Woof CE Debian Stretch and Devuan Ascii Based Development

[musher0]

Hi belham2.

Billtoo is right: if you don't have a CD with the pup on it, you can mount
the ISO and direct the remaster program to this mount so it can find and
fetch what it needs.

There is another technique for remastering. It consists of unsquashing
both the pupsave and the main puppy sfs in separate directories, and
then copying the contents of unsquashed pupsave into the unsquashed
main sfs. Afterwards you resquash the main sfs, and then "inject" the
rebuilt stretch sfs into the iso using isomaster.

It is much faster, but you have to master the copy command. By that I
mean not only know thoroughly the settings of the copy utility itself to
insure proper copying of the proper files, but you have to copy selectively
(almost nothing from the pupsave's /etc directory, for ex.) and a couple of
other precautions. jlst is a pro at this.

All in all, using the remaster utility is a good way to go.

IHTH.

[ttuuxxx]

Hi Guys, Ok I got a man cold and hard to think so bare with me. The icon package I posted works if your using woof Ce, Just run the scripts and after it extracts the pet packages before the last step, just swap the blue moon themes in the folder.
I haven't reset yet since the power went out a few days back, We I haven't had the time with work etc and now this stupid man cold, I'm having a quick day at work tomorrow so after that I'll do some test with the Kernel.
As For Abiword, Well the default debian version is a waste of space, you might as well install open office, I have tried compiling it about 20 times and it never wants to compile right. I have managed to get the latest slacko Abiword to run with 2 system links not really what I want to do either. Same with this other linux distro it only needed 1 extra dep to get it running. One of the things the latest one picks up is the GTK 3 cutdown version we have. We should really look into getting rid of GTK3 or Installing it fully. Because it gives compiling issues for sources looking for it. Oh what the hell I'll try again and see where it goes.
ttuuxxx

[musher0]

Hello ttuuxxx and all.

Speaking of the devil, I reworked médor's sfs for abiword-3.0.0. I added
a missing symlink, a desktop file, refreshed the libffi6, and I think this
package is ready to go for DpupStretch7.

Direct download from : http://augras.eu/documents/public/6cb7ab
(URL valid until Dec. 31, 2017.)

I've named it so that if you put it in your DpupStretch dir., the pup should
load it at startup automatically. Otherwise, by sfs_load is always good.

I wasn't sure before, but having re-checked, I can confirm that Médor did
include all plugins and languages in his sfs. Also his is based on gtk2,
not gtk3, like shinobar's.

Some features I've checked:
-- loads text from PDF files
-- loading html is iffy, but perhaps it's just me.
-- loads the helps docs from the abiword site in your main browser.
-- doesn't leave any slag in /mnt, like shinobar's sfs does (unfortunately),
after unloading it.

Anyway, you do as you like. It's there for the taking!

@ttuuxx: Me and the dogs we mush across the river to bring you some
Buckley's Syrup for that cold? Or you have some?

TWYL.

[musher0]

Hello all.

This is a must: the most recent urxvt, presented as a pet: urxvt-9.22.pet
http://www24.zippyshare.com/v/PlCY4VJF/file.html
(URL valid for 30 days from last download.)

The one in the Stretch build dates back to 2008. Do I need to say more!?

I did the compilation afresh on the DpupStretch with "enable-everything",
so it uses the perl libraries in the Stretch. Among other things, this
enables urxvt to have tabs. V. 9.22 also has full transparency, fading
when not in focus, etc.

This pet also contains my .Xresources, .Xdefault and .bashrc files, but
named a little differently, so won't squish yours. For study or inclusion.
A lot of urxvt's configurations are in those files.

As for me, I swear by it. but to each his/her own.

TWYL.

[belham2]

Hi belham2.

Billtoo is right: if you don't have a CD with the pup on it, you can mount
the ISO and direct the remaster program to this mount so it can find and
fetch what it needs.

