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Precise Puppy 5.5, released March 9, 2013
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BarryK
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Location: Perth, Western Australia

PostPosted: Sat 09 Mar 2013, 20:46    Post subject:  Precise Puppy 5.5, released March 9, 2013
Subject description: Built from Ubuntu Precise Pangolin DEBs
 

Yet another official release of Puppy Linux!

Precise Puppy 5.5 announcement and download links:
http://bkhome.org/blog2/?viewDetailed=00172

If you want to read the discussion for the 5.5-beta and 5.5-RC builds:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=84298

Feedback welcome!

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James C


Joined: 26 Mar 2009
Posts: 5679
Location: Kentucky

PostPosted: Sat 09 Mar 2013, 21:49    Post subject:  

Fresh frugal install of Precise 5.5..... all looking good.

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Precise Puppy, version 5.5

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev c1)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1440x900
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): nouveau
Loaded modules: dbe dri dri2 exa extmod fb glx kbd mouse record shadowfb

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1440x900 pixels (380x238 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#
# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
1724 frames in 5.0 seconds = 344.740 FPS
2472 frames in 5.0 seconds = 494.221 FPS
2455 frames in 5.0 seconds = 490.993 FPS
2474 frames in 5.0 seconds = 494.628 FPS
2422 frames in 5.0 seconds = 484.251 FPS

-Computer-
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Memory : 1034MB (258MB used)
Operating System : Unknown distribution
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Sat 09 Mar 2013 07:50:17 PM CST
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Mesa DRI nv18 x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : VIA8233 - VIA 8235

Code:
-Version-
Kernel      : Linux 3.2.29 (i686)
Compiled      : #1 SMP Thu Sep 13 20:33:02 GMT-8 2012
C Library      : GNU C Library version 2.15 (stable)
Default C Compiler      : Unknown
Distribution      : Unknown distribution
-Current Session-
Computer Name      : puppypc8800
User Name      : root (root)
Home Directory      : /root
Desktop Environment      : Unknown (Window Manager: JWM)
-Misc-
Uptime      : 2 hours, 30 minutes
Load Average      : 0.70, 0.46, 0.22


Added the trash fix pet and changed SeaMonkey to 2.16.1. Looks really good so far.
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Billtoo


Joined: 07 Apr 2009
Posts: 2057
Location: Ontario Canada

PostPosted: Sun 10 Mar 2013, 00:25    Post subject: Precise Puppy 5.5, released March 9, 2013  

Running a remastered precise 5.5 from an 8gb SDHC card, using grub4dos
as the bootloader, running on a Gateway desktop pc.
video-info-glx 1.5.1 Sat 9 Mar 2013 on Precise Puppy 5.5 Linux 3.2.29 i686
0.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF114 [GeForce GTX 560 Ti]
oem: NVIDIA
product: GF110 Board - 12630002 Chip Rev
X Server: Xorg Driver: nvidia
X.Org version: 1.11.3
dimensions: 3840x1080 pixels (1027x292 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: GeForce GTX 560 Ti/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL version string: 4.3.0 NVIDIA 310.40
# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
303 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.504 FPS
301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.001 FPS
301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.001 FPS
Network controller Ralink corp. RT3090 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe
I used SNS to setup the wireless connection.

No Problems, thanks for Precise 5.5
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Ted Dog


Joined: 13 Sep 2005
Posts: 2298
Location: Heart of Texas

PostPosted: Sun 10 Mar 2013, 01:22    Post subject: touchpad frozen first three boots, battery life worst  

Biggest issue is my laptop is becoming a toaster and a 10hr rated battery (when new Confused ) only lasts 30 mins on this version. Please review the overheating posts on the forum.
However the wallpaper and default settings are good. I will check if the shutdown corruption bug reappears like RC

OK shutdown corruption bug has not occurred,

And the kill X keys Ctrl-Alt-Backspace drops to commandline, without automagically restarting X works again

So I can reboot without corrupting savefile, when the touchpad is frozen at boot which is 75% of the time. Crying or Very sad

Due to the overheating even with 'governers on', and unfixed frozen mouse issue, I'll have to pass on this version. Mad
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Kerry Blue

Joined: 19 May 2012
Posts: 24

PostPosted: Sun 10 Mar 2013, 03:44    Post subject:  

I can't get sound with any release of Precise. I also tried Saluki and Racy, but sound is not supported. There's no technical problem with the computer, since sound works under Linux Mint..

I tried the Muliple Card setup, but that didn't solve anything. The sound tray icon gives 65295% btw and the soundbar can't be lowered . (No sound, though)

-Card 0 : Generic (HD-audio-generic), device 3 :HDMI 0 ( HDMI 0)
-Card 1 : Generic_1 (HD-audio-generic), device 0 : ALC662 rev3 Analog)
-Card 1 : Generic_1 (HD-audio-generic), device a1: ALC662 rev3 Digital)

I have a AMD E2-1800 based computer with Radeon HD 7340 graphics

The Alsa Mixer Gui shows:2 seperate entries:
1) Card HD Audio Generic.
-I can adjust PCM of that entry
-IE958 (can't adjust anything there)

2) CHIP: ATI R6xx HDMi: nothing graphical I can adjust underneath this.

