Slacko 5.7 - March 2014

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Billtoo · #61 Post by **Billtoo** » Wed 12 Mar 2014, 17:18

My 4gb flash drive install worked well but the save file was too small
so I made a new manual frugal install to a 2tb usb 3.0 hard drive.

video-info-glx 1.5.3 Wed 12 Mar 2014 on Slacko Puppy 5.7.0 Linux 3.10.32 i686
2.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Ivy Bridge Graphics Controller (rev 09)
oem: Intel(R) Sandybridge/Ivybridge Graphics Chipset Accelerated VGA BIOS
product: Intel(R) Sandybridge/Ivybridge Graphics Controller Hardware Version 0.0
X Server: Xorg Driver: intel
X.Org version: 1.12.4
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (507x285 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) Ivybridge Desktop x86/MMX/SSE2
OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 8.0.4
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3550 CPU @ 3.30GHz
Core 0: @1600 1: @1600 2: @1600 3: @1600 MHz

I'm giving Fluxbox 1.3.5 a try, not bad so far but still learning how
it works.

dsj · #62 Post by **dsj** » Wed 12 Mar 2014, 17:38

I have a peculiar problem with slacko 5.7 non PAE. A frugal install on my hard disk boots up perfectly well on first boot. After creating a save file & rebooting the computer, everything goes well till copying files to ram. But X takes at least 6-7 minutes to load up & the response to any mouse command is extremely slow. Precise 5.7.1 & Lupu5.2.8 have no issues & they reside in the same partition of my hard disk. The hard disk is SATA & dual boots WinXP & Puppy Linux. SDA1 is the windows partition (NTFS) & Puppy resides in SDA5 (NTFS).

This problem occurs if a 3fs savefile is created. On creating a 2fs savefile everything works fine.

Athlon 64 3200, 3 Gb RAM, ATI Chipset motherboard , video driver loaded in precise ati, In slacko radeon.

bigpup · #63 Post by **bigpup** » Wed 12 Mar 2014, 17:44

Slacko 5.7.0
Frugal install to USB flash drive
Initial boot

Grub4dos Bootloader config has several menu entries.
menu->System (2).
menu->Setup (1).

bigpup · #64 Post by **bigpup** » Wed 12 Mar 2014, 18:06

dsj wrote:I have a peculiar problem with slacko 5.7 non PAE. A frugal install on my hard disk boots up perfectly well on first boot. After creating a save file & rebooting the computer, everything goes well till copying files to ram. But X takes at least 6-7 minutes to load up & the response to any mouse command is extremely slow.

Does this still happen after several reboots?
Any other version of Slacko on computer?

I have seen bad installs do this type of thing.

Puppy resides in SDA5 (NTFS).

NTFS formats can get fragmented.
Could do a defrag, using Windows, to eliminate that possibility.

bigpup · #65 Post by **bigpup** » Wed 12 Mar 2014, 19:48

Slacko 5.7.0
Frugal install to USB flash drive
Initial boot

Puppy Package Manager

Configure package manager
Too many repositories selected in default setup.
6 selected
only 5 showing in repositories list. (max 5 can show)
Puppy-noarch-offical is not showing up in repositories list.

package types

default setting is Gui apps only.
A lot of packages do not show for selection unless you change this to any type

sszindian · #66 Post by **sszindian** » Wed 12 Mar 2014, 20:57

Google Earth

Those of you who use this program will experience an- Invalid HTTP request when you use the 'search for a location' function in Google Earth itself.

There is a 'fix' here (until a permanent solution is done.)

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=87493

I use:
Google_Earth-6.0.3.2197-luki.sfs (same version in the 5.7 PPM only in a .pet there) Tried downloading the PPM .pet but it wanted over an HOUR of my time to download w/dependencies so I opted for the .sfs version which I already had and use in several puppy's, it works very nice.

EDIT: Two Places To Get .sfs version:
http://www.smokey01.com/saluki/sfs/
http://www.datafilehost.com/d/a5a90a31

You'll 'probably' need the fix no matter the version.

>>>---Indian------>

PaulR · #67 Post by **PaulR** » Wed 12 Mar 2014, 21:13

Re my savefile problem further up this thread: I've tried the second machine with the new USB stick and there are no problems so I conclude it is not a bug.

Paul

davids45 · #68 Post by **davids45** » Wed 12 Mar 2014, 23:09

G'day 01micko,

A couple of very minor oddities with Slacko5.7 (and late 5.6.x Slackos) installed on a desktop running Frugal and Full:

After mounting an android device with the mounter (menu = MTP- mount MTP and android devices) and then unmounting it by running the package again, I immediately get the green 'safe to remove' dialog box. However, on shutting Slacko down, I see a slightly delayed shutdown with a text message about unmounting a stray mounted device, being the android phone or tablet. Both my android phone and tablet give this result.

