woof-CE needs you

[musher0]

Hi greengeek.

I meant the gov't policies of certain countries, or lack thereof, not the
language-speakers themselves.

When I say "bulldozer language", I don't mean forcing me to learn
Abenakis ou you to learn French. I mean the policies -- in Canada, for ex.
-- completely ignoring the Aboriginal languages in the school curriculum
of say, the Abenakis or Assiniboine children on their reservation.

I mean systemic ignorance of minority-culture languages by a country
not doing anything to facilitate the survival of such languages.

Gov't ignorance and non facilitation can be efficient bulldozers to bury
languages spoken by small groups, even if the "genius" of these
languages represents a world-view more ancient than our French or
English languages.

I meant it from the point of view of anthropology and linguistics (the
science of languages).

IHTH

~~~~~~~~~
PS This search may give more context:
http://www.ask.com/web?q=languages+dyin ... archTopBox

[musher0]

@all

In the slacko-694_alpha by Sailor Enciladus, if you type

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rox -r rightpanel

does a ROX panel appear on the right side of the screen?

I'm trying to determine if there's something wrong with the rox.
When I type the command above no panel is displayed.

TIA

[Sailor Enceladus]

Hi musher0. Typing rox -r rightpanel worked for me. rox -right also worked. I'm just using it's default theme on a 1280x800 screen. The right panel had two folders Home and Apps, and right-clicking on the panel gave me the option to remove it after.

[musher0]

Hi musher0. Typing rox -r rightpanel worked for me. rox -right also worked. I'm just using it's default theme on a 1280x800 screen. The right panel had two folders Home and Apps, and right-clicking on the panel gave me the option to remove it after.

Thanks, Sailor.

Yeah that's what that command is supposed to do. Very, very strange.
Maybe I'm being "gaslighted".

Bye for now.

[Sailor Enceladus]

Oh... what about if you run rox -left, then right-click on the left panel and go to Panel Options and try selecting right, top, bottom? Maybe there is somewhere that still thinks you have a 3200x1080 screen and hasn't refreshed properly (xrandr?) so it's actually drawing it past the right 1920 edge in the air beside your monitor at location 3148? *wild guess*

[musher0]

Oh... what about if you run rox -left, then right-click on the left panel and go to Panel Options and try selecting right, top, bottom? Maybe there is somewhere that still thinks you have a 3200x1080 screen and hasn't refreshed properly (xrandr?) so it's actually drawing it past the right 1920 edge in the air beside your monitor at location 3148? *wild guess*

Quite clever! I'll try that.

[Sailor Enceladus]

dead link

[anikin]

I feel the need to share my recent discovery with all of you folks:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/fatdog/packag ... arch-1.txz
This is a collection of all the scripts that come with FatDog and it was posted on Barry's blog here:
http://barryk.org/news/?viewDetailed=00501
They (almost all of them) are begging to be included in Puppy and/or Woof-CE and many other Live distros like Toni's (saintless) DebianDog. Here are the most valuable (and probably hardest to implement) ones: /bin <fatdog-mount-wrapper.sh>, /usr/sbin <fatdog-drive-mounter.sh>, /usr/sbin <filemnt> because

...Most of the familiar gtkdialog GUIs and wizards were replaced with gtk-server variants...

http://distro.ibiblio.org/fatdog/web/history.html
Another item of interest is /root/Choices/ROX-Filer <readme>:

Fatdog64-600 Compatibility Notes.
================================

ROX Filer settings have been moved to its new location in $HOME/.config/rox.sourceforge.net/

Shared configuration (MIME-types, URI) now lives in /etc/xdg/rox.sourceforge.net.

This folder, especially the PuppyPin symlink, exist only for compatibility reasons and for
Puppy script which has not been updated to work with the new location.

Also have a look at /etc/xdg/rox.sourceforge.net/SendTo. Our community will greatly benefit from this collection, because, in my simple-minded view, any work directed at improving Puppy or any other Live distro, should start from carefully examining these sophisticated scripts. A tremendous amount of work - thank you, jamesbond for sharing it with others!

[Sailor Enceladus]

I updated those previous iso links to latest commit today and moved Firefox 45.7esr to adrv. Test them again if you want to.

[Billtoo]