There is another technique for remastering. It consists of unsquashing
both the pupsave and the main puppy sfs in separate directories, and
then copying the contents of unsquashed pupsave into the unsquashed
main sfs. Afterwards you resquash the main sfs, and then "inject" the
rebuilt stretch sfs into the iso using isomaster.

It is much faster, but you have to master the copy command. By that I
mean not only know thoroughly the settings of the copy utility itself to
insure proper copying of the proper files, but you have to copy selectively
(almost nothing from the pupsave's /etc directory, for ex.) and a couple of
other precautions. jlst is a pro at this.

All in all, using the remaster utility is a good way to go.

IHTH.

Hi Musher & all,

Hey, I am trying RREEEALLLLY hard to understand if you guys take the time to read a person's post or not?

I said very clearly in my message about the problem:

Welllllllll Evil or Very Mad ....now there's another problem: not one of the builds I did with ttuuxxx's 4.1.38 kernel (5 of them) will let 're-mastering" run. for some reason, it just cannot see the mounted ISO and/or if its on a CD. The program just stops after this message comes up: (I've done literally hundreds of remasters in other pups over the past few years, so I do know someting about using it). ReMaster just sits and spins once it reaches the:

"This remaster program needs to read some files off the current live-CD....blah....blah,...blah"

...and the ISO is already mounted and it still cannot see it. (I've tried all builds that use ttuuxxx's kernel), and not one of them will run the 'Remaster Live Puppy-Cd' program'. When you choose "/dev/loop2" where the ISO is mounted, up pops a message saying:

"Please insert the current Puppy-Live Cd into loop2. Then click ok...."

....and the ReMastering script is dead in the water, stuck. I just put the ISO on a CD, and the ReMaster programs still does not work. Argh!!


Can anyone (Billtoo) please test if their setup uses ttuuxxx's new kernel? You don't have to run thru the complete remaster program, Just see if you can get past this point where it is stopping for me.


Interesting: I just loaded the other build using the old 3.14.79 kernel. The Remastering program script works there with no problems. Ttuuxxx, you out there?? Could it be your new kernel causing this?? If so, how and is it anything I can fix?? Could all 5 different builds using that kernel have the same bug???

So, ok, please be honest; is my written english that bad?

Come on, guys, it says VERY CLEARLY there I tried both pointing to the ISO mounted (via /dev/loops) and I additionally also tried using a CD with the ISO on it. Ugh....

..... I guess maybe I should start writing my posts in this thread in my quite limited French. Please know my written French is much worse than my English, but if it would help avoid this repeated writing of things that has already been wirtten/said, confirmed and tried, then I am willing to give it a go. But do cut me some slack, despite living in a French-speaking country, my grasp of written French is STILL terrible and does not approach the mastery of English you guys display!

[belham2]

Hello all.

This is a must: the most recent urxvt, presented as a pet: urxvt-9.22.pet
http://www24.zippyshare.com/v/PlCY4VJF/file.html
(URL valid for 30 days from last download.)

The one in the Stretch build dates back to 2008. Do I need to say more!?

I did the compilation afresh on the DpupStretch with "enable-everything",
so it uses the perl libraries in the Stretch. Among other things, this
enables urxvt to have tabs. V. 9.22 also has full transparency, fading
when not in focus, etc.

This pet also contains my .Xresources, .Xdefault and .bashrc files, but
named a little differently, so won't squish yours. For study or inclusion.
A lot of urxvt's configurations are in those files.

As for me, I swear by it. but to each his/her own.

TWYL.

Now this is nice, Musher! Going to put it into the next woof-Ce build I do. Thank you!

