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Posted: Wed 10 Apr 2013, 14:21
by gulk
Yeah, those are the instructions I used to build wine with proper patches from scratch, but without luck. I must be missing something.

Posted: Wed 10 Apr 2013, 15:20
by gulk
nooby wrote: I am not a native user of English so easy to miss on grammar things :)
I ain't native either, so my syntax might just be off ;)
nooby wrote:Just me trying to get it. Do you both have a symlink
pointing to the .mozilla and then a real .mozilla both in root

Seems odd to me I trust it is me not able to read you text
Well, basically I replaced the original location of .mozilla with a symlink to wherever it is convenient for me to have it.
For example, .mozilla is originally in /root, and I would like to have it in /mnt/sda4
1) Move the .mozilla to the location of your choice

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cd ~
mv ./mozilla /mnt/sda4
2) Create the symlink

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ln -s /mnt/sda4/.mozilla .mozilla
Hopes it helps alleviating any confusion you had
gulk

Posted: Thu 11 Apr 2013, 01:03
by 01micko
Hello nooby

Just for your information :wink:

From the release notes
The recommmend method to update Firefox and to add SeaMonkey to Slacko is to use the Updates Manager from the Setup menu. If you have already updated it is recommended to remove the older Firefox or Seamonkey package before you upgrade. This helps preserve savefile space.
This is because Firefox is a compiled (by Pat Volkerding, Slackware maintainer) version with official branding used with permission of Mozilla. Compiled versions do not update automatically in line with official versions (most likely built on Ubuntu or possibly Fedora).

It is a bad idea to use the same .mozilla folder as lupu. this is for compatibility reasons.

What gulk suggests is correct, however you could add to that giving it a unique name so you don't accidentally mix things up.

Maybe something like this (not tested)

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cd ~
mv ./mozilla /mnt/sda4/mozilla-slacko
Or you could use /mnt/home instead of gulk's /mnt/sda4, but make sure Firefox is not running.

Then link it back.

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ln -s /mnt/sda4/mozilla-slacko .mozilla
If you are worried about bookmarks and settings, use the Firefox Sync feature. It also syncs add ons, I use it between windows, android and various linux without issue.

HTH

about terminal 256 color support

Posted: Thu 11 Apr 2013, 06:31
by chrisyan
hi, do you know how to get full 256 color support for urxvt? I managed to do it on precise 5.4.3, but no luck on slacko so far, i have terminfo file ready, i have tried rxvt-unicode-256color and xterm-256color, neither works except that when i input 'tput colors' it does give the number 256, but not really capable of showing all the colors.

i've also check the settings in .Xdefaults and ncurses package already installed, no idea why the color support not working?

Posted: Wed 17 Apr 2013, 12:39
by chrisyan
does anyone know how to solve 256 color problem? been waited days but 01micko seems to be offline all the time

Posted: Fri 19 Apr 2013, 08:37
by 01micko
chrisyan

The rxvt-unicode package in Slacko is from stock woof and only supports 88 colours. If you wish for 256 colour support then the source needs to be patched and recompiled. I don't have time for much lately so it may be worth your while to post a request in the packages requests section. Maybe someone will package it for you.

Posted: Fri 19 Apr 2013, 09:03
by Iguleder
From my experience, building it with 256-colors support is a bad idea, for two reasons:
- "rxvt-unicode-256color" is too long and pretty uncommon. Some applications (most notably, GNU Screen) assume the terminal type is shorter or they simply won't run when they face this weird terminal. (By the way, you'll need the terminfo files installed)
- The benefit is very small - most applications work just fine with 88 or even 8 colors.

If you wish to do this anyway, just run ./configure with "--enable-256colors" or whatever it was. If you want to use GNU Screen, apply the patch here and build it, too.

Posted: Thu 02 May 2013, 02:46
by futwerk
new background.

Posted: Fri 03 May 2013, 18:54
by anikin
Where does exactly this libstartup-notification-1.so.0 reside in Slacko? I need to place it to the same location in ThinSlacko.

Thank you in advance.

edit:
Never mind, this has been sorted out.

Posted: Sat 18 May 2013, 20:02
by playdayz
After using Slacko 5.5 for several weeks steadily.

