Puppy Gamers Unite!
All right, Mark (and anyone else reading).
I downloaded and settup the development sfs.
I ran the ati .run driver from their site, very current.
I disabled aiglx.
I changed the library in /usr/X11R7/lib to the libGL with the Mesa distinction from the other thread that you did/mentioned.
I rmmod fglrx.
lsmod shows fglrx.
Oh, I rebooted in between each of these steps.
And now I got the DRI won't enable error in my Xorg.0.log! What @#$@?
Attached it again...early in the thread I show that I got rid of that error, but didn't say how and for the life of me can't remember.
Any idea how to get DRI to enable?
I downloaded and settup the development sfs.
I ran the ati .run driver from their site, very current.
I disabled aiglx.
I changed the library in /usr/X11R7/lib to the libGL with the Mesa distinction from the other thread that you did/mentioned.
I rmmod fglrx.
lsmod shows fglrx.
Oh, I rebooted in between each of these steps.
And now I got the DRI won't enable error in my Xorg.0.log! What @#$@?
Attached it again...early in the thread I show that I got rid of that error, but didn't say how and for the life of me can't remember.
Any idea how to get DRI to enable?
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MU (and anyone else):
Is this significant? Why aren't the radeon and dri modules listed in lsmod? They should be right? I'm attaching it zipped...
I had run rmmod radeon and rmmod dri and it says neither one exists.
Is this significant? Why aren't the radeon and dri modules listed in lsmod? They should be right? I'm attaching it zipped...
I had run rmmod radeon and rmmod dri and it says neither one exists.
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Still here, still trying to get it to work. I think it is just 'cause I'm so cheap and won't go out and buy an Invidia card...maybe my frugality will lead to an answer and a good gaming system.
Here is a site for the DRI users guide that I have been going through. Anyone (MU) see anything that I might have missed? I've checked out bus mastering and a few other options...
What about using the Generic drivers rather than the ATI driver? Do I have any chance at that working? How can I give that a shot now that I've done all this with ATI driver?
Also, noticed Envy here at this site, but also this thread in Puppy forums talking about how they couldn't get it to go. I encountered similar problems messing with it last night, but wondered if anyone has had luck with Envy on Puppy.
As always, any input on this is appreciated...
Attached is the latest Xorg.0.log and /etc/X11/xorg.conf...there is the DRI error on Xorg log, so maybe someone else can figure out how I can fix that...
Here is a site for the DRI users guide that I have been going through. Anyone (MU) see anything that I might have missed? I've checked out bus mastering and a few other options...
What about using the Generic drivers rather than the ATI driver? Do I have any chance at that working? How can I give that a shot now that I've done all this with ATI driver?
Also, noticed Envy here at this site, but also this thread in Puppy forums talking about how they couldn't get it to go. I encountered similar problems messing with it last night, but wondered if anyone has had luck with Envy on Puppy.
As always, any input on this is appreciated...
Attached is the latest Xorg.0.log and /etc/X11/xorg.conf...there is the DRI error on Xorg log, so maybe someone else can figure out how I can fix that...
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create a second savefile.What about using the Generic drivers rather than the ATI driver? Do I have any chance at that working? How can I give that a shot now that I've done all this with ATI driver?
msy_save-DUMMY.sfs
It can be an empty textfile.
If you reboot, you get a menu, to choose one of the two savefiles, or boot to Ram.
Choose Ram here.
When Puppy started, shut down again, now you are offered to create a valid savefile.
Use a unique name here like "test2".
On reboot, you now can choose your old one, or this new one for testing.
Mark
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...man, you're like superman or Puppy Ninja or something...great advice.MU wrote: On reboot, you now can choose your old one, or this new one for testing.
Mark
Would the process then simply be activation of the correct modules, using radeon and drm and blacklisting fgrlx? Or is there a more extensive process? Know any good thread on that?
both savefiles are 100% independent.
So the new one starts without fglrx.
it should use in xorg.conf
load "dri"
load "glx"
driver "ati"
by default, these are the settings for the free Xorgdriver.