[belham2]

Hi Guys, Ok I got a man cold and hard to think so bare with me. The icon package I posted works if your using woof Ce, Just run the scripts and after it extracts the pet packages before the last step, just swap the blue moon themes in the folder.
I haven't reset yet since the power went out a few days back, We I haven't had the time with work etc and now this stupid man cold, I'm having a quick day at work tomorrow so after that I'll do some test with the Kernel.
As For Abiword, Well the default debian version is a waste of space, you might as well install open office, I have tried compiling it about 20 times and it never wants to compile right. I have managed to get the latest slacko Abiword to run with 2 system links not really what I want to do either. Same with this other linux distro it only needed 1 extra dep to get it running. One of the things the latest one picks up is the GTK 3 cutdown version we have. We should really look into getting rid of GTK3 or Installing it fully. Because it gives compiling issues for sources looking for it. Oh what the hell I'll try again and see where it goes.
ttuuxxx

Darn you, ttuuxxx, now you TELL me! It took me ~2 hours last night of running repeated builds trying to figure out where to swap those damn icons in...finally figured it out (as basically what you wrote--my problem was focusing eslewhere, the rootfs-skeleton folder).

As far as Abiword, alright! I am going to hold off on then releasing my ISO and see where you go with Abiword. Would really like to include something simple for people/users and their document/writing wishes, but I have a rule of no going over 400mb for the ISO. I am at ~350-~360mb now. A walrus for sure, but not quite a whale yet, lol.

[ttuuxxx]

Hi Guys, Ok I got a man cold and hard to think so bare with me. The icon package I posted works if your using woof Ce, Just run the scripts and after it extracts the pet packages before the last step, just swap the blue moon themes in the folder.
I haven't reset yet since the power went out a few days back, We I haven't had the time with work etc and now this stupid man cold, I'm having a quick day at work tomorrow so after that I'll do some test with the Kernel.
As For Abiword, Well the default debian version is a waste of space, you might as well install open office, I have tried compiling it about 20 times and it never wants to compile right. I have managed to get the latest slacko Abiword to run with 2 system links not really what I want to do either. Same with this other linux distro it only needed 1 extra dep to get it running. One of the things the latest one picks up is the GTK 3 cutdown version we have. We should really look into getting rid of GTK3 or Installing it fully. Because it gives compiling issues for sources looking for it. Oh what the hell I'll try again and see where it goes.
ttuuxxx

Darn you, ttuuxxx, now you TELL me! It took me ~2 hours last night of running repeated builds trying to figure out where to swap those damn icons in...finally figured it out (as basically what you wrote--my problem was focusing eslewhere, the rootfs-skeleton folder).

As far as Abiword, alright! I am going to hold off on then releasing my ISO and see where you go with Abiword. Would really like to include something simple for people/users and their document/writing wishes, but I have a rule of no going over 400mb for the ISO. I am at ~350-~360mb now. A walrus for sure, but not quite a whale yet, lol.

You do know its a lot faster just using Pfind in advanced mode pointed to the woof-ce directory right? You would of found the icons in about 10-20 seconds. But yes Sometimes I do they same, but really try to get used to using Pfind it does make life a lot easier.
ttuuxxx

[musher0]

Hi belham2.

Billtoo is right: if you don't have a CD with the pup on it, you can mount
the ISO and direct the remaster program to this mount so it can find and
fetch what it needs.

There is another technique for remastering. It consists of unsquashing
both the pupsave and the main puppy sfs in separate directories, and
then copying the contents of unsquashed pupsave into the unsquashed
main sfs. Afterwards you resquash the main sfs, and then "inject" the
rebuilt stretch sfs into the iso using isomaster.

It is much faster, but you have to master the copy command. By that I
mean not only know thoroughly the settings of the copy utility itself to
insure proper copying of the proper files, but you have to copy selectively
(almost nothing from the pupsave's /etc directory, for ex.) and a couple of
other precautions. jlst is a pro at this.

All in all, using the remaster utility is a good way to go.

IHTH.

Hi Musher & all,

Hey, I am trying RREEEALLLLY hard to understand if you guys take the time to read a person's post or not?

