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The wary-500m live cd takes wrong wary-500.sfs on the HDD.

Posted: Fri 04 Feb 2011, 23:10
by shinobar
Thanks Bert for testing.

Ensure if you already have the wary-500.sfs on your HDD, remove it or overwrite it with the new one manually.
The wary-500m live CD takes the old or original wary-500.sfs on the HDD.

A.U.B.

Corrupted de-locale cups interface and no locale start side

Posted: Sat 05 Feb 2011, 07:58
by mave
Hi shinobar,

thanks for Wary5m - this is great!

Wondering why I had a corrupted cups interface (section 'printers'): so I looked for the locale cups-templates: after replacing your lang-pack version (/opt) with a original 1.3.11 template it was okay. See images.

So, there was no localized main page of the cups interface, because this side is NOT in (usr/share/cups/templates/XX but original inside /usr/share/docs/cups/XX. Copying this from 1.3.11-source forces getting a localized main page on localhost:631, otherwise there is always only english under Cups' "Home"-Button.

These /usr/share/docs/cups/XX files should be added to the language pack in /opt.

mave

Re: Corrupted de-locale cups interface and no locale start side

Posted: Sat 05 Feb 2011, 08:45
by shinobar
mave wrote:Wondering why I had a corrupted cups interface (section 'printers'): so I looked for the locale cups-templates: after replacing your lang-pack version (/opt) with a original 1.3.11 template it was okay.
Great, mave!
Confirmed some files are lacking in the lang_pack. I wonder why it occured... ah, maybe the lang_pack has the files of the different version cups.
I will upload corrected version of lang_pack.

welcome screen wary 06

Posted: Sat 05 Feb 2011, 18:31
by don570
I tried the German language in Wary 06 multilingual .

On first bootup I noticed that there was two welcome screens, one in
English , then another in German.

Since this Puppy is meant for people who are German rather
than English, I would suggest that it would be better
to make the English welcome screen a menu item and
keep the German welcome screen as an automatic popup
screen after 'firstrun' . Two automatic popup welcome screens
is just too much.

__________________________________________________

wary500m07

Posted: Sat 05 Feb 2011, 20:44
by L18L
bootet wary500m07 pfix=ram
no pupsave
loaded-on-the-fly lang_pack_de.sfs (selfmade from pet)
no restart of X :)

cups:
if "add a new printer" = yes then goto

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http://localhost:631/admin?op=find-new-printers
please

I have made manpages_NLS.pet for 13 languages,
from d e b i a n , extracted command which are in puppy and recoded to utf8. but cannot upload (8 GB) here.
See it in action here:
Image

Upload manpages

Posted: Sun 06 Feb 2011, 02:54
by shinobar
L18L wrote:I have made manpages_NLS.pet for 13 languages,
from d e b i a n , extracted command which are in puppy and recoded to utf8. but cannot upload (8 GB) here.
Get the IP address by clicking the followed. Copy and paste the IP address, '***.***.***.***', as the hostname for the gftp to upload. Username: pu**y, password: li**x
http://shino.pos.to/party/bridge.cgi?ftp

upload manpages

Posted: Sun 06 Feb 2011, 10:15
by L18L
thanks shinobar

pman is included with small change
>> temporary file not deleted so you can change encoding in browser
maybe needs more testing:
was working OK in wary500m06

scripts included in usr/share/man where manpages-XX.deb install
unfatten: deletes files not in puppy
code2utf8: from codes found by trial

It was a nice exercise for me (my 2nd pet)
But do we need manpages_NLS.pet ???
Or just put the man into lang_pack ?

What do you think?
edit
I am voting for "manpages in lang_pack".

- I have taken all available manpages from d e b i a n stable, which might be outdated
and I cannot check for maybe better or more complete translations in other languages.
With "manpages in lang_pack" every language maintainer
can update or upgrade how she likes.

- with future lang_pack-XX.sfs size will not matter

Re: upload manpages

Posted: Sun 06 Feb 2011, 11:27
by shinobar
Download
L18L wrote:pman is included with small change
>> temporary file not deleted so you can change encoding in browser
I am wondering when it disappears.
It must be deleted after the browser is closed... :roll:

By the way, pman is called from the puppyhelp, the 'help' icon on the desktop as for the wary-500-m07.

puppy-manpages

Posted: Sun 06 Feb 2011, 13:07
by L18L
By the way, pman is called from the puppyhelp, the 'felp' icon on the desktop as for the wary-500-m07.
thanks for quoting this
I did not think to klick the help icon
I hope the menu help will result in the same action one day :)
In puppyhelp it was not clear for me that "Search manuals" is also an input field, maybe labeling input or select would be better.

changes in my pman (included in pet) are:

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    ;;
   man2html)
     #TMPFILE=/tmp/$(basename "$FNDMAN" .gz | tr '.' '_').html
     TMPFILE=/tmp/last_call_for_pman.html
     if echo "$FNDMAN" | grep -q '.gz$' ;then
       zcat "$FNDMAN" | man2html > $TMPFILE
     else
       man2html "$FNDMAN" > $TMPFILE
     fi
     $HTMLVIEWER $TMPFILE
     #rm -f $TMPFILE # enables switching of encoding !important
     exit
    ;;
At the moment I am running it, above code copied from running system puppy-manpages_NLS.pet loaded.
works this way from

