Bionicpup64 8.0 CE
sensor - modules not loading problem
G'day,
I'm not sure if this new problem for my computer has the same origin as recent temperature reporting issues but.....
..... I cannot get my required hwmon module to work in this Pup. I need it for my Temp-CPU widget.
Boot Manager reports the module to be loaded but sensors in a terminal says no modules are loaded.
I switched kernels in 64Bionic796 to an older kernel but still nothing reported for system temperatures.
This non-module-working situation was also in 64Bionic795 and now I see it in the most recent 32-bit Pup (CosmicCuttlefish).
All my other 64-bit Pups and 32-bit Pups are fine with this smsc47b397 module loaded either via the Boot Manager or editing MODULESCONFIG.
Should I suspect a problem with Boot Manager Modules section in the latest woof failing to actually load hwmon modules??
David S.
I'm not sure if this new problem for my computer has the same origin as recent temperature reporting issues but.....
..... I cannot get my required hwmon module to work in this Pup. I need it for my Temp-CPU widget.
Boot Manager reports the module to be loaded but sensors in a terminal says no modules are loaded.
I switched kernels in 64Bionic796 to an older kernel but still nothing reported for system temperatures.
This non-module-working situation was also in 64Bionic795 and now I see it in the most recent 32-bit Pup (CosmicCuttlefish).
All my other 64-bit Pups and 32-bit Pups are fine with this smsc47b397 module loaded either via the Boot Manager or editing MODULESCONFIG.
Should I suspect a problem with Boot Manager Modules section in the latest woof failing to actually load hwmon modules??
David S.
@bigpup
The problem of determining physical ram demand in Linux is a difficult
one. I'm not entirely clear on the HTOP method, but I still have the
sense that it seems to yield a realistic estimate. For example, HTOP
sort of predicted that I would experience crashes under certain
conditions using a mere one gig ram when testing version 7.9.5,
and I did. As soon as HTOP showed ram useage crawling up to the
one gig area, I saw crashes. The simple formula method you suggest
gives too small of a estimate.
Art
The problem of determining physical ram demand in Linux is a difficult
one. I'm not entirely clear on the HTOP method, but I still have the
sense that it seems to yield a realistic estimate. For example, HTOP
sort of predicted that I would experience crashes under certain
conditions using a mere one gig ram when testing version 7.9.5,
and I did. As soon as HTOP showed ram useage crawling up to the
one gig area, I saw crashes. The simple formula method you suggest
gives too small of a estimate.
Art
I installed the path pet and it still appears as constant 32 (probably displaying the icon from the pmcpucurt .config file. I ran the script in terminalTerry H wrote:At present I'll have to wait to run this tomorrow.ozsouth wrote:@Terry H - thankyou for testing cpu temperature. No k8temp in the output. Just running sensors in a terminal should give the same output. Need to determine which sensor is actively monitoring temp & use it. Mick's original didn't do that either. Could read it, apply a burst to CPU & read again, to pick up changes, but don't like to do that to folks CPU's. That means several different possibilities. I've worked on 2 angles - sensor & path. There are 2 main paths so a changed pmcpucurt.sh, checking those paths would do for now.
Here's a pet to test. For other folk, ONLY try this if current pmcpucurt NOT working.
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cat: /sys/devices/virtual/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp: No such file or directory
/usr/bin/pmcpucurt.sh: line 25: /1000 : syntax error: operand expected (error token is "/1000 ")
Script completed hit RETURN to close window.
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/sys/devices/platform/it87.2608/hwmon/hwmon3/temp1_input is written to /root/.config/pmcputemp
Script completed hit RETURN to close window.
@Terry - thankyou for extensively testing. That explodes my path theory for AMD. At least, as per your last line, it's easy to amend the path - one of my objectives. Newer Intel and newer AMD seems OK (80+% of users???), but back to the drawing board for older AMD.
Any Intel users out there having issues with pmcpucurt?
Any Intel users out there having issues with pmcpucurt?
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pmcpucurt
Hello, ozsouth. I have Bionicpup64 on this PC only, a Dell laptop E6410. Whatever cpu temp measurer it came with seems to work.ozsouth (in part) wrote:.. Newer Intel and newer AMD seems OK (80+% of users???), but back to the drawing board for older AMD.
Any Intel users out there having issues with pmcpucurt?
I'll download pmcpucurt and boot Bionicpup64, and hope to report back.