I said very clearly in my message about the problem:

Welllllllll Evil or Very Mad ....now there's another problem: not one of the builds I did with ttuuxxx's 4.1.38 kernel (5 of them) will let 're-mastering" run. for some reason, it just cannot see the mounted ISO and/or if its on a CD. The program just stops after this message comes up: (I've done literally hundreds of remasters in other pups over the past few years, so I do know someting about using it). ReMaster just sits and spins once it reaches the:

"This remaster program needs to read some files off the current live-CD....blah....blah,...blah"

...and the ISO is already mounted and it still cannot see it. (I've tried all builds that use ttuuxxx's kernel), and not one of them will run the 'Remaster Live Puppy-Cd' program'. When you choose "/dev/loop2" where the ISO is mounted, up pops a message saying:

"Please insert the current Puppy-Live Cd into loop2. Then click ok...."

....and the ReMastering script is dead in the water, stuck. I just put the ISO on a CD, and the ReMaster programs still does not work. Argh!!


Can anyone (Billtoo) please test if their setup uses ttuuxxx's new kernel? You don't have to run thru the complete remaster program, Just see if you can get past this point where it is stopping for me.


Interesting: I just loaded the other build using the old 3.14.79 kernel. The Remastering program script works there with no problems. Ttuuxxx, you out there?? Could it be your new kernel causing this?? If so, how and is it anything I can fix?? Could all 5 different builds using that kernel have the same bug???

So, ok, please be honest; is my written english that bad?

Come on, guys, it says VERY CLEARLY there I tried both pointing to the ISO mounted (via /dev/loops) and I additionally also tried using a CD with the ISO on it. Ugh....

..... I guess maybe I should start writing my posts in this thread in my quite limited French. Please know my written French is much worse than my English, but if it would help avoid this repeated writing of things that has already been wirtten/said, confirmed and tried, then I am willing to give it a go. But do cut me some slack, despite living in a French-speaking country, my grasp of written French is STILL terrible and does not approach the mastery of English you guys display!

Point taken, belham2. Please accept my apologies.
(It's not my language, it's my glasses! Probably my grey cells, too...)

However, I did mention an alternative way of remastering. So I probably
caught a thing or two from your message!

That said.... About the subject at hand, I very much doubt that there
would be any cause-effect link between the kernel version and the
remaster utility.

The remaster utility is basically a sophisticated copy script. If you can run
any other script on your rig, you should be able to run the remaster script.

Maybe look the other way: not at the kernel, but at the remaster script.
Compare the size of the one in the 3.14 kernel pup and its size on
ttuuxxx's. There are a few versions lying around, and some older verseions
were buggy.

Maybe ask ttuuxxx about his experience / knowledge of this link. He's the
developer of the beast! But I'm pretty sure he'll confirm that there is no
link between the kernel and remastering.

Also, it's difficult in the abstract to suggest a solution, since I don't have
the exact same DpupStretch6 you're working on. My base is the default
woof-CE build, not ttuuxxx's.

Trying shinobar's remaster utility instead of the mainstream one comes to
mind, if you can find it in this bazaar of a forum. Or on shinobar's own ftp
site, maybe? (Haven't visited there in a while...) I used it a couple of
times, and was awed at the time, at how efficient it was. It's probably
inside an older computer gathering dust somewhere in this room...

Or roll up your sleeves and get acquainted with the alternative, grass-
roots, method of remastering?

BFN.

[Billtoo]

I did another remaster of an install that used the iso that ttuuxxx
uploaded,(his iso was mounted), I had changed the kernel to lxpup-4.10.2, the final remaster
was using the 3.14.79 kernel.
I saw a message during the remaster process about "vmlinuz missing so
ignoring" or something close to that.

The remaster worked fine, I changed the kernel again to lxpup 4.10.3
and it works great on this pc with intel graphics, tried same on a
pc with nvidia graphics and it didn't work well at all so switched back
to the 3.14.79 and it works fine again on that pc.

