(old)Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

I am excited about the R-Pi, and especially interested in seeing Puppy running on it (and ultimately running on an ARM tablet).

Although I am not a programmer, I would like to help in any way possible in this enterprise.

It would seem that to get Puppy up and going on ARM, a lot of things are going to have to be compiled for the ARM 11 processor.

I did some kernel compiling on OLPC's XO-1 in getting Puppy running on that platform. But with 433 MHz, 256 MB RAM and a single core, a kernel on the XO-1 took HOURS to compile! I finally discovered that on my dual-boot (Windows XP-Ubuntu) desktop (2.2 GHz, dual-core, 4 GB RAM) compile time could be reduced to minutes.

So, the reason I was asking if you guys were still intending to develop a Debian-ARM-Puppy (rather than a Fedora-ARM-Puppy since it now seems that Fedora is to be the "official" R-Pi distro) is so as to get the appropriate distro when I order a R-Pi. I am hoping to set up a Linux-ARM cross-compiler on my desktop under Ubuntu 11.10. I have installed gcc-4.6-arm-linux-gnueabi and have waded into trying to figure out how to set up a cross-compile enviornment (I must say the water depth went from my ankles to my chin very rapidly!). Got any good references on setting this thing up? (I know the ARM-linux-distro binutils, headers libraries have to be made available to the cross-compiler, I just don't know where to put them!).

I realize that once I get the R-Pi I will be able to compile things on it natively, but it would seem that a faster machine could do it, well, faster.

Thanks for the link to Mercer's use of qemu for emulation of R-Pi, but from my perspective the addition of one more layer of software will make the already-steep learning curve more than I can deal with right at the present moment.

I will be happy to help in any way I can, even if it is only as a tester.

(Edited to correct typo)

Here is the info you require. Perhaps join the wiki and keep this page updated . . .
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/PARM

Puppy already boots to an x prompt on ARM
Barry is ensuring the toolchain for the t2 system works.
Sickgut will provide a Debian 'Puppy style' ISO
Woof2 will be able to compile across CPU's (including ARM)
Iguleder is working on an alternative porting strategy
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 949#601949

Puppy was originally boot-strapped from Red Hat (before Fedora existed)

Basic info here on Ubuntu cross compiling
http://balau82.wordpress.com/2010/12/05 ... ogramming/

any word on a minimal kernel .config just for the hardware(& patches? if any) ... I already have a couple cross-compile toolchains ready, but I see no point if I don't know what hardware to enable or don't even have the driver sources

O.K., sounds like all of the bases are well covered !

Has anyone signed up for the "going out for pizza" job yet?

. . . still awaiting the return of pizzasgood . . .
http://www.browserloadofcoolness.com/

... I already have a couple cross-compile toolchains ready, but I see no point if I don't know what hardware to enable or don't even have the driver sources

Broadcom chip info exists if any use . . .
http://dmkenr5gtnd8f.cloudfront.net/wp- ... herals.pdf

The fedora guys are able to compile natively on the actual Pi bare metal boards. Fedora will release its code Wednesday 22 Feb 2012.
From their video (on the Pi site),
http://www.raspberrypi.org/
you can see Fedora have not optimised the graphic drivers.

Should we use Fedora or Debian as our boot strap?
Both! . . . dependent on needs . . . with the latest woof including
underdog we should be able to boot from Puppy but access Debian or Fedora

Patience guys
The ovens have cooked the boards. They exist; 10 000 of them. The Pi's need testing, freighting and shipping.
The guys at Rpi are working in their sleep time to get us raspberried.

Make sure you have the peripherals required:
TV with HDMI input
USB keyboard and mouse
5 volt phone charger
2 Gig SD card
custard (eh . . . actually not required)

By next year we will be running Puppy on
an ARM tablet. Some of us will have exciting tales to tell
of how our Raspberry powered Cross-Dimensional-Communicater Mk2 needs quad-core or quantum processing . . .

We are straining at the leash
We have a pizza delivery service.
. . . not long now . . .
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/PARM

We are Puppy
We come in Peaces of Pi

There is British operating system that is interested in the
raspberry pi. It's a spin off of the Acorn computer.

http://www.riscosopen.org/news/articles ... south-west


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The mail order house 'Element14' has put together a manual
quickly including the method to install the image on the
SD card.

http://www.element14.com/community/serv ... y%20Pi.pdf

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Great - concise, useful PDF Don - appreciate that

They provide a link for further great info here
http://elinux.org/RPi_Projects

I have used RiscOS. It ran on the Archimedes
In its day a cutting edge, fast GUI OS costing £699
One of the programs it had was a prototype of a structured drawing
package that would eventually evolve into xaralx

In fact (being a prototype geek)
I became a volunteer for a program at ITV that never aired,
just so I could be trained to use one of their 20 (donated by Acorn) Archimedes,
which wished to publicise the computer.
I nearly bought one but went for the more widely used Intel set up instead

The Rpi is of course more powerful as is the average smartphone

I will no doubt have a look at RiscOS - recently looked at an AmigaOS
but the problem with these redundant and superseded OS is software availability.
Linux software is abundant, evolving and has major players such as
Google and IBM adopting, promoting and developing.

Have pdf - still awaiting news on Rpi ordering

There's a good article and a video explaining
the technology at the end of the article

http://www.thespec.com/news/business/ar ... spberry-pi

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Sacred Seashells [Lobsterian cussing]
Just got this email

Dear Customer

Thank you for joining the Raspberry Pi revolution and registering your interest in Raspberry Pi’s Model B board from RS Components.

We have received extraordinary levels of demand for this product. To help ensure as many people as possible can experience the Raspberry Pi concept, we are limiting boards to one per customer, and we will send you further information on your request in the next seven days. Once we receive the boards into stock, they will be allocated on a first-come first-serve basis, in order of when requests were received.

Thank you for your patience; we will be in touch as soon as possible with more details.


RS Components

This is the UK situation with one of the suppliers
I will not be allowed to pre-order for up to 7 days?

You are not alone.

Regarding the Raspberry Pi, we will be in touch with you as soon as the product becomes available

- RS Philippines

And the PH page of Farnell requires trade account, so the order page stays frozen.

Lobster wrote: Hidden in there was a demo done by Russian guys who were using hercules display cards and monitors (which could not do graphics) to do graphics, using ascii text.
Only a geek would appreciate it - and I did

http://youtu.be/-cs303ToBY8

That was cool. Very clever. Now we know where "The Matrix" got the inspiration.

That was cool. Very clever. Now we know where "The Matrix" got the inspiration.

anyone want to to compile for Neo Puppy?
http://aa-project.sourceforge.net/bb/

Raspberrypi.org is back again.

http://www.raspberrypi.org/

good stuff, still thinking about ordering one ; -)

Hitler demands prompt delivery.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mY5P8Ew ... re=related

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Potential Arm port bases, Arch and Slackware

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 371#609371

Aitch

And Mageia2 and Pardus are in the mix.