LxPup : a Puppy with LXDE as its desktop environment

[peebee]

The wl driver worked for me on an old laptop after I blacklisted b43 and ssb.

Thanks @rcrsn51
I'd blacklisted b43 but forgotten about ssb.
Works for me with both blacklisted:

wl: module license 'MIXED/Proprietary' taints kernel.
Disabling lock debugging due to kernel taint
wlan0: Broadcom BCM4312 802.11 Hybrid Wireless Controller 6.30.223.271 (r587334)

I remember that rerwin produced some changes way back that did these preferences automatically - perhaps I should see if I can find them and add them to the activate Broadcom utility? or is that dangerous?
They used to be built in to puppies but maybe they've dropped out of the new woof-ce puppies.....

Cheers
peebee

p.s. stemsee has released a 4.3 kernel with the mt7601u driver built into the kernel - still needs firmware added to work however....

[rcrsn51]

IIRC, you can change the driver source code so it is reported as an "open source" driver. Then the "tainted" stuff disappears. But that would be cheating.

[peebee]

IIRC, you can change the driver source code so it is reported as an "open source" driver. Then the "tainted" stuff disappears. But that would be cheating.

It would!! Would probably have 01micko and iguleder fuming!!

/etc/rc.d/MODULESCONFIG does have:
PREFLIST=' ssb:wl bcma:wl ssb:bcma wl:ipw2100:ipw2200:iwlwifi b43:wl '

in it - so the wl driver should be used in preference to both ssb and b43 - wonder why it isn't?? It used to work in older puppies....

[rcrsn51]

Maybe because this version of wl has no specific aliases, so it can never be matched against a conflicting module like ssb.

There is so much legacy cruft in the PREFLIST that you have to wonder if it still does anything useful.

The same could be said for old code like rc.network. PWF replaces the 685-line version with 32 lines.

[wrayc]

trying to install compiz

used the steps outlined on the compiz pup forum of adding the 2 sfs files... helper then compiz.

compiz settings show up but no effects

thanks

[peebee]

trying to install compiz

used the steps outlined on the compiz pup forum of adding the 2 sfs files... helper then compiz.

compiz settings show up but no effects

thanks

Haven't updated that for some time - no plans to do so ATM I'm afraid - sorry.

http://lx-pup.weebly.com/archive---no-l ... ained.html

Only applies to Slacko flavour of LxPup - last tested compatible LxPup was LxPup-14.10 (I think).

http://sourceforge.net/projects/lxpup/files/LxPup14.10

Cheers
PeeBee

[wrayc]

Peebee wrote:

Haven't updated that for some time - no plans to do so ATM I'm afraid - sorry.

http://lx-pup.weebly.com/archive---no-l ... ained.html

Only applies to Slacko flavour of LxPup - last tested compatible LxPup was LxPup-14.10 (I think).

http://sourceforge.net/projects/lxpup/files/LxPup14.10

Cheers
Peebee.

Yes I recall you saying on the compiz pup forums. I should have mentioned yes that I was attempting to install compiz on slacko lxpup 15.11. I tried 15.05 tahrpup which comes with compiz offered (via pets) but on one computer lxpanel doesn't restart after and my other pc won't even allow me to install compiz on tahrpup pup 15.05 although it runs compiz pup 14.10 perfectly.

Go figure.

I can stick with Compiz pup 14.10

Thanks

[Wauuu]

IIt is a good distro but would prefer to have another package wifi instead of puppy app
i run "get_bluetooth_connexion": it doesnt work.
I install bluedevil, blueman .
I have no problem porteus. My driver is b43.
Is there any way to load sequentially and porteus sfs? Because to customize with add-ons firefox and HTML home page I had to use mksquashfs?

[peebee]

IIt is a good distro but would prefer to have another package wifi instead of puppy app
i run "get_bluetooth_connexion": it doesnt work.
I install bluedevil, blueman .
I have no problem porteus. My driver is b43.
Is there any way to load sequentially and porteus sfs? Because to customize with add-ons firefox and HTML home page I had to use mksquashfs?