Anyway this remaster is going to be my daily driver on both computers
(it's large but loaded for bear ), each uses a different kernel.

System: Host: puppypc28561 Kernel: 4.10.3-lxpup-32-pae i686 (32 bit) Desktop: JWM 2.3.6
Distro: Dpup Stretch 7.0.0a1
Machine: Device: desktop Mobo: Acer model: Aspire X3950 serial: U02C120500059
BIOS: American Megatrends v: P01-A3 date: 05/05/2010
CPU: Dual core Intel Core i3 540 (-HT-MCP-) speed/max: 1200/3067 MHz
Graphics: Card: Intel Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller
Display Server: X.org 1.19.1 driver: intel tty size: 126x41 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Network: Card: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: r8169
Drives: HDD Total Size: 500.1GB (8.0% used)
Info: Processes: 183 Uptime: 1:55 Memory: 166.0/5933.0MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.5

[ttuuxxx]

My base is the default woof-CE build, not ttuuxxx's.

BFN.

Well that hurts, lol

Has anyone tried editing the sfs files and build a new iso image using PeasyDisc ?? Man I miss my old computer setup in Australia, I had a 10ft long computer table and 7 pc's here I have just one on a computer desk not really setup yet for testing, I should get myself a testing laptop or build a better work station.
ttuuxxx

[belham2]

My base is the default woof-CE build, not ttuuxxx's.

BFN.

Well that hurts, lol

Has anyone tried editing the sfs files and build a new iso image using PeasyDisc ?? Man I miss my old computer setup in Australia, I had a 10ft long computer table and 7 pc's here I have just one on a computer desk not really setup yet for testing, I should get myself a testing laptop or build a better work station.
ttuuxxx

Well, I am an idiot. I've always seen the 'Peasydisc' in some pup menus, and it says (at least in this dpup menu and others I have):

"PeasyDisc Optical Disc Tools"

I never knew you could just drop a folder in there, and away you go. This is what I've been needing all along, as I am so close ot my final ISO, that I am tired of modifying the woof-CE build 2 & 3 stages, and just want to make small changes to the main pup,sfs. Thank you, ttuuxxx, going to make a a few new ISOs this tonight and this weekend using RSCN's great app.

By the way, he SERIOUSLY needs to change the menu entry for it in woof-CE builds (for any pup): something along the lines of "PeasyDisc ISO/DISC Creator and Tools". Lets people know the real power of all the peasy stuff in /usr/sbin. Lol, I just changed PeasyDisc menuy name in my pups, and the ISO I will release, so people won't have to wonder like me. The great DD SFS-Edit scripts work great here. Goodbye to woof-CE builds for now----yippeee


P.S. I've got some setup like you want: 5 pcs in my office, which is comprised 3 mid-towers and 1 custom (in-the-desk) build I did (all wood), plus a laptop----all serving about ~10 various internal and external hard drives, and each HD has a physical switch where I can turn it off, and move to the next one. # keyboard and mouses, and various USB and KVM switches, and it makes doing 2 or 3 builds at once a joy...not to mention trouble-shooting things.

[musher0]

An "all wood" computer ? Yeah, belham2, an electronic device made of
wood, why sure!!! Someone had to think of it! As in "Touch wood!",
maybe?

Joke aside, I gave a go at the remasterpup2, and it went ok. I interrupted
half way, but didn't have the problem you mentioned of the script barfing
when presented with loop9 (or whatever).

I also remember Sailor Enceladus and Geoffrey mentioning that it is
possible to transform your pupsave into an adrv sfs -- instead of doing a
full remaster. Maybe give them a ring to get the details. I'm not familiar
with that technique. That way you don't have to redo everything from
scratch. That much at least I know.

BFN.

[Billtoo]

I installed my last remaster to my old Compaq desktop.