1. To get LibreOffice from sfs-installer in menu to open as fast as Abiword, as fast as everything else in Slacko use Quickstart. It costs 20MB RAM, but for comparison a browser playing media can use 400MB. Pet to come--it ships with the current LibreOffice 4.0.3, but it does not work in Puppies because it adds "qstart.desktop" to /root/Startup, and Rox/Puppy does not startup desktop files, at least for me. No need for a pet: make a file named /root/Startup/qstart, give it permissions. In that file put

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#!/bin/sh
exec libreoffice4.0 --quickstart --nologo --nodefault
2. Firefox has been flaky 2 or 3 times since I replaced it with the updatable version, so I am staying with the Slacko/Slackware version 19.0 instead of the current 21.0; however, Mozilla says that not updating is a security risk (in Edit/Preferences/Advanced//Update)-. (Actually I am staying only with programs from PPM--I used to think anything with a deb extension should be workable in Puppy but I have had too much trouble so I am staying with packages for the version I am using, Slacko, which already has a *very* strong selection. Hey Micko, ever heard of Pinta? :wink: ) <Add: I see a slkbld, does that help? http://slackbuilds.org/repository/14.0/graphics/pinta/

<Add: Is it still possible to compile Firefox in Puppy? That would be the ideal but more work.>

3. I used to think Chrome was worth the trouble for the latest version of flashplayer which is built in, but no longer--it is flaky with mlb.com which everything else in my Slacko plays well. By the way, ubuntu recommends using the latest 11.2 version of fllashplayer, for what that's worth--there is a menu item in Slacko to get (that) flashplayer. Actually i read at Adobe that they are still fixing security vulnerabilities in 11.2 Linux--no need to take ubuntu's word for it.

So, no Chrome, but Chromium 25 from PPM runs well, not flaky, opens as fast as the built-in Firefox, renders fast, uses system flashplayer, doesn't update though.

Edit: Forgot to add, Frisbee reconnects after sleep on laptop, SNS does not reconnect. Vattery works for battery--the default doesn't.

All in all, stable, strong, capable, fast and fun enough to be the lead choice on my all-Linux work laptop.

Pidgin en Slacko 5.5

Posted: Thu 06 Jun 2013, 02:29
by sancxjo
Hello!

Tried to install Pidgin, but no libraries on which it depends. Maybe there is another method SFS or PET?
I am not a programmer and I can not do myself. :(

thin and opera

Posted: Thu 06 Jun 2013, 07:23
by Volhout
Dear 01Micko,

On my nebook I run puppy from USB (frugal). I am very happy with current Slacko 5.3.3. I use SFS on the fly for large programs like libre office. Reason is that I do not "sleep" the netbook, but always turn off. And booting from USB (it actually is a SD card via an internal USB port) takes time.

OK, now to the question:
If I would upgrade to 5.5, and would like to run Opera (a stable version), should I use ThinSlacko, or do you suggest to work with Slacko. Opera is a blessing in Netherlands (Opera proxy in "opera turbo"), good on netbooks (occupies little screen area, and leaves much room for web info), has build in mail, and is relatively fast, though not as fast as Chromium.
I am looking for a total image that is not to big (USB load) and a compressions that is relatively efficient (rel slow ATOM processor).

Look forward to your suggestion.

Volhout

Stable Opera from Opera

Posted: Fri 07 Jun 2013, 06:36
by mikeslr
Hi Volhout,

01micko may know, but I have no idea why people build opera or firefox pets. I just download them from opera or mozilla respectively, unpack the tgz or br2 which creates a directory, move the directory where I want --usually mnt/home, but on Pups installed to USB-Keys recently /opt-- and use the technique discussed here, http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=66237 to create a menu listing. But I also usually add it to jwm' taskbar or fbpanel or a panel on lxde or xfce.
Currently, I run Opera from mn/thome on Slacko 5.5 Final. Version 12 but I've just been too busy to upgrade to 12.15 as it isn't really an upgrade but a new, substitute installation. I ran the same version from a USB-Key installation of Slacko 5.3. I've never had a problem running the "official" opera in any Pup.
With Opera run from a folder --whether on /mnt/home or /opt it's easy to install it to another Pup. Just copy the entire folder and follow the referred to instructions to add it to a menu. Copying the folder means you retain your bookmarks and settings as Opera is entirely self-contained within that folder. Since I use Opera in all my Pups, I created a pet just of the 3 files need to create a menu entry so I don't have to do it manually each time. The 3 files are (1) a script in /root/my-applications/bin to "call" opera; (2) an opera png in /usr/share/pixmaps and (3) a desktop file in /usr/share/applications.

mikesLr

Posted: Mon 01 Jul 2013, 15:27
by OscarTalks
I have uploaded a TEST build of the new Linphone 3.6.1 here:-

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=87080

Unlike the previous 3.5.2 release, this one does compile against Slacko's ffmpeg although you may still see warnings in console about "swscale - data not aligned which may slow things down" or something like that. The .pet is under 2MB so worth a look. Take the usual precautions. Reports and comments welcome.