Hi
Maybe it would be better to stick with Porteus if you like it better?? It's a fine distribution.
Trying to make Puppy behave like Porteus doesn't seem to be a very worthwhile activity?
Is there a reason you want to move from Porteus to Puppy? Is it because Porteus has moved from LXDE to LXQT?
You can load Porteus modules by renaming them to .sfs - but you're on your own if you choose to modify Puppy in this way I'm afraid.

[Wauuu]

.bs = .Sfs = .xz
But are ther any other .pet or Bluetooth .sfs?
sorry for the courtesy. Hello everyone. I'm involved with go

[noalternative]

Not sure why. All I know is it won't and when I try it through the terminal it gives me a spot related error.

[peebee]

Not sure why. All I know is it won't and when I try it through the terminal it gives me a spot related error.

Suggest you run the browser (which is it?) in a terminal (type defaultbrowser) and capture the error messages - post them somewhere like:

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 457#837457

There are warnings that the spot implementation in puppy is not well developed or tested.....I have no experience of it myself

[rufwoof]

Downloaded LxPupTahr 15.05.2 pae onto a old Celeron D 32 bit single core.
Extracted vmlinuz ....etc and changed grub4dos menu.lst
Booted frugally
Setup locale etc
Set global font size to 120
Changed gtk theme to Emacs as I find that to be the most responsive
Changed the wallpaper.
Added showing of drives on desktop
Set the trashcan to not being shown on desktop.
Rebooted creating savefolder
pfix=ram at next reboot and renamed zdrv to adrv, renamed puppy sfs to zdrv and made a puppy sfs of the savefolder content
rebooted pfix=ram (my preferred default i.e. no savefile) and all is running well/clean.
Now configured to how I like, read only core puppy (I store data etc outside of puppy space and prefer a stable/consistent read only puppy each and every time).

So far tried out chrome, libre 5, existing sfs's etc and all is running great.

I'm unfamiliar with the filemanager and openbox etc - but so far I really like what I'm seeing. So much so this could become my everyday primary pup.

[rufwoof]

Few hours later .... and its off to the virtual land-fill

Used PPM to 'install' Blender. After quite a wait that failed ... needed to update PPM.

Updated PPM ... again quite a long wait, hitting enter every now and then. Retried to install blender and ... apparently all installed ok (after another long wait) - except the desktop had lost its wallpaper and all of the tray icons were missing (shown but with a red x icon).

Restarted WM, still the same. Shutdown and restarted ... still the same.

So savefolder in effect trashed as well.

[peebee]

Few hours later .... and its off to the virtual land-fill

Used PPM to 'install' Blender. After quite a wait that failed ... needed to update PPM.

Updated PPM ... again quite a long wait, hitting enter every now and then. Retried to install blender and ... apparently all installed ok (after another long wait) - except the desktop had lost its wallpaper and all of the tray icons were missing (shown but with a red x icon).

Restarted WM, still the same. Shutdown and restarted ... still the same.

So savefolder in effect trashed as well.

Which repository did you install from? How many missing dependencies were required to be installed? Does Blender expect a particular desktop environment?

Have you had Blender working previously on this hardware? On which version of Puppy?

Don't understand how your savefolder could be changed if you had converted it to a read-only sfs????

Can't really be of much help with this one - is there a Blender thread on the forum? This may be relevant and a better place to download from:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 834#850834

It is a fairly eye-watering 96MB pet !!!! I would have thought a prime candidate for an sfs rather than a pet.....

Cheers
peebee

[rufwoof]

Which repository did you install from? How many missing dependencies were required to be installed? Does Blender expect a particular desktop environment?

I just installed LxPup, clicked the update PPM option and let it run as-is to update (default choices).

Selecting blender thereafter (first in list, something like 2.69 IIRC) did result in lots of dependencies also being required and automatically grabbed. Seemed to do a fine job of things, sorting out the dependencies, downloading and installing them etc, even a OK no dependencies missing end prompt - but the desktop/tray icons were screwed up.