System: Host: puppypc1731 Kernel: 3.14.79 i686 (32 bit) Desktop: JWM 2.3.6 Distro: Dpup Stretch 7.0.0a1
Machine: Device: desktop System: Compaq Presario 061 product: DQ182A-ABA S6700NX NA410 v: 0nB1411RE101COBRA10 serial: MXM41001K5
Mobo: ASUSTeK model: Cobra v: 1.xx serial: X312345678
BIOS: American Megatrends v: 3.28 date: 08/27/2004
CPU: Single core Intel Pentium 4 (-HT-) speed: 2800 MHz (max)
Graphics: Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] RV530 [Radeon X1600 PRO]
Display Server: X.org 1.19.1 drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev,vesa)
tty size: 153x41 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Network: Card: Realtek RTL-8100/8101L/8139 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter driver: 8139too
Drives: HDD Total Size: 448.1GB (1.6% used)
Info: Processes: 114 Uptime: 57 min Memory: 161.6/1511.1MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.5

It works well.
I guess I'd better give PeasyDisk a try for a comparison to woof-CE, maybe create a new franken-pup with it.

EDIT; I used PeasyDisk to make a new iso 306MB and burned it to a DVD+RW, it took a while to boot on the old Compaq but made it and I've updated PPM, added Firefox ESR + inxi + a tas-1.1.3 pet.

Haven't done the first shutdown yet so may not save it.
System: Host: puppypc26144 Kernel: 4.9.13 i686 (32 bit) Desktop: JWM 2.3.6 Distro: Dpup Stretch 7.0.0a1
Machine: Device: desktop System: Compaq Presario 061 product: DQ182A-ABA S6700NX NA410 v: 0nB1411RE101COBRA10 serial: MXM41001K5
Mobo: ASUSTeK model: Cobra v: 1.xx serial: X312345678
BIOS: American Megatrends v: 3.28 date: 08/27/2004
CPU: Single core Intel Pentium 4 (-HT-) speed: 2800 MHz (max)
Graphics: Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] RV530 [Radeon X1600 PRO]
Display Server: X.org 1.19.1 drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev,vesa)
tty size: 129x42 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Network: Card: Realtek RTL-8100/8101L/8139 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter driver: 8139too
Drives: HDD Total Size: 448.1GB (0.5% used)
Info: Processes: 164 Uptime: 13 min Memory: 344.6/1507.3MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.5

[belham2]

Hi all,

@all----found my remaster problem, all is working now with it (though I never use it, because like Bill, it seems to bloat the ISO). Anyhow, it works, so if a user wanted it, it's there. YEAH, another problem solved.

@musher---yes, it's all wood...lololol...same stuff my head is made out of Also, wish you'd teach me how to permamently make conky stay transparent. My FEH solution works, modifying .xinit and all, but doggone it, every time you start swithing backgrounds (of which I am now including 31), FEH gets all confused (maybe Conky too) and Conky then reverts to its normal black background. It just will not stay transparent all the time, unless you always stick to one desktop wallpaper background...and we know that ain't no fun for any user (other problem is I like FEH as a quick right-click image viewer, it is lightning fast and low on resources).

@---OscarTalks....Oscar, if you are reading this by chance, can I ask a huge favor. I've loaded your Dreamchess (from Wheezy) in as one of the games. I admit I luv chess. The program starts well, it asks you to choose 'Players', then 'Difficulty', then "level", and once I make all the choices, I click on "Start Game", and Dreamchess disappears & nothing happens (none of the boards load from /usr/share/dreamchess). Is this problem solvable?? If not, is there a chance I could beg, plead and just grovel to see if you could get it to work in our dpup-stretch editions?? Dreamchess is the best option out there for pups, and at only ~5MB, given the beautiful board & pieces it provides, nothing else in terms of other chess games comes close.