When I run Alsawizard, I see this:
hda-intel : AMD Hudson Azalia controller (rev 01)
legacy (when I ty this option, I see : no modules found)
usb audio
aoa


Linux mint lists the following info :
PCi devices: Audio device: AMD nee ATI Wrestler HDMI Audio (Radeon HD 6250/6310)
Kernel Modules :
-snd_hda_codec_realtek
-snd_hda_codec_hdmi
-snd_hda_intel
-snd_hda_codec
-snd_hwdep
-snd_pcm
-kvm_amd
-snd_seq_midi
-kvm
-snd_rawmidi
-snd_seq_midi_event

After installing the Gimp and some Pets like Firefox and Mozilla, I now also see missing dependencies btw. These can't be located in the repo's.

Kerry Blue
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Sage

Joined: 04 Oct 2005
Posts: 4776
Location: GB

PostPosted: Sun 10 Mar 2013, 06:13    Post subject:  

Exceptionally long boot-up time >2mins. Otherwise, agree with James (my XP2800clockedXP3000) - everything works sound, video, connection, Flash OOTB - oh yes, and Opera (from DEB-Other)! Would be nice to have a better selection of wallpapers, like Slacko, eg bring back guy-on-a-bike, NASA Earth-rise, maybe some of the excellent ones used by James/Bill?
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Billtoo


Joined: 07 Apr 2009
Posts: 2057
Location: Ontario Canada

PostPosted: Sun 10 Mar 2013, 08:51    Post subject: Precise Puppy 5.5, released March 9, 2013  

Running a remastered precise 5.5 from an 8gb SDHC card,using grub4dos
as the bootloader,running on an Acer desktop pc.

video-info-glx 1.5.1 Sun 10 Mar 2013 on Precise Puppy 5.5 Linux 3.2.29 i686
0.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation G84 [GeForce 8600 GT]
oem: NVIDIA
product: G84 Board - p402h00 Chip Rev
X Server: Xorg Driver: nvidia
X.Org version: 1.11.3
dimensions: 1440x900 pixels (373x231 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 8600 GT/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL version string: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 310.40
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz
Core 0: @1603 1: @1603 2: @1603 3: @1603 MHz
Memory 8310MB (179MB used)

Precise 5.5 works well on this pc.
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Billtoo


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Location: Ontario Canada

PostPosted: Sun 10 Mar 2013, 10:33    Post subject: Precise Puppy 5.5, released March 9, 2013  

Running a remastered precise 5.5 from a 16gb SDHC card,using grub4dos as
the bootloader,running on an Acer netbook pc.

video-info-glx 1.5.1 Sun 10 Mar 2013 on Precise Puppy 5.5 Linux 3.2.29 i686
5.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS880M
[Mobility Radeon HD 4200 Series]
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS
product: RS880M 01.00
X Server: Xorg Driver: fglrx
X.Org version: 1.11.3
dimensions: 1024x600 pixels (270x158 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: ATI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4200 Series
OpenGL version string: 3.3.11672 Compatibility Profile Context
AMD Athlon(tm) II Neo K125 Processor
Core 0: @1695 MHz
# glxgears
8573 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1714.424 FPS
8133 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1626.379 FPS
8618 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1723.459 FPS
Network controller Broadcom Corporation BCM43225 802.11b/g/n (rev 01)

I used SNS to setup the wireless connection.
No problems so far.
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Sage

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Posts: 4776
Location: GB

PostPosted: Sun 10 Mar 2013, 13:43    Post subject:  

Billtoo: what sort of boot times are you getting on single core machines? or, indeed, multiple cores ones? Notice any significant increase from earlier releases?
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Hogweed

Joined: 12 Feb 2011
Posts: 96

PostPosted: Sun 10 Mar 2013, 13:50    Post subject:  

Do I understand correctly that there is no more "Retro" Precise Puppy? That is those of us on non PAE hardware have just been dropped? Well told that there might be a release sometime by somebody (no offence but not an"Official" release) that might be a Precise based Puppy based on 5.5 with non-PAE kernel? But even that might not happen?

I've been using Lupu for the last 2 years on this 2005 1.4Ghz Pentium M laptop (no PAE). A couple of months ago I looked at what was available as I wanted to update and picked Retro Precise 5.4.3 (which Barry had just announced ( http://bkhome.org/blog2/?viewDetailed=00070 )with expected future updates. Nothing in the release notes ( http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/precise-5.4.3-retro/precise-5.4.3-retro-README.htm ) suggested it was a one-off.