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Oh, I seem to have it already. Is this it?
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 23144 Oct 24 13:51 /usr/bin/pmcpucurt
Tray icon is 56, 55, 57,..
I guess that's normal?
Dell E6410: BusterPup, BionicPup64, Xenial, etc
Intel DQ35JOE, Dell Vostro 430
Dell Inspiron, Acer Aspire One, EeePC 1018P
Intel DQ35JOE, Dell Vostro 430
Dell Inspiron, Acer Aspire One, EeePC 1018P
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666philb
thanks for .6
Frugal freshness,
-touch, wacom ootb now.
-bravo for xvkbd 3.9 and fonts fix,look,hmmm..bigger,thumbs up.
- fw for intel 7260wifi and probably more.good
-taskbar diplay cpu temp and all...intel here
-did i miss that on .5,but think i tried ; could not get get full screen with different screen resolution ,working now.
Check an try,
-remove buildin packages....libjack....
warning may break bla-bla...proceed,yes,
it removed libjackserver.so.0.1.0+(jack2 lib)
*it does not remove usr/lib/libjackserver.so.0.0.28+(jack1)*
wiki:There are two JACK implementations, see this comparison for the difference between the two. In short, Jack 1 and Jack 2 are equivalent implementations of the same protocol. Programs compiled against Jack 1 will work with Jack 2 without recompile (and vice versa).
..but by experience jack server refuse to start if both libs are there ,of course if all you need are libs and do not use jackd you wont have any problem.. suggest removing libjack.so.0.0.28 and libjackserver.so.0.0.28 .
Else,
Days on 7.9.5,hours on .6 no problem ,did not tried every buildin prg ...
platform;motion r12 r001
If someone know how,any link/hints appreciate .:
??
Made that simple script for correcting finger touch not reaching one screen border:
#!/bin/bash
xinput set-prop "Wacom ISDv4 4004 Finger touch" --type=float "Coordinate Transformation Matrix" 1, 0, 0, 0, 1, 0, -0.019, 0, 1
.....from root/Startup ,boot or restartx is all good,
it only just wont survive sleep/resume.
thanks for .6
Frugal freshness,
-touch, wacom ootb now.
-bravo for xvkbd 3.9 and fonts fix,look,hmmm..bigger,thumbs up.
- fw for intel 7260wifi and probably more.good
-taskbar diplay cpu temp and all...intel here
-did i miss that on .5,but think i tried ; could not get get full screen with different screen resolution ,working now.
Check an try,
-remove buildin packages....libjack....
warning may break bla-bla...proceed,yes,
it removed libjackserver.so.0.1.0+(jack2 lib)
*it does not remove usr/lib/libjackserver.so.0.0.28+(jack1)*
wiki:There are two JACK implementations, see this comparison for the difference between the two. In short, Jack 1 and Jack 2 are equivalent implementations of the same protocol. Programs compiled against Jack 1 will work with Jack 2 without recompile (and vice versa).
..but by experience jack server refuse to start if both libs are there ,of course if all you need are libs and do not use jackd you wont have any problem.. suggest removing libjack.so.0.0.28 and libjackserver.so.0.0.28 .
Else,
Days on 7.9.5,hours on .6 no problem ,did not tried every buildin prg ...
platform;motion r12 r001
If someone know how,any link/hints appreciate .:
??
Made that simple script for correcting finger touch not reaching one screen border:
#!/bin/bash
xinput set-prop "Wacom ISDv4 4004 Finger touch" --type=float "Coordinate Transformation Matrix" 1, 0, 0, 0, 1, 0, -0.019, 0, 1
.....from root/Startup ,boot or restartx is all good,
it only just wont survive sleep/resume.
Re: pmcpucurt
Yes, it is the default in 7.9.6.sheldonisaac wrote: Oh, I seem to have it already. Is this it?
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 23144 Oct 24 13:51 /usr/bin/pmcpucurt
Tray icon is 56, 55, 57,..
I guess that's normal?
Seems the old pmcputemp program, using the 'platform' path will work on most machines - does on my Intel N3060 & AMD E450.
Have updated pet - see http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 76#1008276
Have updated pet - see http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 76#1008276
@ozsouth
Installed your version 0.63a of pmcputemp on a computer which has no
cpu temp sensors. Every bootup the old "does not work here" window
pops up and a phoney temp is displayed in the bottom tray. When
I close the window, the phoney temp display disappears.