Supported cards then have 3D accelleration enabled (immedeatly in "Muppy-Standard/Live" , or when you added addons.sfs in the bootmanager, if you use the Mini).
Mark
So the new one starts without fglrx.
it should use in xorg.conf
load "dri"
load "glx"
driver "ati"
by default, these are the settings for the free Xorgdriver.
Supported cards then have 3D accelleration enabled (immedeatly in "Muppy-Standard/Live" , or when you added addons.sfs in the bootmanager, if you use the Mini).
Mark
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Hmmm...so basically it should work right away or not at all. Gotcha.MU wrote:both savefiles are 100% independent.
So the new one starts without fglrx.
it should use in xorg.conf
load "dri"
load "glx"
driver "ati"
by default, these are the settings for the free Xorgdriver.
Supported cards then have 3D accelleration enabled (immedeatly in "Muppy-Standard/Live" , or when you added addons.sfs in the bootmanager, if you use the Mini).
Mark
Ok, I'll try it tonight, hopefully, and post back.
All right, the radeon/drm modules are in lsmod.
Oh, I created the "test" install without a hitch and we are now using the generic drivers they are at least a little quicker (now at about 24 fps rather than 22).
I have no errors in Xorg.0.log since I disabled aiglx.
Still no DRI, though.
I have attached a zip file with xorg.conf, Xorg.0.log and xerrs.log just for fun.
Please help get DRI activated!
Oh, I created the "test" install without a hitch and we are now using the generic drivers they are at least a little quicker (now at about 24 fps rather than 22).
I have no errors in Xorg.0.log since I disabled aiglx.
Still no DRI, though.
I have attached a zip file with xorg.conf, Xorg.0.log and xerrs.log just for fun.
Please help get DRI activated!
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the xorg.conf is wrong.
Delete (line 26):
Instead, replace (line 133):
with:
or with:
It should not matter, if you use ati or radeon.
Mark
Delete (line 26):
Code: Select all
Load "drm"
Load "radeon"
Code: Select all
Driver "vesa" #card0driver
Code: Select all
Driver "ati" #card0driver
Code: Select all
Driver "radeon" #card0driver
Mark
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All right, got rid of those first two lines.
Then I changed "vesa" to "radeon" and rebooted.
X failed. i ran xorgwizard, X started, but /etc/X11/xorg.conf was rewritten.
I changed "vesa" to "ati" and rebooted.
X failed. I ran xorgconfig (not xorgwizard) and set everything up, using the generic ATI Radeon driver (my specific card was not listed...recomend one to select?). Rebooted.
X failed. Typed in xwin, no go. xorgwizard brought it back up.
So, it looks like I just need to get the generic driver configured. Suggestions?
Then I changed "vesa" to "radeon" and rebooted.
X failed. i ran xorgwizard, X started, but /etc/X11/xorg.conf was rewritten.
I changed "vesa" to "ati" and rebooted.
X failed. I ran xorgconfig (not xorgwizard) and set everything up, using the generic ATI Radeon driver (my specific card was not listed...recomend one to select?). Rebooted.
X failed. Typed in xwin, no go. xorgwizard brought it back up.
So, it looks like I just need to get the generic driver configured. Suggestions?
All right, I've got news: someone has donated an nVidia card to the 'cause.
All I could figure out was that it was an MSI card with an nVidia chipset. Oh, and it's a pci express card, not AGP.
I don't know anything about it other than that...besides just looking on the card (couldn't find any marking to indicate) how can I find out which model card it is? Does that matter when searching for this driver?
I tried the "nv" generic driver but no 3d (even though it's already faster than that #$%#$% ATI card!).
Is this threadthe one I should look at for the nVidia driver? Recomendations?
All I could figure out was that it was an MSI card with an nVidia chipset. Oh, and it's a pci express card, not AGP.
I don't know anything about it other than that...besides just looking on the card (couldn't find any marking to indicate) how can I find out which model card it is? Does that matter when searching for this driver?
I tried the "nv" generic driver but no 3d (even though it's already faster than that #$%#$% ATI card!).