I updated those previous iso links to latest commit today and moved Firefox 45.7esr to adrv. Test them again if you want to.

Did a manual frugal install to the hard drive.

System: Host: puppypc7545 Kernel: 3.14.55 i686 (32 bit) Desktop: JWM 2.3.2 Distro: Slacko Puppy 6.3.2
Machine: Device: desktop System: Compaq Presario 061 product: DQ182A-ABA S6700NX NA410 v: 0nB1411RE101COBRA10 serial: MXM41001K5
Mobo: ASUSTeK model: Cobra v: 1.xx serial: X312345678
BIOS: American Megatrends v: 3.28 date: 08/27/2004
CPU: Single core Intel Pentium 4 (-HT-) speed: 2800 MHz (max)
Graphics: Card: AMD/ATI [Advanced Micro Devices ] RV530 [Radeon X1600 PRO]
Display Server: X.org 1.14.3 drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev,vesa)
tty size: 167x48 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Network: Card: Realtek RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ driver: 8139too
Drives: HDD Total Size: 448.1GB (1.3% used)
Weather: Conditions: 30 F (-1 C) - light snow Time: February 5, 10:07 AM EST
Info: Processes: 118 Uptime: 53 min Memory: 202.5/1511.7MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.8

VIDEO REPORT: Slacko Puppy, version 6.3.2

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: AMD/ATI [Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.] RV530 [Radeon X1600 PRO] Display controller: AMD/ATI [Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.] RV530 [Radeon X1600] (Secondary)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): ati
Loaded modules: dbe dri2 exa fb fbdevhw glx kbd mouse radeon ramdac

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 3840x1080 pixels (1013x285 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

It's working fine here,
Thanks

[Sailor Enceladus]

Thanks Billtoo.

Completely random but it looks like something was added to Woof-CE 3 months in the future?

edit: I tried to build a 4.1.38 kernel but it looks like http://git.code.sf.net/p/aufs/aufs-util is currently down.

[peebee]

edit: I tried to build a 4.1.38 kernel but it looks like http://git.code.sf.net/p/aufs/aufs-util is currently down.

Seems to be back now.....

Line 200 of build.sh can be changed to the alternate url:

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aufs_utils_git="https://git.code.sf.net/p/aufs/aufs-util"

see:

http://aufs.sourceforge.net/
section: Public aufs4 GIT trees - aufs (v3 and later) utilities

[ttuuxxx]

Trying to build devuan and a few packages weren't found. Any Ideas?

WARNING: gcc-4.9-base pkg was not found!
WARNING: gcc-4.9 pkg was not found!
WARNING: g++-4.9 pkg was not found!
WARNING: cpp-4.9 pkg was not found!
WARNING: libgnutls-deb0-28 pkg was not found!
WARNING: libnettle4 pkg was not found!
WARNING: libhogweed2 pkg was not found!
WARNING: libjasper1 pkg was not found!
WARNING: libjasper-dev pkg was not found!
WARNING: libjasper-runtime pkg was not found!
WARNING: libgif4 pkg was not found!
WARNING: libpng12-0 pkg was not found!
WARNING: libpng12-dev pkg was not found!
WARNING: libstdc++-4.9-dev pkg was not found!
WARNING: libopenjpeg5 pkg was not found!
WARNING: libopenjpeg-dev pkg was not found!
WARNING: libssl1.0.0 pkg was not found!
WARNING: libpcrecpp0 pkg was not found!
WARNING: perl-modules pkg was not found!
WARNING: perl-modules pkg was not found!
WARNING: python-support pkg was not found!
WARNING: libreadline6 pkg was not found!
WARNING: libreadline6-dev pkg was not found!
WARNING: libmysqlclient18 pkg was not found!
WARNING: xserver-xorg-video-modesetting pkg was not found!
WARNING: libprocps3 pkg was not found!
WARNING: libpsl0 pkg was not found!

[666philb]

Trying to build devuan and a few packages weren't found. Any Ideas?

WARNING: gcc-4.9-base pkg was not found!
WARNING: gcc-4.9 pkg was not found!
WARNING: g++-4.9 pkg was not found!
WARNING: cpp-4.9 pkg was not found!
WARNING: libgnutls-deb0-28 pkg was not found!
WARNING: libnettle4 pkg was not found!
WARNING: libhogweed2 pkg was not found!
WARNING: libjasper1 pkg was not found!
WARNING: libjasper-dev pkg was not found!
WARNING: libjasper-runtime pkg was not found!
WARNING: libgif4 pkg was not found!
WARNING: libpng12-0 pkg was not found!
WARNING: libpng12-dev pkg was not found!
WARNING: libstdc++-4.9-dev pkg was not found!
WARNING: libopenjpeg5 pkg was not found!
WARNING: libopenjpeg-dev pkg was not found!
WARNING: libssl1.0.0 pkg was not found!
WARNING: libpcrecpp0 pkg was not found!
WARNING: perl-modules pkg was not found!
WARNING: perl-modules pkg was not found!
WARNING: python-support pkg was not found!