Why not automatically close the window after three seconds or so? Or
maybe it does close eventually and I've not waited long enough to
see it auto-close?
I'm using this particular "no cpu sensors" computer daily for the time
being, and I should be available to check possible future versions.
Art
Installed your version 0.63a of pmcputemp on a computer which has no
cpu temp sensors. Every bootup the old "does not work here" window
pops up and a phoney temp is displayed in the bottom tray. When
I close the window, the phoney temp display disappears.
Why not automatically close the window after three seconds or so? Or
maybe it does close eventually and I've not waited long enough to
see it auto-close?
I'm using this particular "no cpu sensors" computer daily for the time
being, and I should be available to check possible future versions.
Art
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Wrote about .6 firmware update,ear the loud buzzer~~wrong,again ...and it answer my quest ; is it irrelevant to report behavior with non "stock" kernels??
Giving peabee lxpupsc64-kernel4.19 a try on .6=
Yes it could be irrevalent ;as peabee lxpup use fdrv---.sfs as firmware source.oups..forgot that and posted...
so ,peabee fw is missing iwlwifi-7260-17 needed here, not .6.
While being in a "posting kind of mae culpa" mode about initmodule hid-sensor-hub weirdness ,found that user "mate" gyro create that script mainly as a workaround for keyboard problem at boot solution,
funny as it could,this is a tablet/no keyboard,but does have bios acpi/uefi support for a "vendor" dock one + "driver missing" bezel buttons saw raw thru sensor hub as unknow keyboards inputs,so the script could be trying to help ,my humble 2 cents...as i'll leave this cruel world before having the knowledge to solved that puzzle...
Oh..1 question: are newer puppys use workaround&patch&dbus&busybox&systemd ? i look confuse? well you're pretty right !! weren't puppys knowned as systemd~free ,hmm,i did installed laptop mode tool which did log .services... asking that because modern distro do use it and often looking for online problem/solutions i do stumble in systemd a lot.
Thanks all for your labour/time,
Giving peabee lxpupsc64-kernel4.19 a try on .6=
Yes it could be irrevalent ;as peabee lxpup use fdrv---.sfs as firmware source.oups..forgot that and posted...
so ,peabee fw is missing iwlwifi-7260-17 needed here, not .6.
While being in a "posting kind of mae culpa" mode about initmodule hid-sensor-hub weirdness ,found that user "mate" gyro create that script mainly as a workaround for keyboard problem at boot solution,
funny as it could,this is a tablet/no keyboard,but does have bios acpi/uefi support for a "vendor" dock one + "driver missing" bezel buttons saw raw thru sensor hub as unknow keyboards inputs,so the script could be trying to help ,my humble 2 cents...as i'll leave this cruel world before having the knowledge to solved that puzzle...
Oh..1 question: are newer puppys use workaround&patch&dbus&busybox&systemd ? i look confuse? well you're pretty right !! weren't puppys knowned as systemd~free ,hmm,i did installed laptop mode tool which did log .services... asking that because modern distro do use it and often looking for online problem/solutions i do stumble in systemd a lot.
Thanks all for your labour/time,
@ozsouth
2 out of 6 machines I have here cannot possibly display temps since
they don't have (hardware) temperature sensors. Pmcputemp seems
to recognize such machines and acts appropriately (if not beautifully) as I
described).
Just wanted to let you know that I wasn't reporting a bug. Be nice though
if someone does put a timeout on the startup window of 0.63a to
auto-close it after several seconds.
Art
2 out of 6 machines I have here cannot possibly display temps since
they don't have (hardware) temperature sensors. Pmcputemp seems
to recognize such machines and acts appropriately (if not beautifully) as I
described).
Just wanted to let you know that I wasn't reporting a bug. Be nice though
if someone does put a timeout on the startup window of 0.63a to
auto-close it after several seconds.
Art
Bionicpup64 7.9.6 CE beta
I installed to the hard drive of my Compaq desktop:
System: Host: puppypc28882 Kernel: 4.18.15 x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: JWM 2.3.7 Distro: bionicpup64 7.9.6
Machine: Device: desktop System: Compaq-Presario product: AU194AA-A2L CQ5123F serial: MXX9300M0F
Mobo: MSI model: Boston v: 1.0 BIOS: Phoenix v: 5.24 date: 06/19/2009
CPU: Dual core Pentium E5200 (-MCP-) speed/max: 1834/2500 MHz
Graphics: Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] RV530 [Radeon X1600 PRO]
Display Server: X.org 1.19.6 drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev,vesa)
tty size: 150x33 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Network: Card: Realtek RTL8101/2/6E PCI Express Fast/Gigabit Ethernet controller driver: r8169
Drives: HDD Total Size: 689.5GB (1.3% used)
Weather: Conditions: 34 F (1 C) - light ice pellets Time: October 27, 8:10 PM EDT
Info: Processes: 107 Uptime: 1:03 Memory: 310.2/3941.6MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.8
Installed applications with PPM.