I downloaded to test 5.4.93 RetroPrecise (5.5 beta with devx fortunately) and have been so pleased with it it has already become my normally booted puppy. I suppose I can just carry on using it without problem as I can (and have) update any components as I need to.

I would however ask for a reconsideration of the decision not to release a 5.5 RetroPrecise puppy given that one has been previously available. There are more and later machines with no PAE support than is thought.

Or perhaps I just need some clarification/timescales on the future for non-PAE Precise users to put my mind at rest?
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Billtoo


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Location: Ontario Canada

PostPosted: Sun 10 Mar 2013, 14:56    Post subject:  

Sage wrote:
Billtoo: what sort of boot times are you getting on single core machines? or, indeed, multiple cores ones? Notice any significant increase from earlier releases?


Hi Sage:
On the single core netbook:
The normal 5.4.95rc live dvd takes 1:20 to get to the desktop with
"puppy pfix=ram"
The normal 5.5 live dvd with "puppy pfix=ram" takes 1:15 to get to the desktop.
The frugal install of the remastered 5.5 precise (700+ mb iso) from a class 10
SDHC card takes 2:45,it has a 1.25gb savefile as well.
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peterw

Joined: 19 Jul 2006
Posts: 66
Location: UK

PostPosted: Sun 10 Mar 2013, 16:48    Post subject: PPM
Subject description: How Impressive the PPM is
 

Hi anyone that is interested in the PPM and Mythbuntu

I have just installed this version of Puppy and am very excited about how good the PPM is. I asked it to install mythtv-frontend and it did! I noticed 92 dependencies before it moved on to the next screen. It downloaded them in three stages (after a download session, it then came up with a box with dependencies in, asking to choose the source and download - three times) and installed them all and it put a menu entry in Multimedia. That is impressive.

The only slight hang up was on group membership since I was not a member of mythtv. It kept asking if I wanted to join the group, stating that I needed sudo permission but initially did not give it to me. I am not sure how I gained the right. I just started copying permissions lines that mentioned the user name from a Mythbuntu /etc/group file to the one in Puppy changing the user name to root and suddenly it asked me if I wanted to proceed anyhow.

It picked up a backend without me doing anything and can play the recordings. I had to use the Mythbuntu Audio Setup to select the right driver.

I have done this on a Single Core Intel Atom board (1600MHz) with 1 GB of RAM

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BarryK
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Location: Perth, Western Australia

PostPosted: Sun 10 Mar 2013, 20:52    Post subject:  

Hogweed wrote:
Do I understand correctly that there is no more "Retro" Precise Puppy? That is those of us on non PAE hardware have just been dropped? Well told that there might be a release sometime by somebody (no offence but not an"Official" release) that might be a Precise based Puppy based on 5.5 with non-PAE kernel? But even that might not happen?

I've been using Lupu for the last 2 years on this 2005 1.4Ghz Pentium M laptop (no PAE). A couple of months ago I looked at what was available as I wanted to update and picked Retro Precise 5.4.3 (which Barry had just announced ( http://bkhome.org/blog2/?viewDetailed=00070 )with expected future updates. Nothing in the release notes ( http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/precise-5.4.3-retro/precise-5.4.3-retro-README.htm ) suggested it was a one-off.

I downloaded to test 5.4.93 RetroPrecise (5.5 beta with devx fortunately) and have been so pleased with it it has already become my normally booted puppy. I suppose I can just carry on using it without problem as I can (and have) update any components as I need to.

I would however ask for a reconsideration of the decision not to release a 5.5 RetroPrecise puppy given that one has been previously available. There are more and later machines with no PAE support than is thought.

Or perhaps I just need some clarification/timescales on the future for non-PAE Precise users to put my mind at rest?


Please read the Release Notes (the green section):

http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/precise-5.5/release-Precise-5.5.htm

pemasu is providing the non-PAE build.

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Ted Dog


Joined: 13 Sep 2005
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Location: Heart of Texas

PostPosted: Sun 10 Mar 2013, 23:10    Post subject:  

looking into battery and laptop overheating issue with PP5.5 The kernel changed its methods of dealing with these areas but the older methods supporting such has not made the changes needed.
It maybe a X windows driver issue, since my laptop governors was turned on.
Battery was shown to be defective (only 8% of capacity left Crying or Very sad ) when I booted a new version of Fuduntu (laptop tweaked fedora-ubuntu hybrid release)
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broomdodger


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Posts: 269
Location: Santa Cruz, CA

PostPosted: Mon 11 Mar 2013, 00:03    Post subject: precise hardinfo NOT precise  

Both Racy and Wary 5.5
Hardinfo shows the Sensors with temperatures on 3 different laptops.

Precise 5.5
Hardinfo has NO entry in the Sensor panel on any of the 3 laptops!

Bill
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