Have you had Blender working previously on this hardware? On which version of Puppy?

Slacko 5.3.3 (via SFS - that works fine on the same hardware). The intent was to install blender prior to installing Openshot as blender is required (and a full blown inkscape) for Openshot to fully work (animated titles etc.).

My 'basic' requirements of any system is to have a text editor (leafpad/geany), calculator (galculator) and paint program (mtpaint) ... and a next level up of work processor and spreadsheet (and presentation) i.e. Libre Office ... and a next level up of audio and video editing i.e. Audacity and Openshot (that requires python, blender, inkscape, melt). Supplement that with the latest browser (I prefer firefox) and the other utilities (burn/play CD/DVD's/MP3's/MP4's etc) ... and that collectively is a PC for me. (I'd add Skype to that).

Don't understand how your savefolder could be changed if you had converted it to a read-only sfs????

The initial conversion to read only was a quick test. More usually I configure/install the above and once its as-I-like I convert that to read only, so less likely to become corrupted or 'upgraded' to something that doesn't work. i.e. once I have the 'toolset' configured I just want to use those tools with little thought about them, and concentrate on the task in hand.

Can't really be of much help with this one - is there a Blender thread on the forum? This may be relevant and a better place to download from:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 834#850834

It is a fairly eye-watering 96MB pet !!!! I would have thought a prime candidate for an sfs rather than a pet.....

Cheers
peebee

Thanks for taking the time to respond peebee. More a case of a observation than a help/fix requirement. Otherwise nice and clean - like it a lot. One thing I did miss were visual clues i.e. under Rox when I click something it flashes a box around that icon/selection as a visual indicator that 'somethings happening' I found under LX that I wasn't sure in some cases and ended up with multiple versions of (for example) video's being played (one behind the other).

I did have VLC playing a video, chrome playing a sneekylinux youtube video (both soundtracks came through overlaid fine), Libre 5 running ...etc. and on this dated single core it looked good and held together very well.

[mikeslr]

Hi rufwoof,

I usually work with Pups built from Ubuntu binaries rather than slackware's. My impression is that Slacko's are much closer to Slackware than "upups" are to Ubuntu; consequently, PPM does a better job in Slackos than "upups" in accurately identifying what "dependencies" are or aren't really dependencies.

Could just be a case of "the grass is greener".

At any rate, gjuhasz put together a Blender pet for Puli, which is a modified Tahrpup. Information and links here: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 834#850834

Don't know if its the "full version" you need. You might be better off downloading Blender direct from it website and repackaging &/or ldd for anything missing.

How did you "Add showing of drives on desktop"?

mikesLr

[rufwoof]

Hi Mike

How did you "Add showing of drives on desktop"?

It's a package that you can download (pet) via one of the other threads/forums, which has been included as a automatic get (via menu) in LxPup

Menu, desktop, change appearance, options, drive icons and then install the pet.

IIRC there may still be some issues/bugs with that and certain types of drives/usb's. Can't recall the exact details (and can't find the thread after a quick search).

[rufwoof]

That Blender pet installed great thanks Mike

It would seem however that the PPM 'bug' wasn't just for Blender. After installing that PET I tried installing Openshot from the PPM and hit the same problem. During installation the tray gets refreshed ... several times I think and it looks like one of the dependencies screws the tray up. All occuring too fast to see exactly what dependency is doing the nasty.

The installation all runs through fine to completion, but you're left with icons that partially work and apparent loss of all icon images (but still clickable/usable (application/menu icons are also lost)).

[rufwoof]

Tried another run and it looks like the tray icon trashing occurs near the end of the blue progress bar reaching its end (right) point.

Looking at user packages after installation of Openshot I'm seeing a content as per the attached (false .gz file) text file i.e. rename to exclude the .gz suffice and open as a text file

Guess the cause is one of those but I can't pin it down any closer to the exact culprit(s).

I suspect it might be a python one as I believe that's common to both Openshot and Blender