Puplite 5.0

[sc0ttman]

Gaah, Pwidgets insists on using the ROX desktop. I've found somehow that I was clinging to it too much and I like the Not-ROX Desktop (with PMconky, etc.) much better.

Lemme dig around in JWM and see if I can find what I want.

EDIT: nevermind, there's not even an option for a 2nd tray.

Dont worry, Yes you can. do it

It can be created manually. Here are some good guides:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=46829

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=56795

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=51200

[starhawk]

The dotPet broke JWM -- background is black and the drive icons don't show up.

There's a way to fix that, right?

[sc0ttman]

The dotPet broke JWM -- background is black and the drive icons don't show up.

There's a way to fix that, right?

If you have it, copy /root/.jwmrc-previous to

/etc/xdg/templates/_root_.jwmrc

and

/root/.jwmrc


That should do it... Then start over.

You shouldnt install the pet, but follow the steps manually.
Sorry, probably should have mentioned that.

[starhawk]

Didn't have it, and there were essentially no files on the system -- let alone ones that I had to keep.

Booted off the CD, deleted my *.2fs file and started over again.

BTW, Puplite runs fsck (very slowly) every. single. boot. Is there a way to disable this? On a 160GB HDD it takes like 5min and that --for me-- is way too much wasted time.

[sc0ttman]

BTW, Puplite runs fsck (very slowly) every. single. boot. Is there a way to disable this? On a 160GB HDD it takes like 5min and that --for me-- is way too much wasted time.

Hmmm, it literally takes 2 seconds on my machine, and mine isn't that quick!

But yes (this is from memory, please forgive me if it's not perfect):

1. Hit the 'E' key on the option you want to boot, in the GRUB menu.

2. Then scroll down (DOWN key) to the line which contains "fsck", hit 'E' again to edit that line.

3. Remove the "fsck" option (remove all of the pfix option, if fsck is the only one..)

4. Hit ENTER, then hit 'B' key to boot.

OR

Wait until you have booted, and if you have your menu.lst (that is .LST) file stored on your hard drive or USB, then you can edit the file directly. (This cannot be done if you are using the Live CD to boot, you must use the mothod above.)

[starhawk]

Great, thanks!

One more JWM problem -- I edit /root/.jwmrc-drives to get rid of the floppy drive icon (there's no floppy drive in this system) but it won't go away.

[sc0ttman]

Great, thanks!

One more JWM problem -- I edit /root/.jwmrc-drives to get rid of the floppy drive icon (there's no floppy drive in this system) but it won't go away.

1. Remove line 43, in /usr/sbin/create_jwmrc_drives.sh

2. Then double click on /usr/sbin/create_jwmrc_drives.sh to run it.

3. Then restart JWM - Menu->Shutdown->Restart JWM
...or in the terminal

Code: Select all

jwm -restart

[starhawk]

Here's what worked for me... it's a little more involved.

(1) Remove the relevant entry in /usr/sbin/create_jwmrc_drives.sh
(2) Remove same entry in /root/.jwmrc-drives
(3) Open rxvt and type "fixmenus" [Enter] at the # prompt.
(4) Restart JWM.

[sc0ttman]

Here's what worked for me... it's a little more involved.

(1) Remove the relevant entry in /usr/sbin/create_jwmrc_drives.sh
(2) Remove same entry in /root/.jwmrc-drives
(3) Open rxvt and type "fixmenus" [Enter] at the # prompt.
(4) Restart JWM.

Glad you got it working.

[nooby]

Puplite boots but fail to get internet.
Now I have several puppies that do get internet. They have maybe newer kernels.

Can I borrow a driver from them Atheros driver and place it in luplite and get internet that way?

[starhawk]

@sc0ttman: got my top tray to work -- I'd left out some very important quotation marks in some very important places. Derp.

[sc0ttman]

Puplite boots but fail to get internet.
Now I have several puppies that do get internet. They have maybe newer kernels.

Can I borrow a driver from them Atheros driver and place it in Puplite and get internet that way?

You cannot steal modules from other kernels, no

If you have windows installed, you can try adding the PERL and ndiswrapper pets listed previously in this thread, and try using your Windows drivers.

I am hoping that Puplite 5.0 will be a final version, based on the Snow Puppy kernel.

I've been saying it for a while...
But I've yet to hammer out all the issues with switching kernels, but when I do it will be lovely

[nooby]

Thanks! Yes I am way too naive it seems.

Snow puppy works good on my computers.

[jplt]

Hello,

puplite don't recognize my ext4 partitons
even in gparted (that included in) ?

Thanks.

[sc0ttman]

Hello,

puplite don't recognize my ext4 partitons
even in gparted (that included in) ?

Thanks.

I think ext 4 is not supported in any Puppy 4 by default.

But you can try installing this pet I have attached, it may help you open it, or so something with it...

Also, this GParted supports ext4:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=41656

Probably no need to install it though, ext4 just isnt supported by the current Puplite kernel - there is only so much you can do.

[sc0ttman]

Just a note, in case anyone waiting for this cares, for Puplite 5.0 I plan on using the new 2.6.32.28 kernel from Wary 504 (or later, we'll see...)