Likewise, after mounting a Windows shared drive on another computer on my home network with Pnethood (run from the menu), and unmounting the share within pnethood before quitting pnethood, I get the same message during Slacko shutdown, this time the text message being there is a stray mounted directory on the other computer that's causing the delay.

Slacko does shut down OK but maybe takes an extra 5-10 seconds because of these 'strays'.

Occasionally (i.e. only happened a couple of times and I can't reproduce this

), my 20+ partition drive icons across the bottom of the Slacko pinboard display sequentially disappear (one after the other, starting with sdb15 and running down to sda1), taking only a second or two. I can only recover them by re-starting X. Possibly happens when running a program like ffconvert or libreoffice. Full and Frugal affected.

Otherwise, Slacko-5.7 running very well.

So thanks for your excellent work,

David S.

Billtoo · #69 Post by **Billtoo** » Thu 13 Mar 2014, 20:30

Manual frugal install to the hard drive, pc is an emachines D620
laptop.
video-info-glx 1.5.1 Thu 13 Mar 2014 on Slacko Puppy 5.7.0 Linux 3.10.32 i686
5.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS
product: RS690 01.00
X Server: Xorg Driver: radeon
X.Org version: 1.12.4
dimensions: 1280x800 pixels (338x211 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: X.Org R300 Project
OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on ATI RS690
OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 8.0.4
AMD Athlon(tm) Processor 2650e
Core 0: @1596 MHz

Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01)
Working well.

gcmartin · #70 Post by **gcmartin** » Thu 13 Mar 2014, 23:13

Wondering if any way this is related in system's behavior.

davids45 wrote:... After mounting an android device with the mounter (menu = MTP- mount MTP and android devices) and then unmounting it by running the package again, I immediately get the green 'safe to remove' dialog box. However, on shutting Slacko down, I see a ...

Understanding this, (and running Live from DVD), when the Android is plugged into the system, a pop-up occurs which is NOT the expected MTP pop-up. Further this leads to confusion as whether the POP-up is related to MTP in any way. Lastly, just wondering if what is described causes some system flag(s) to become set and are not undone upon abandoning use of the mounted system mount-points.

Question

Is this MTP issue pointing to a need to re-think how system behavior is to occur now that Androids and MTP devices are poping up all around us with content we want to transfer?

In our past, the current system's implementation was geared (rightfully so at that time) around cameras being plugged in to exchange content. Now we have many things such as MTP devices beyond what we had when it was just cameras.

Maybe its time to consider how this should all come together to ease user understanding and use.

Comments or advice for how users should approach this dilemma for Slacko users.

Note: Below pic is what I get when I plug the data cable into the USB port.

bigpup · #71 Post by **bigpup** » Fri 14 Mar 2014, 04:28

Slacko5.7.0

PPM
Puppy-slacko14 repository.
Need some Nvidia driver packages for the 3.10.32 kernel.

01micko · #72 Post by **01micko** » Fri 14 Mar 2014, 10:39

bigpup wrote:Slacko5.7.0

PPM
Puppy-slacko14 repository.
Need some Nvidia driver packages for the 3.10.32 kernel.

What does this post mean bigpup? There are a bunch of drivers and the installer *should* work (video upgrade from menu) and if not by searching PPM.

rufwoof · #73 Post by **rufwoof** » Fri 14 Mar 2014, 11:18

01micko wrote:
bigpup wrote:Slacko5.7.0

PPM
Puppy-slacko14 repository.
Need some Nvidia driver packages for the 3.10.32 kernel.
What does this post mean bigpup? There are a bunch of drivers and the installer *should* work (video upgrade from menu) and if not by searching PPM.

I'm not seeing the same as you (I'm seeing the same as bigpup (I think)). The video upgrade says something like no drivers available for my card/kernel and PPM doesn't show the same list as yours (3.10.5 being the latest IIRC). I repeated after downloading the latest PPM update with the same result.

The existing NV support seems good to me already. On a previous version of 5.7 (non PAE, I'm now running PAE), upgrading to NV drivers resulted in worse results - youtubes were grey until the screen was scrolled etc with the official NV drivers and there was bleeding of flash through the desktop background (a ln command I found somewhere resolved the flash bleed issue), but both of those issues were fine under the puppy nv version).

killapup · #74 Post by **killapup** » Fri 14 Mar 2014, 12:58

G'day all,

I've just booted the new 5.7 (without using my 5.6 savefile) and, for the first time, Slacko did not recognise my wifi. I'm very disappointed, one of the things that drew me to Slacko puppy was its ease of wifi setup.

