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[L18L]

ngettext is also very useful, especially if there is more than 1 plural form in a language.

[shinobar]

[shinobar]

For your information:
I am now working on improved auto NLS loading system.
The key issue is loading extra sfs files on-the-fly.
I will upload the new designed sfs loader in couple of days.

[L18L]

sorry for being too cryptic
DISTRO_COMPAT_VERSION of "lucid puppy"

for the .pet:
It was my first one.
I will make a better one if more languages (ja) available
renaming to manpages_NLS (without de)
and dependency of man

[L18L]

@rodin.s
tested
success
thank you

[shinobar]

I have made new designed on-the-fly SFS loader.
Visit the topic:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=64354

It will be the important item for loading a large lang_pack in sfs,
even with the live cd without pupsave.

Needs your test and feed back.

[shinobar]

[mave]

Hi shinobar,

wondering on the cups-interface: after installing the german language-pack printer sides are corrupted. Force an english output, it is well.

Maybe the cups-templates including in the lang-pack are not complete?

Did recompile (./configure parameters?) but after installing no change...

mave

[rodin.s]

Although it deleted my google-earth I have made a translation for it. I noticed that line "Updating menu" is not gettexted.
And one more file for russian langpack. It's not gettext-file, it's a text file.

[mave]

Hi,

not happy with (Multilingual) Wary 5 and its Xorg 7.3: in original Wary and also with Firstrun-Wizard, ATI driver in this Radeon is slow for me on my Thinkpad T60, especially in Seamonkey/Firefox, the graphic speed slows down, many sides are not usable for me, application windows often seems frozen, no reaction.

So, I took Barry's upgrade to Xorg 7.5, this driver runs perfectly.

But with or without it: every Startup in (Multilingual) Wary 5 comes up with resolution 1280x1024 and NOT 1400x1050.

Exit to prompt, running xorgwizard, then xwin: resolution is okay. But inside start scripts, anywhere a (ddcprobe?) xorg.conf-file is generated including only resolution 1280x1024 and THIS is taken by xwin.

ddcprobe gives this and the Thinkpad T60-TFT works normally with 1400x1050:

vbe: VESA 3.0 detected.
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS
vendor: (C) 1988-2005, ATI Technologies Inc.
product: M54CSP 01.00
memory: 16384kb
mode: 640x400x256
mode: 640x480x256
mode: 800x600x256
mode: 1024x768x256
mode: 1280x1024x256
mode: 132x25 (text)
mode: 132x43 (text)
mode: 640x480x32k
mode: 640x480x64k
mode: 800x600x32k
mode: 800x600x64k
mode: 1024x768x32k
mode: 1024x768x64k
mode: 1280x1024x32k
mode: 1280x1024x64k
mode: 320x200x32k
mode: 320x200x64k
mode: 1600x1200x256
mode: 1600x1200x32k
mode: 1600x1200x64k
edid:
edid: 1 3
id: 4022
eisa: LEN4022
serial: 00000000
manufacture: 0 2005
input: analog signal.
screensize: 29 21
gamma: 2.200000
dpms: RGB, active off, suspend, standby
timing: 720x400@70 Hz (VGA 640x400, IBM)
timing: 640x480@75 Hz (VESA)
timing: 1024x768@87 Hz Interlaced (8514A)
ctiming: 1280x1024@60
dtiming: 1400x1050@70
dtiming: 1400x1050@58
monitorid: LTN141P4-L02

Looking on the scripts, I don't know why it happens changing every time to only 1280x1024.

Anybody else?

mave

[gcmartin]

If @Mave is correct, sound like next Wary should benefit. It is rumored that next Wary will have latest Xorg 7.5. Is there a beta or RC available now or is there a test Wary-NLS that already has this somewhere?

[shinobar]

Wary-500m07 is out. See the top of this topic

The download size is 216MB.
The reason of this large is the 112MB additional language packages.
The lang_pack_all_0.1-w5.sfs is 76MB large, supports 100 languages.
The core 104MB is loaded plus only needed language pack is loaded at the boot up.
This system is realized thanks to the sfs_load on-the-fly technique. But I suppose next rerease is better to remove the lang_pack_all from the iso to make it smaller.
The Wary-500m07 has many fixes and updates almost the same as the Barry's Wary-501beta.

CHANGES:

• Improved initrd loads extra SFS's in the order written at the BOOTCONFIG
  
• New sfs_load on-the-fly-0.4.
  
• Improved extralang loads large sfs lang_pack on-the-fly
  
• New lang_pack_all-0.1-w5, supports 100 languages
  
• New puppyhelp GUI. Click the 'help' icon on the desktop.
  
• The first desktop is now Xorg(vesa) instead of Xvesa.
  
• Fixed firstrun- v1.8.2: was failed GMT+-n, avoid black screen at changing timezone
  
• Fixed and improved pupsaveconfig-1.9d9.(rc.shutdown): was save to cd failed, (removing /mnt/*mnt/+.. does not work)
  
• Fixed fixmenus_on_locale was got black screen in some occasion
  
• Improved sound card recognition

TO DO:

• desktop icon distance to be same as LupQ-511
  
• cups translations
  
• pnethood utf8 option to be the default
  
• sfs_load to be updated to v0.6
  
• extralang to be updated
  
• pupsaveconfig to be updated to v1.9.9
  
• grub4dosconfig to be updated to v1.7
  
• Puppyhelp to be updated
  
• util-linux to be updated to 2.16.1-1-w5
  
• rc.update to be updated(lol) as the one of wary-501/3

[shinobar]

Click the 'help' icon on the desktop.

[Bert]

Shinobar, just installed Wary-500m7. Wow, first impressions are very very good!

What surprised me is how snappy it is...two geniuses at work! (you and Barry)

I am now really motivated to finish the Dutch wary NLS translation!
Big Thank you from Europe

[Bert]

Running from live-cd:

First boot, after setting locale, etc: everything is localized, A save-file is made on internal sata HD. Seamonkey is localized too, in 'preferences'>'appearance', it says user interface language is English-US, while in reality it is showing a Dutch interface. It offered to change the setting from English to Dutch, which I did.

Second boot: save-file has apparently not been created, Wary is back to its pristine state, without any locale adjustments or personal settings.
After choosing locale, everything is localized, but not Seamonkey.

Third boot: Save-file is now created, localization is correct for menu and icons, but I have to add the lang_pack-lupq to get the apps localization (Abiword, Geany, Gnumeric, etc)
Seamonkey is back in English-us, not offering to change to Dutch this time.

Hope this helps!