Upgrading to this kernel should mean much better hardware support, faster, sfs4 based...

That will also mean ditching the otf-sfs-loader from goingnuts..
But we can replace it with shinobars new one.

Current plans for Puplite 5.0:

- upgrade to latest wary kernel (with smp, rfkill, etc)
- choose appropriate otf sfs tool and make it work
- fix: add ndiswrapper 1.55, add all required PERL-tiny deps, plus addons (adds ~700kb)
- fix rox toggle - make it stick after reboot (updated xinitrc)
- fix: PupApps and PupControl, so they work with the wallpaper-setter. (edit /usr/local/PupControl/defaultapps/wallpaper)
- fix: add check save file space for otf-sfs-loader - confirm load if not enough space
- add: antiword_epdf - easy convert and view MS word files as PDF (adds ~ 200kb)
- add: ex, the tiny vi editor (to replace tiny-elvis, adds ~110kb)
- add: java interpreter (jamvm ~ 400kb)
- add: javascript interpreter (tiny-js ~ 14kb)
- add: tiny c compiler (tinycc ~200kb)
- add: python interpreter (tinypy, adds ~57kb)
- add: tiny tcl/tk interpreter (jimtcl and tclsh symlink)
- add: sql engine - sqlite-3.4.3 (adds ~ 200kb)
- add simple, tiny ftp server - pure-ftpd and its gui
- add: wput, and GUI for to uploading to servers (adds ~90kb)
- add: gtkam 0.1.16-1-pup4 (adds 87kb)
- add: mcedit to defaults-chooser (its better than mp)
- add: technosaurus' isomaster (its a fixed version)
- add: screen brightness gui for xbacklight, plus a menu entry
- add "nrg2iso" cli tool, plus nrg mime type and 'update-mime-database' and a default action
- add "make iso script" that supports grub and isolinux (steal code from Woofy)
- add gtklp 1.2.7 to printing sfs,
- add: mmv - mass renamer/mover cli tool (~35kb)
- add: glurp (or other mpd client) plus libmpdclient (adds 30kb)
- add: rox_docx (manually add it!)
- update: pmusic to 1.6.*, update pTiming, pSchedule
- update: defaults-chooser: support siag office, frisbee, others???
- update: remove static mksquashfs files, replace with 'pup4' versions (saves ~600kb)
- update: rpm handling - auto convert to pet and ask to install... ala txz packages
- update: default mp3 action - add a wrapper/gui - if mocp is running (ask to) add song to playlist, if not, play, update mocp to use mocha_theme
- update: puppy event manager to run create_jwm_drives (if exec in init.d) and restart jwm after hot-plugging a device (help!!)
- update: transmission_cli to 1.75 (adds 100kb)
- update: add fixedwidth="175" to <TaskList /> in /root/.jwmrc-tray
- update: browser-installer to use new opera 11 pet file
- update: snapmergepuppy from shinobar/jemimah/jrb
- update: add entry in "Startups" for ShareInternet
- update: nicer jwm taskbar theme; updated in jwm-personal, _root_jwm-tray and _root_jwmrc
- update: pmount with proper alignment

[Frank Cox]

I am trying to find an os for a Thinkpad 701c with 75 mhz cpu and 40 megs ram

Hi Scotman!

[sc0ttman]

I am trying to find an os for a Thinkpad 701c with 75 mhz cpu and 40 megs ram

Hi Scotman!

Try PupnGo, in the Puppy Projects section.

PupnGo is VERY bare bones, but JWM can be added.
As can Dillo, Ted, siag office, vlc_nogui, and a few other things.

goingnuts will soon, I think, release a version with lots of drivers.
After you boot it, you can run 'zdrv_cutter' which removes all drivers you don't use (make sure to have all your extra pci,usb,etc devices plugged in when you do it though!)

If that is no good for you, maybe "214X", or "TurboPup". Though they may be too heavy for your 75mhz CPU

[goingnuts]

sc0ttman: thanks for recommending pUPnGO - but I do not think it will go: Although small the kernel might be too new for that hardware. Have a couple of pentium desktops here - they will boot P412 retro but not pUPnGO. Other distros might also be considered: dsl, bl3 and mulinux are all "small" and seems to work on the old hardware. Another question is how to install them...
Wish there were a way to boot via a flashcard in pcmcia slot.

[Puppyt]

I am trying to find an os for a Thinkpad 701c with 75 mhz cpu and 40 megs ram

... or perhaps, Frank, you might like to check out zenfunk's "Pulp" over here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... &start=120. Sullysat has Pulp 0.03 working on a machine with similar specs as yours (middle of page 9), and contributors 'f00 and sindi have made some fascinating progress with zenfunk's original puplet, very recently, covering pages 9-11. Perhaps there'll be a new Pulp-based puplet for machines such as yours very shortly - Lets hope.

(Alternatively, there's always FreeDOS http://www.freedos.org/. I have the latest version - with latest memory managers - running on a Toshiba 430CDS on 120 MHz and 32 MB RAM more sweetly than the day it was originally loaded with Win95. For Dos games and WordPerfect 5.1 only, though - though I could load Arachne for the web.)

Back on topic - looking forward to Puplite 5.0, sc0ttman!