Classic Pup 2.14X -- Updated 2 series

[Dewbie]

@BongoPlayer: The 2.6.18.1 kernel that 2.14x is built with might not be compatible with your computer.

If you're looking for something that will run on a wide variety of hardware and modems with long-term support, you might want to try Wary 5.0 and/or 5.1.1: http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... ns/quirky/
Each is built with a different kernel.

[tempestuous]

Vandor 0x7d1
ProductID 0x3c7

I cannot find reference to this USB device ID anywhere. I suspect you made a typographical error; it should be:
Vendor 0x7d1
Product ID 0x3c07
If so, the updated rt73 driver I provided is definitely compatible.

Hi, install the driver in my laptop, but the device not work

Ah, are you sure you installed the driver?
The driver dotpet I provided, like all dotpets, is installed simply by single-clicking it in the ROX file browser. Nothing more.
Now you just need to reboot, and the DWA-110 device should be automatically detected, and the new rt73 driver will automatically load.
When you run the Network Wizard you should then see a new network interface, which you set up the wifi connection details for.

If this new interface fails to be created, or it's there and fails to work, it's possible that you have previously attempted to manually load a different driver, or worse, use a Windows driver with ndiswrapper. In such cases, there will a conflict and the device won't work. The best thing to do is delete your pupsave file, and do a clean boot to Puppy 214X. Then install the updated rt73 driver again.

[eternal-sunshine]

I would say off the top of my head its a kernel issue, 2.14X uses an older kernel, hmmm have you tried any of the 2 series like 2.17, a few pages back there was a few post about updating the same kernel version number with a newer sfs from 4 series, likely the newer kernel 2.6.18.8 from woof series 2 could backport the sata modules. I have a few sata desktop drives and they are found by 2.14X. But I don't have any laptops that have sata drives. So it would be impossible to test. This weekend when I'm not working I'll give it a shot and see.
ttuuxxx

Hi ttuuxxx
I wondered if you managed to have a look at this at the weekend and came to any conclusions.
Thanks

[clarf]

Hi ttuuxxx,

Is there hope to have a new metacity package with composite manager added for the next 214X-Top version?.

Maybe something like the one you posted here for Lucid:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... &start=114

. It looks nice.

Thank you
clarf

[BongoPlayer]

@BongoPlayer: The 2.6.18.1 kernel that 2.14x is built with might not be compatible with your computer.

If you're looking for something that will run on a wide variety of hardware and modems with long-term support, you might want to try Wary 5.0 and/or 5.1.1: http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... ns/quirky/
Each is built with a different kernel.

Thanks Dewbie.

jp

[Foroweb]

Vandor 0x7d1
ProductID 0x3c7

I cannot find reference to this USB device ID anywhere. I suspect you made a typographical error; it should be:
Vendor 0x7d1
Product ID 0x3c07
If so, the updated rt73 driver I provided is definitely compatible.

Hey, you are right again, I have a typographical error, the correct ProductID is 0x3c07, thank you very much for your help. I will try to run a new puppy sesion and install the driver.

[ttuuxxx]

Hello ttuuxxx,
I tried using pup 2.17 and it worked, that is it recognised my sata drive in the laptop. As I said all other pups I have tried based on 412, 431, 520 recognise the laptop drive except your 214X. It's a real shame as I so dearly wanted to use 214X in this machine. Is there anything that can be done?
Thank you.

Hello !
Pup217.1 had K2.6.21.5, while pup214[R|X] has K2.6.18.1. I just checked (with my less knowledgeable tinkering mind ) the kernel config for K2.6.18.1 and couldn't see any obvious module needed for SATA being excluded from pup214's kernel (save for backports), libpata (sata-pata) is enabled and all the (at the time) available sata drivers are enabled.

I dunno, perhaps it'd be possible to dump the K2.6.21.5 (including the initrd modules) onto 214X .

FWIW & Cheers /
MHHP

Lol I tried that one before, It sort of worked, but wasn't stable enough, really there must be a better work around for it.
hmmm maybe he open a terminal in 2.14X and type lsmod
and then do it in 2.17 and see which module isn't loading
oh ya 3 most post and I'll hit 10,000. wow took a few years I think everyone who hits 10,000 post on here should get a free puppy cd in mail
ttuuxxx

[ttuuxxx]

Hi ttuuxxx,

Is there hope to have a new metacity package with composite manager added for the next 214X-Top version?.

Maybe something like the one you posted here for Lucid:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... &start=114

. It looks nice.

Thank you
clarf

Hi clarf
I'll try to compile it but I'm not too sure if composites will work on 2.14X, being that it uses the older Xorg, but hey I'll give it a shot

ps 2 more post 10,000
ttuuxxx

[ttuuxxx]

well since this is my #1 thread I like to part in, I made myself a award for 10,000 post, I've been eying it for the past 6 months now and well here ya go, and its been a great Privilege building/fixing puppy related things and basically getting to know a great bunch of people, Thanks for your years of support I couldn't of done it without you guys.
ttuuxxx

[James C]

Congrats on making it to 10,000 posts ................

[Aitch]

....I made myself a award for 10,000 post...

Nice one, ttuuxxx



A VERY well deserved award!

Thanks for all you've done/achieved

....and thanks for hanging in there through the hard times

Aitch

[nancy reagan]

Congrats on making it to 10,000 posts ................