Since starting with 5.3, Slacko has never missed a beat with my laptop's wifi. I even tried my Belkin dongle and it couldn't it either, what has changed in this latest version?

At this point, I won't be installing this one, I'll keep using 5.6 for the moment. Of course, I'll keep an eye on this forum for fixes.

I'm using the non-pae iso burned to cd on an HP Presario V2000 with 512M of RAM, puppy runs really well on this unit and never has an issue with wifi, till now. If it helps, it is an AMD Turion64 running at 1.8Ghz.

Can anyone share why this version may not be finding my wifi, thanks.

OscarTalks · #75 Post by **OscarTalks** » Fri 14 Mar 2014, 14:36

Slacko 5.7 non PAE on my nvidia FX 5200 machine and have updated the repos but confirmed I am not seeing the nvidia drivers for this kernel in Video Upgrade (just get a "nothing available" splashy) or PPM. Obviously I can see them there in ibiblio in the browser.

rufwoof · #76 Post by **rufwoof** » Fri 14 Mar 2014, 22:51

killapup wrote:G'day all,

I've just booted the new 5.7 (without using my 5.6 savefile) and, for the first time, Slacko did not recognise my wifi. I'm very disappointed, one of the things that drew me to Slacko puppy was its ease of wifi setup.

Since starting with 5.3, Slacko has never missed a beat with my laptop's wifi. I even tried my Belkin dongle and it couldn't it either, what has changed in this latest version?

At this point, I won't be installing this one, I'll keep using 5.6 for the moment. Of course, I'll keep an eye on this forum for fixes.

I'm using the non-pae iso burned to cd on an HP Presario V2000 with 512M of RAM, puppy runs really well on this unit and never has an issue with wifi, till now. If it helps, it is an AMD Turion64 running at 1.8Ghz.

Can anyone share why this version may not be finding my wifi, thanks.

Doesn't support my Belkin wireless USB either. I had to patch the kernel with the driver. This Slacko PAE 5.7 derivative includes that patch
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=92616 - might be worth a try. Note that that derivative has no inbuilt firefox (browser), but does have a file to download/install a portable firefox. It also has ROX set to use double clicks rather than single clicks.

Whilst that's a PAE version, I suspect if you open a terminal and issue a command of

cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep pae

you'll likely see a return (i.e. have a cpu pae flag and hence have a pae supporting cpu)

James C · #77 Post by **James C** » Sat 15 Mar 2014, 04:28

Manual upgrade of another frugal from 5.6.5 to 5.7...... other than needing to reset the desktop icons there were no apparent problems.

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Slacko Puppy, version 5.7

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1024x768
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): intel
Loaded modules: dbe dri dri2 extmod fb glx kbd mouse record

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1024x768 pixels (270x203 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
377 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.330 FPS
375 frames in 5.0 seconds = 74.914 FPS
376 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.175 FPS
375 frames in 5.0 seconds = 74.943 FPS
376 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.143 FPS

-Computer-
Processor : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz
Memory : 1544MB (276MB used)
Machine Type : Physical machine
Operating System : Slacko Puppy - 5.7
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Fri 14 Mar 2014 11:45:49 PM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Mesa DRI Intel(R) 865G x86/MMX/SSE2
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation

Code: Select all

# free
             total         used         free       shared      buffers
Mem:       1544856       937700       607156            0        68676
-/+ buffers:             869024       675832
Swap:      4198396            0      4198396
#

bigpup · #78 Post by **bigpup** » Sat 15 Mar 2014, 05:41

01micko wrote:
bigpup wrote:Slacko5.7.0

PPM
Puppy-slacko14 repository.
Need some Nvidia driver packages for the 3.10.32 kernel.
What does this post mean bigpup? There are a bunch of drivers and the installer *should* work (video upgrade from menu) and if not by searching PPM.

Looked in http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/

packages-puppy-slacko14-offical

This does not list any of the Nvidia drivers for kernel 3.10.32

So, PPM and probably the Video upgrade wizard, does not know they are in the puppy-slacko14 repository.

Not sure why they are in the repository, but not listed in packages-puppy-slacko14-offical

James C · #79 Post by **James C** » Sat 15 Mar 2014, 06:20

For what it's worth,after updating the PPM nothing but drivers for the older kernels here as well. And a polite message from the Video Upgrade Wizard that no drivers are available....

bigpup · #80 Post by **bigpup** » Sat 15 Mar 2014, 18:24

01micko,

Something you may want to look at.

Trying to get VPN working in Slacko 5.6
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=92572

Not sure if this is a problem also in Slacko 5.7

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