@all----I am almost ready to release my ISO I have been working on for what seems like years now, lol. Hours every night, ignoring my family, ignoring my kids, ignoring my eyes, ignoring my health, doing things like making sure all 28 icon sets have the required, correct icons, the 43 JWM themes and 43 GTK themes work and don't clash and/or crash the system, and finding/including many classic and new pup scripts/programs that work like a charm, and hunting down all wayward symlinks and stuff like that. The ISO is now up to ~380MB, but she is a beauty. The Queen of the Fattest Whales, and she will be all tricked out----hell, the right-click options I have spent hours on, for every kind of file, image, etc, etc, organizing all the right-clicks so they are easily seen and quickly adminstered, is like nothing I have seen in any other puppy (and I have used them all for the past 5 years). I really, truly believe you guys are gonna luv this pup, getting deluxe customization out the wazoo (GTK theme makers, icon theme generators, icon manipulators, image maniuplators, jwm themes and maker, puppypinboard creation and locking/unlocking, sfs and pet manipulations all right-click accessible, 3 great text editors (we can't do everything in Geany!), 3 terminals (Sakura is a must along with LxTerminals, the list goes on and on and on....... ). Well, maybe not, maybe beauty is all just in the eye of this beholder, and you'll all think it is the worst pup you've ever seen and tried. Either way, soon as ttuuxxx gives me a heads up on the Abiword thing, and if OscarTalks could work his magic on DreamChess, then this elon Musk-Tesla Puppy is ready for takeoff, lol!!



P.S. Do we have to leave PCManFM in these dpup-stretches? I like it and all (especially in Peebee's creations), but in these dpup-stretches pcmanfm just doesn't rock like ROX does. ROX is tightly interwound into everything I've put in and added additionally to my build, that pcmanfm is almost an after thought. Any danger in me just completely removing pcmanfm?

[futwerk]

a few new backgrounds.

[belham2]

a few new backgrounds.

oooh, heading to your site to include that 2nd new desktop wallpaper background into my build. I've got 4 of yours in there Thanks futwerk!

[666philb]

a few new backgrounds.

hi futwerk,

can we have some 1920x1080 versions

cheers

phil

[musher0]

@belham2 and all:

To come back to the subject of remastering, I managed to find not one, but
two remastering utilities by shinobar.

This one had awed me a couple of years back, as I mentioned earlier:

remasterx-1.0:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... ost#780345
This one is "intended to replace the remasterpup2,"
It is a "Puppy Live CD Remastering tool."

This one I didn't know existed until now:

mkdist:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 767#780349
This one is a "multifunction file converter useful in making / tuning
puplets up." (This is more of a "tune-up" tool.)

Shinobar provides how-tos for both.

Grab'em!

IHTH. BFN.

[musher0]

@belham2:

About conky being transparent: as I said in the other thread, I use qiv for
this. When i change backgrounds, conky continues to show the background
that was there at startup, so its background does not change to black.

I have to restart the Pup from initial black console (in other words the
sequence xwin -> xinit -> .xinitrc needs to happen) to get conky to reflect
a new background.

[Edit, June 2 2017:]
Of course ROX-Filer and qiv must use the same background. This is
how I get qiv to use the PuppyPin backdrop:

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(c) musher0, 6 oct. 2015. GPL3.
FONDACTUEL="`cat ~/Choices/ROX-Filer/PuppyPin | grep '<backdrop ' | cut -f 2 -d '>' | cut -f 1 -d '<'`"
qiv -z $FONDACTUEL

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I believe the problem lies with ROX using its own background layer. (My
understanding.) I never read of a way to have ROX use the "main"
background layer, so I think this problem is here to stay.

It's obvious that technically and logically you cannot stay in Xorg while
recycling Xorg. The latter needs to happen to show a new "main layer"
background.

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On the subject of pcmanFm, I think it's ok to get rid of it. To really
complement ROX-Filer, IMO, we need a true two-panel file manager, such
as emelfm2, xfe, or Midnight Commander.

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My 2¢. BFN.