No problems so far,
Thanks.
System: Host: puppypc28882 Kernel: 4.18.15 x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: JWM 2.3.7 Distro: bionicpup64 7.9.6
Machine: Device: desktop System: Compaq-Presario product: AU194AA-A2L CQ5123F serial: MXX9300M0F
Mobo: MSI model: Boston v: 1.0 BIOS: Phoenix v: 5.24 date: 06/19/2009
CPU: Dual core Pentium E5200 (-MCP-) speed/max: 1834/2500 MHz
Graphics: Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] RV530 [Radeon X1600 PRO]
Display Server: X.org 1.19.6 drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev,vesa)
tty size: 150x33 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Network: Card: Realtek RTL8101/2/6E PCI Express Fast/Gigabit Ethernet controller driver: r8169
Drives: HDD Total Size: 689.5GB (1.3% used)
Weather: Conditions: 34 F (1 C) - light ice pellets Time: October 27, 8:10 PM EDT
Info: Processes: 107 Uptime: 1:03 Memory: 310.2/3941.6MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.8
Installed applications with PPM.
No problems so far,
Thanks.
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Where is the firmware hidden please?
Is it lib64/ ?
I want to copy it...usb Nano wireless issues.wireless.
Simplecom NW601... not working
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 70#1008370
but Horray
my TP -Link TL- WN725N does.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 69#1008369
So I want to copy the firmware.
I see Firmware but nothing shows.
Many thanks Chris.
Is it lib64/ ?
I want to copy it...usb Nano wireless issues.wireless.
Simplecom NW601... not working
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 70#1008370
but Horray
my TP -Link TL- WN725N does.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 69#1008369
So I want to copy the firmware.
I see Firmware but nothing shows.
Many thanks Chris.
Tried using the save from 7.9.5 in 7.9.6.
I was using the Nvidia driver in 7.9.5.
That driver was for the wrong kernel, because 7.9.6 is using a different kernel.
So, bootup did not work very well for graphics and getting to a desktop.
The 7.9.5 save had stuff in it that is kernel specific.
If the kernel keeps changing with each new release of Bionicpup64.
I will just use the nouveau driver, which is not kernel dependent.
Note:
All the changes made to 7.9.6 seem to be working for me.
I was using the Nvidia driver in 7.9.5.
That driver was for the wrong kernel, because 7.9.6 is using a different kernel.
So, bootup did not work very well for graphics and getting to a desktop.
The 7.9.5 save had stuff in it that is kernel specific.
If the kernel keeps changing with each new release of Bionicpup64.
I will just use the nouveau driver, which is not kernel dependent.
Note:
All the changes made to 7.9.6 seem to be working for me.
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected
YaPI(any iso installer)
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected
YaPI(any iso installer)
Bionicpup64 7.9.6 CE beta
I installed to the hard drive of my HP desktop:
video-info-glx 1.5.3 Mon 29 Oct 2018 on bionicpup64 7.9.6 Linux 4.18.15 x86_64
0.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
[AMD/ATI] Redwood PRO [Radeon HD 5550/5570/5630/6510/6610/7570]
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS
product: REDWOOD 01.00
X Server: Xorg Driver: radeon
X.Org version: 1.19.6
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (508x285 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: X.Org
OpenGL renderer string: AMD REDWOOD (DRM 2.50.0 / 4.18.15, LLVM 6.0.0)
OpenGL core profile version string: 3.3 (Core Profile) Mesa 18.0.5
AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1045T Processor
Core 0: @870 1: @1511 2: @799 3: @1139 4: @799 5: @833 MHz
Installed applications with PPM, compiled MC-4.8.21
Chromium wouldn't run so using Firefox (it updated to newest version) + sound works.
Bionicpup64 7.9.6 is a pleasure to use on my dual core Compaq desktop, same here.