Is this threadthe one I should look at for the nVidia driver? Recomendations?
In muppy, the nvidia driver is included.
It should pop up, when it detects the nv driver, and offer you to install the propriatary ones from Nvidia.
This was broken before Muppy 0083F, if you have an older Muppy (like 0083E), I can search the bugfix.
It works with the Nvidia 6800.
I used this pet to integrate it in Muppy:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=22204
Did you not get the message from the Nvidia-Installer?
What version of Puppy do you use at moment?
Mark
It should pop up, when it detects the nv driver, and offer you to install the propriatary ones from Nvidia.
This was broken before Muppy 0083F, if you have an older Muppy (like 0083E), I can search the bugfix.
It works with the Nvidia 6800.
I used this pet to integrate it in Muppy:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=22204
Did you not get the message from the Nvidia-Installer?
What version of Puppy do you use at moment?
Mark
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...thanks, MU, but I installed something already...hope I didn't jack it...oh, I'm using the version that you mentioned at the beginning of this adventure...
The installer didn't say anything, but it did when i installed this pet file from here...I used the 100 one...
However, I ran 3dcc and it said to install opengl...I installed xorg_opengl-7.0 and it says I still need to install opengl...did I screw it up?
Edit: I have this now (see attachment) but when i click on opengl information, X completely crashes! Such fun! Is there a version of opengl that I need to install? It looks like this is the correct nvidia driver, I think...
The installer didn't say anything, but it did when i installed this pet file from here...I used the 100 one...
However, I ran 3dcc and it said to install opengl...I installed xorg_opengl-7.0 and it says I still need to install opengl...did I screw it up?
Edit: I have this now (see attachment) but when i click on opengl information, X completely crashes! Such fun! Is there a version of opengl that I need to install? It looks like this is the correct nvidia driver, I think...
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Gotcha...took care of it.MU wrote:if you installed xorg-opengl after the nvidia-driver, you broke Nvidias Opengl.
You need to install the Nvidia.pet again.
And ignore the message from 3DCC, with nvidia everything is different...
Mark
Now the video card works!! Let the games begin!
Ok, we got the quake/doom single person shooters...look good! Now I need to add some other good games on there...of course, I'll have to do it when my kids aren't using it...I've already been kicked off for a little while since they found out the card is working...I'm posting this using the Puppy laptop...
I'll post back with more successful game updates...
MU: you rock! Thank you so much for this much!
MU and everyone else: post your game suggestions and overall suggestions for this system...thanks!
All right, tremulous installed like a champ...downloaded the linux run program, right clicked it in Rox and selected permissions and set it to be an executable and installed great! The oldest boy is running through the game right now...here is a screenshot from their website...
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Here's another one for you gaming hacks out there: gave Shaiya a shot.
One would have to troll around on forums such as this and it might be necessary to look in areas such as this to get Shaiya to work on linux, one would pre-suppose...not saying I would do hacks such as this, 'cause I don't know if one is allowed to do such things.
I was however, through various means, able to get Shaiya to at least start up in Puppy...however, X crashes soon after that....I bet it is something in my X configuration regarding wine...anyone have any ideas?
Oh, and does anyone have any ideas on games that are similar to this? It seems that MU has provided quite a few 1st person shooters in this version (thanks again) but something in the Shaiya genre would be great.
Any ideas on this?
*Edit: here is a link with more info and some dll files that may be needed to run this game...I'll be trying that soon and posting back.
One would have to troll around on forums such as this and it might be necessary to look in areas such as this to get Shaiya to work on linux, one would pre-suppose...not saying I would do hacks such as this, 'cause I don't know if one is allowed to do such things.
I was however, through various means, able to get Shaiya to at least start up in Puppy...however, X crashes soon after that....I bet it is something in my X configuration regarding wine...anyone have any ideas?
Oh, and does anyone have any ideas on games that are similar to this? It seems that MU has provided quite a few 1st person shooters in this version (thanks again) but something in the Shaiya genre would be great.
Any ideas on this?
*Edit: here is a link with more info and some dll files that may be needed to run this game...I'll be trying that soon and posting back.