-magazine.com/online/bl ... rn?blogbox

I have installed it, except for the sound, everything is working seamlessly. I still have to check the discussion forum for any solutions. For those who would like to help, I'm running PL 4.1 in ECS-D25 laptop, with a Core Solo CPU, ATI Radeon 200 xpress graphics card/chipset, and sigmatel soundcard.

Regards to all!

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Distrowatch Announcement

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Here's distrowatch's verbatim announcement of PL 4.1:

http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=05123

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2 more Puppy reviews

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Here are two more Puppy reviews --

From Free Software Magazine dated 2007-09-17 --
http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/art ... l_featured

From Desktop Linux dated 2007-10-08 --
http://www.desktoplinux.com/articles/AT7455536044.html

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Minisys Linux or Muppy

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From www.linux.com, here is Dmitri Popov's review of Muppy. It is nice to know that you can update the system using the sfs files, which was introduced in a previous incarnation of PL Community Edition. Here is the link:

http://www.linux.com/feature/150993

Enjoy.

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Puppy Linux 4.1 Retro Lauded

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Here's a link where PL 4.1 Retro was praised for its efficiency and completeness. It features a lot of screenshots.

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Lifehacker's comparison and walkthrough

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Below is the link to a comparison small Linux distributions featuring, among others, Puppy Linux:

http://lifehacker.com/5069054/battle-of ... ux-systems

Just a comment with regards to the negative points: if you save your initial choices to usb drive or hard drive, you won't have to answer the initial configuration questions. With regards to cluttered menus, it is a matter of preference. They should have seen the menu system that I have with Puppy Linux and Windows XP (very frightening! :wink: )

Here's a walkthrough of Puppy Linux 4.1:
http://lifehacker.com/software/geek-to- ... 307542.php

The walkthrough is a nice beginner's introduction to Puppy Linux.

Regards to all. By the way, it's All Saints' Day and All Souls' Day this weekend in the Philippines (November 1 and 2).

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