Thanks and up to your 100.000 th ?

[MinHundHettePerro]

Congrats on making it to 10,000 posts ................

Thanks and up to your 100.000 th ?

Nah, nance, let's celebrate him on a linear scale, next time at 20k . Your logarithmic step will only set his post-rate to go off exponentially .

Happy 10k, ttuuxxx !!!!

Cheers /
MHHP

[eternal-sunshine]

ttuuxxx , MHHP and others:

MinHundHettePerro wrote:
eternal-sunshine wrote:
Hello ttuuxxx,
I tried using pup 2.17 and it worked, that is it recognised my sata drive in the laptop. As I said all other pups I have tried based on 412, 431, 520 recognise the laptop drive except your 214X. It's a real shame as I so dearly wanted to use 214X in this machine. Is there anything that can be done?
Thank you.
Hello !
Pup217.1 had K2.6.21.5, while pup214[R|X] has K2.6.18.1. I just checked (with my less knowledgeable tinkering mind ) the kernel config for K2.6.18.1 and couldn't see any obvious module needed for SATA being excluded from pup214's kernel (save for backports), libpata (sata-pata) is enabled and all the (at the time) available sata drivers are enabled.

I dunno, perhaps it'd be possible to dump the K2.6.21.5 (including the initrd modules) onto 214X .

FWIW & Cheers /
MHHP


Lol I tried that one before, It sort of worked, but wasn't stable enough, really there must be a better work around for it.
hmmm maybe he open a terminal in 2.14X and type lsmod
and then do it in 2.17 and see which module isn't loading
oh ya 3 most post and I'll hit 10,000. wow took a few years I think everyone who hits 10,000 post on here should get a free puppy cd in mail
ttuuxxx

Not really sure who this is aimed at but I see ttuuxxx says

maybe he open a terminal in 2.14X and type lsmod
and then do it in 2.17 and see which module isn't loading

Well if I am "he" then as I wrote above I can't try that as 214X just wont load at all.
I appreciate this is not the top laptop in the World but there are loads of them in the UK and who knows elsewhere. And it's just with 214X not 217, 412, 431, 520, other linux distros etc etc that I have this issue. Which is such a shame.

I am willing to help all I can to sort this problem out but I can't do what I can't do if it wont even recognise my sata drives.

I do appreciate that this is all a volunteers' project but if I am wasting my time please just say so as I note that ttuuxx has many irons in the fire and he posts less and less here. Perhaps 214X has seen its time?

But hopefully not.

[ttuuxxx]

I do appreciate that this is all a volunteers' project but if I am wasting my time please just say so as I note that ttuuxx has many irons in the fire and he posts less and less here. Perhaps 214X has seen its time?

But hopefully not.

No it hasn't reached near its end, not even close, I plan on keeping this puppy version for a few more years, maybe 3-5.
I just venture off a bit and help other puppy versions out and then come back again.
I'm still trying to figure it out.
ttuuxxx

[James C]

I would say off the top of my head its a kernel issue, 2.14X uses an older kernel, hmmm have you tried any of the 2 series like 2.17, a few pages back there was a few post about updating the same kernel version number with a newer sfs from 4 series, likely the newer kernel 2.6.18.8 from woof series 2 could backport the sata modules. I have a few sata desktop drives and they are found by 2.14X. But I don't have any laptops that have sata drives. So it would be impossible to test. This weekend when I'm not working I'll give it a shot and see.
ttuuxxx

FWIW,I just booted 214x Top6 in my Windows 7/PCLOS/Lucid 520 desktop with SATA drives and everything is detected here as well.

[tater]

Hi ttuuxxx,

I tried running 214x on my old p4 1.7 box, but my nvidia gforce2 gts locks up on me very shortly after I get a desktop. I have the same problem with most all the puppies with this card. I got wary 5 going by having the 71.86.14 driver ready to install immediately upon the desktop loading up, otherwise everything locks up tight and am forced to do a hard reset. Same story with this nvidia card on all the puppies I've tried thus far. With the driver it's rock solid, stable.

I'll have to wait for the devX for 214x to become available and see if I can compile the driver. I do want to learn how to do that for sure. Or maybe you or someone could point me to the .pet already compiled for this kernel version?

I'd be much obliged for a point in the right direction.

I like what I've been able to see in 214x. It seems quite fast!

Peace

[tempestuous]

MU provided an automated installer for the 3D nVidia vendor driver, compatible with Puppy versions 2.12-2.16 back in late 2006 -
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=13114
This includes an older version of the nVidia driver, but it should be fine for a GeForce2.

[tater]

MU provided an automated installer for the 3D nVidia vendor driver, compatible with Puppy versions 2.12-2.16 back in late 2006 -
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=13114
This includes an older version of the nVidia driver, but it should be fine for a GeForce2.

Thanks tempestuous, I'll give that a try.

[eternal-sunshine]

ttuuxxx wrote

I'm still trying to figure it out.
ttuuxxx

Thanks for that. Appreciated.

James C wrote

FWIW,I just booted 214x Top6 in my Windows 7/PCLOS/Lucid 520 desktop with SATA drives and everything is detected here as well.

It also works okay in my other rig with sata drives. It's just this laptop where I am having problems.
As I said before all other linuxs including puppy 217, 412, 431, 520 recognise the sata drive except 214X. So my logic says it has to be something peculiar to how 214X is built.