WARNING: libreadline6 pkg was not found!
WARNING: libreadline6-dev pkg was not found!
WARNING: libmysqlclient18 pkg was not found!
WARNING: xserver-xorg-video-modesetting pkg was not found!
WARNING: libprocps3 pkg was not found!
WARNING: libpsl0 pkg was not found!

hi ttuuxxx,

i've just tried the devuan build and the packages downloaded for me. check Packages-devuan-jessie-main, the packages should be listed there.

run 0setup again and see if there's any errors when the package databases are converted to a puppy format.

also i would use a modern pup to build from.... latest slacko or tahr.

[Billtoo]

I was running a recent LxPupsc and gave woof-ce a go.
I opened a terminal on a large empty ext4 partition and followed the
steps on page 1 of this thread.
I made no changes, just sat back and watched the show.
There were a few warnings when the devx was being created but I was
able to compile a few applications with it without problems

System: Host: puppypc16291 Kernel: 4.1.11 i686 (32 bit) Desktop: JWM 2.3.2 Distro: Slacko Puppy 6.9.6.4
Machine: Device: desktop System: Compaq-Presario product: AU194AA-A2L CQ5123F serial: MXX9300M0F
Mobo: MSI model: Boston v: 1.0 BIOS: Phoenix v: 5.24 date: 06/19/2009
CPU: Dual core Pentium E5200 (-MCP-) speed/max: 2000/2500 MHz
Graphics: Card: Intel 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller
Display Server: X.org 1.18.3 drivers: intel (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev,vesa)
tty size: 160x35 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Network: Card-1: Realtek RTL8101/2/6E PCI Express Fast/Gigabit Ethernet controller driver: r8169
Card-2: Linksys WUSB54GC v1 802.11g Adapter [Ralink RT73] driver: rt73usb
Drives: HDD Total Size: 508.1GB (5.0% used)
Weather: Conditions: 36 F (2 C) - Mostly Cloudy Time: February 14, 12:22 PM EST
Info: Processes: 103 Uptime: 44 min Memory: 153.0/4027.4MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.8

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Slacko Puppy, version 6.9.6.4

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 10)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): intel
Loaded modules: dbe dri2 fbdevhw glx kbd mouse present

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1920x1080 pixels (507x285 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#
There were quite a few different kernels to choose from,some older
non-pae but I thought the newer pae kernel would be a good choice.

Anyway, it's working well so far

[musher0]

Hi Billtoo.

Congratulations!

No problem with jwm being unable to change themes?

BFN.

[Billtoo]

Hi Billtoo.

Congratulations!

No problem with jwm being unable to change themes?

BFN.

Hi musher0,

Thanks,

I just new changed the theme from "bright mouse" to "dark mouse" without any problems.

[musher0]

Great!

Will you be making it available to us simple mortals?
You are publishing it soon, I hope?

BFN.

[Sailor Enceladus]

hi ttuuxxx,

i've just tried the devuan build and the packages downloaded for me. check Packages-devuan-jessie-main, the packages should be listed there.

run 0setup again and see if there's any errors when the package databases are converted to a puppy format.

also i would use a modern pup to build from.... latest slacko or tahr.

Hey 666philb,

Were you using the master branch? Testing and rationlise seem to be on Devuan Ascii now instead of Jessie (for 2 months apparently), or did you somehow add Jessie as a fallback database? I got the same 27 warnings as ttuuxxx in Ascii and it seems to be because the version number in Packages-devuan-ascii-main is higher than DISTRO_PKGS_SPECS now (ie. gcc-6 instead of gcc-4.9) so I tried replacing the older ones with what I think are the right ones. The only three I couldn't find were libjasper, python-support, and xserver-xorg-video-modesetting, which I think are now combined into openjp2 and python and removed from xserver-xorg-video-all? Going to try building it now with this updated spec and see how much stuff is still missing.

[Billtoo]

Great!

Will you be making it available to us simple mortals?
You are publishing it soon, I hope?

BFN.

No, if a simple mortal like myself can get one with woof-ce others can
too.

I can follow the steps on page 1 of this thread but I don't have the
knowledge of Linux or Puppy to answer any questions that would come my
way, I am a user not a developer.

Thanks to the developers of woof-ce for providing this tool.

Also, radky's FbBox is a good alternative to JWM in my opinion

Thanks.