Later:-
Version 3.6.1 uses a different system for the video and I am finding that this does not not work on all hardware. If video is important to you and 3.6.1 does not work, try my new "private ffmpeg transplant" build of Linphone 3.5.2 in the first post of this thread here:-

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=79803

Missing Serpent and Twofish kernel modules + TrueCrypt.

Posted: Thu 04 Jul 2013, 10:40
by SFR
Being tired of very poor performance of reading/writing from/to TrueCrypt volumes I compiled missing Serpent and Twofish kernel modules (I'm not using the default AES).
The resulting performance boost is really substantial!

Without kernel services:

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# dd if=/dev/zero of=testfile bs=1M count=1024
1024+0 records in
1024+0 records out
1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB) copied, 122.577 s, 8.8 MB/s
# 
With kernel services:

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# dd if=/dev/zero of=testfile bs=1M count=1024
1024+0 records in
1024+0 records out
1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB) copied, 44.064 s, 24.4 MB/s
# 
In case if anyone interested, a quick 'how-to':
1. Install attached xts-3.4.17.pet (for Slacko-5.5-PAE with k3.4.17) or xts-3.2.33.pet (for Slacko-5.5-4g with k3.2.33); they contain:
- gf128mul.ko
- serpent_generic.ko (k3.4.17) or serpent.ko (k3.2.33)
- twofish_common.ko
- twofish_generic.ko
- xts.ko
2. Install lvm2-2.02.96-i486-4.txz through PPM (or direct link)
3. In TrueCrypt settings uncheck 'System Integration -> Do not use kernel cryptographic modules' and (re)mount a volume.

Apart from better performance, this also makes possible to create hidden and cascade-encrypted volumes.

The only glitch I have noticed is that 'pup_event_frontend_d' creates a desktop icon (DM-0), which can be accessed only once and then becomes useless, so best to remove it right after mounting TC volume.

Greetings!

Re: Missing Serpent and Twofish kernel modules + TrueCrypt.

Posted: Thu 04 Jul 2013, 12:32
by sc0ttman
SFR wrote:Being tired of very poor performance of reading/writing from/to TrueCrypt volumes I compiled missing Serpent and Twofish kernel modules (I'm not using the default AES).
The resulting performance boost is really substantial!
sorry to post here, but a quick yes or no should be ok... Can this stuff be compiled for older kernels? What's the requirements?

Posted: Thu 04 Jul 2013, 13:15
by SFR
Well, I suppose so.
Taking as an example k2.6.25.16 it seems to have the same stuff in dotconfig:
# CONFIG_CRYPTO_XTS is not set
...
# CONFIG_CRYPTO_SERPENT is not set
...
# CONFIG_CRYPTO_TWOFISH is not set
# CONFIG_CRYPTO_TWOFISH_586 is not set
Tried to give it a test shot (in Slacko), but got some error immediately:
# make clean
Makefile:1523: *** mixed implicit and normal rules. Stop.

...perhaps older kernels ought to be compiled with older devx..?

Another question is if there's also appropriate lvm2 package:
http://pkgs.org/download/lvm2

Anyway, won't hurt to try, will it? :wink:

Greetings!

Cannot write on NTFS (windows partition)

Posted: Tue 13 Aug 2013, 07:20
by Pelo
Quote :
I can confirm the problem in Slacko 5402 when copying to an NTFS-formatted /mnt/home. And I can confirm that putting the old ntfs-3g 2010.1.16 in the init fixes it.

And how do you do ?

Windows ntfs partition read-only

Posted: Tue 13 Aug 2013, 08:14
by Pelo
install from PPM the package ntfs-3g 2012
Running fine now !

audacious added to my fat Slacko 5.5

Posted: Tue 19 Jul 2016, 05:51
by Pelo
audacious added to my fat Slacko 5.5 (483.9 MB (483,876,864 bytes))
Why to use older Versions of Slacko than 6.3.0 ? Less bugs ! and ISO are Slim, Much Slimmer ! 2016, Puppy developers provide libs which will be never used for our computers.. and by thesmselves, not even tested (3D has one application : Bino)
I am running Fatslacko 5.3.3 now, in france we prefer old wines. Puppies are likes wines, the older, the better... a good Puppy needs time, a lot of time. amended by users by progressive improvments. If no user, bad Puppy ! :twisted: Fatslacko 5.3.3 trashed immediatly, it's a Slacko for people working at home, typing letters, making accounts, and slideshows for employees. I retired from working three years ago, then I began playing puppy. I keep my fatSlacko 5.5, fat for my amusement, not for the boss productivity !