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pman ls

>file:///tmp/last_call_for_pman.html
which will be overwritten at next pman from console
but from puppyhelp it is:
>file:///tmp/ls_1.html
which is immediately deleted

are there 2 versions of pman now? :roll:

Re: puppy-manpages

Posted: Sun 06 Feb 2011, 13:53
by shinobar
L18L wrote: from puppyhelp it is:
>file:///tmp/ls_1.html
which is immediately deleted

are there 2 versions of pman now? :roll:
Yes, 2 versions of pman for now,
I am wondering in what case the temporal file, /tmp/ls_1.html, is deleted, and found :!:
  1. Launch the browser and seach 'ls' from puppyhelp. The /tmp/ls_1.html is deleted.
  2. Close the browser, search 'ls' from puppyhelp. The /tmp/ls_1.html is still alive.
Well we are better to leave the temporary file as the pman in the pet.

wary500m07

Posted: Mon 07 Feb 2011, 10:50
by L18L
Hi shinobar,
returning from the tests of SFS_Exec which had to be poweroff'ed by turn off the power
now there was at the boot screen a not surprising error message about a previously mounted partition.
In such cases I am used to use

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fsck /dev/XXX
But: see Subject description.
The partition now is accessable without my fsck
Any idea why fsck is missing?
Best regards

Re: wary500m07

Posted: Mon 07 Feb 2011, 11:04
by shinobar
L18L wrote:Any idea why fsck is missing?
maybe Barry forgot it...
There is e2fsck for ext2/3/4 but fsck is missing.

FIXED by Barry:
Here is util-linux-2.16.1-1-w5.pet.

german usr_sbin.po/mo/pot and some modifications

Posted: Thu 10 Feb 2011, 18:54
by mave
Hi,

attached a german usr_sbin.po (and mo, pot).

Also modified Floppy_Formatter (little changes in layout formatting) and video_upgrade_wizard, because entry title on the top wasn't gettexted in the script (usr_sbin.pot manually modified!)

mave

Wary-500m07 w/100 languages

Posted: Thu 10 Feb 2011, 19:59
by L18L
some minor revisions inclusive don570's error messages (thanks don570 :) )
+ tar.mo wget.mo xsane.mo

to make it work just extract and copy to /
Thanks to mave (see post above) who had the largest part we now are almost complete. :D

Next release

Posted: Fri 11 Feb 2011, 14:12
by shinobar
Thanks to all. For your information:
I will upload wary-500m08 in couple of days. It will be our beta stage.
See the TO DO

language packs for cups 1.3.11

Posted: Fri 11 Feb 2011, 18:04
by mave
Available lang-packs for cups 1.3.11, including also main-page of the cups-interface, which isn't in /usr/share/cups/templates...

mave

Welcome1stboot

Posted: Sat 12 Feb 2011, 05:37
by shinobar
I modified the welcome1stboot.
Sensing Puppy status and gives proper message.
See the SS.

Wary-500m08 beta release

Posted: Sat 12 Feb 2011, 08:04
by shinobar
Now the beta release Wary-500m08 is available.

If you already have the previous wary-500m on your HDD, replace all the 3 system files, vmlinuz, initrd.gz and wary_500.sfs.
The lang_pack is also updated. Remove the old lang_pack and replace with the new contained in the wary-500m08.iso.

CHANGES:
  • vmlinuz and wary_500.sfs has unique id to avoid taking wrong system files
  • First run sequence, new welcome1stboot, index.html, home.htm.
  • extralang updated to v0.3
  • updated lang_pack's including cups translations, thanks to mave
  • desktop icon distance same as LupQ-511
  • pnethood utf8 option as the default
  • sfs_load updated to v0.7
  • pupsaveconfig updated to v1.9.9
  • grub4dosconfig updated to v1.7
  • Puppyhelp updated
  • util-linux updated to 2.16.1-1-w5
  • rc.update updated(lol) as the one of wary-501/3
  • Puppy Package Manager bugfix and improved splash(not includes zigbert's new GUI)
  • Snup2 comes back to the main menu replacing pbackup
TO DO: EDIT: We keep Xvesa for now. See the followed discussion.

Posted: Sat 12 Feb 2011, 11:38
by yordanj94
Hi Shinobar.
Haven't been home for a long time.
Today i tried your new "Wary-08".So far so good .No problem.
My favorite one is LUPQ-511. I use it on my laptop [ live-DVD],
but i think Wary-08 is much better to my desktop PC.
Can you tell me is there something really important to move from LUPQ-511 to Wary or you plan to update LUPQ-511 too ?
Greetings !!!

Future plan

Posted: Sat 12 Feb 2011, 13:35
by shinobar
yordanj94 wrote:Can you tell me is there something really important to move from LUPQ-511 to Wary or you plan to update LUPQ-511 too ?
Hi, yordan. Welcome back.

I will update the LupQ after the wary development settles down.
But I think wary is faster than lupQ/lupu for old PC's.
I recommend lupQ only for heavy users who want to install Ubuntu packages.

One concern with wary is Barry is introducing new kernel for the next wary-5.1.
So the kernel 2.6.31.14 of the wary-500 seems tentative.

My another interest is updating Puppy-4.x series with our new user interface and updated applications.