Thanks.
video-info-glx 1.5.3 Mon 29 Oct 2018 on bionicpup64 7.9.6 Linux 4.18.15 x86_64
0.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
[AMD/ATI] Redwood PRO [Radeon HD 5550/5570/5630/6510/6610/7570]
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS
product: REDWOOD 01.00
X Server: Xorg Driver: radeon
X.Org version: 1.19.6
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (508x285 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: X.Org
OpenGL renderer string: AMD REDWOOD (DRM 2.50.0 / 4.18.15, LLVM 6.0.0)
OpenGL core profile version string: 3.3 (Core Profile) Mesa 18.0.5
AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1045T Processor
Core 0: @870 1: @1511 2: @799 3: @1139 4: @799 5: @833 MHz
Installed applications with PPM, compiled MC-4.8.21
Chromium wouldn't run so using Firefox (it updated to newest version) + sound works.
Bionicpup64 7.9.6 is a pleasure to use on my dual core Compaq desktop, same here.
Thanks.
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Please consider adding
Simplecom NW601 Wireless USB
How to use Simplecom NW601 Wireless USB? (Solved)
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 29#1008529
No recent Pups have this incuding,
UPup Bionic Beaver
Bionicpup64
32-bit UPup Cosmic Cuttlefish
X-Slacko Slim
Page one Murga.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=114560
::
perdido supplied these with help from Semme.
Both work after a reboot.
However I prefer for banking to boot a pristine Puppy,
add my stored bookmarks, and usually Slimjet and off I go.
http://ibm-pc.org/puppy/rtl8812au_rtl88 ... 4.1.48.pet
http://ibm-pc.org/puppy/rtl8812au-5.1.5_k4.1.48.pet
:::::
Linux Drivers from Simplecom site:
https://www.simplecom.com.au/media/link ... _linux.zip
Many thanks...Chris.
Simplecom NW601 Wireless USB
How to use Simplecom NW601 Wireless USB? (Solved)
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 29#1008529
No recent Pups have this incuding,
UPup Bionic Beaver
Bionicpup64
32-bit UPup Cosmic Cuttlefish
X-Slacko Slim
Page one Murga.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=114560
::
perdido supplied these with help from Semme.
Both work after a reboot.
However I prefer for banking to boot a pristine Puppy,
add my stored bookmarks, and usually Slimjet and off I go.
http://ibm-pc.org/puppy/rtl8812au_rtl88 ... 4.1.48.pet
http://ibm-pc.org/puppy/rtl8812au-5.1.5_k4.1.48.pet
:::::
Linux Drivers from Simplecom site:
https://www.simplecom.com.au/media/link ... _linux.zip
Many thanks...Chris.
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Please note:cthisbear wrote:Please consider adding
Simplecom NW601 Wireless USB
How to use Simplecom NW601 Wireless USB? (Solved)
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 29#1008529
No recent Pups have this incuding,
UPup Bionic Beaver
Bionicpup64
32-bit UPup Cosmic Cuttlefish
X-Slacko Slim
Page one Murga.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=114560
::
perdido supplied these with help from Semme.
Both work after a reboot.
However I prefer for banking to boot a pristine Puppy,
add my stored bookmarks, and usually Slimjet and off I go.
http://ibm-pc.org/puppy/rtl8812au_rtl88 ... 4.1.48.pet
http://ibm-pc.org/puppy/rtl8812au-5.1.5_k4.1.48.pet
:::::
Linux Drivers from Simplecom site:
https://www.simplecom.com.au/media/link ... _linux.zip
Many thanks...Chris.
Source for the working rtl8812au driver is located at
This one works good every compile--->https://github.com/Grawp/rtl8812au_rtl8821au
This one works sometimes--->https://github.com/zebulon2/rtl8812au
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New update to JWMdesk just posted. v2.4.3
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=101460
- Add option to change color of retrovol/pnmixer speaker icon (JWMDesk -> Tray tab)
- Add critical desksetup.sh update (Desk Icon Setup) to support recent changes in Woof-CE
- Add puppy-white.svg icon as an option for the jwm menu button (thanks 666philb)
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=101460
- Add option to change color of retrovol/pnmixer speaker icon (JWMDesk -> Tray tab)
- Add critical desksetup.sh update (Desk Icon Setup) to support recent changes in Woof-CE
- Add puppy-white.svg icon as an option for the jwm menu button (thanks 666philb)
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected
YaPI(any iso installer)
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected
YaPI(any iso installer)