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keniv

Joined: 06 Oct 2009
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Location: Scotland

PostPosted: Fri 12 Aug 2011, 13:41    Post subject:  

Hello Bigpup

I posted after you post about ram usage and flash but I dont know where it has gone and so I am posting again. I noticed the same pattern as you did with respect to ram usage and flash also cpu usage was affected. I did try unticking the "enable plugins only on demand box" and this time the flash video on the BBC site played properly. I dont know why the sound only should play with the box ticked. However, this left me without flashblock on other sites. I seemed to remember with Opera 9 there was a flashblock which used java script. As I could not find this I have change libflashplayer.so to the one I was using in Opera 10 when everything worked. This one is 10.0 r32. This one plays the video on the BBCs site, the flashblock works and video on you-tube also plays. Ram and cpu demand is also down based on htop. It also still puts the video into tmp and so it is easy to keep a copy. I expect there will be problems in using this older version of flash but I have not found it yet.

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Ken.
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PostPosted: Fri 12 Aug 2011, 14:00    Post subject:  

keniv,

Thanks for the info on Flashplayer.
Seems like the developers of that thing will never get it to not make problems.

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Béèm


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Location: Brussels IBM Thinkpad R40, 256MB, 20GB, WiFi ipw2100. Frugal Lin'N'Win

PostPosted: Fri 12 Aug 2011, 14:24    Post subject:  

bigpup wrote:
For everyone who sees high ram usage.
Run a browser.
Run Htop program.
See if you are seeing the same thing I am.
Flashplayer plugin is constantly going up and down in ram usage.
This could be causing CPU cycle usage also.
More problems with Flashplayer. Shocked
Indeed I see this also.
I went to see the flasplayer website and it was mentioned to look at the preferences.
I took the flashplayer thingy at the right top of this forum but preferences are grayed out.
So I seem to be at a dead end.

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keniv

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PostPosted: Fri 12 Aug 2011, 14:37    Post subject:  

Hello Bigpup

Yes it certainly seems to produce a lot of problems. If anybody comes up with a better solution then I would certainly try it as I am a bit concerned about using this older version. However, with the older hardware I have got flash is a bit jerky in a browser. With this older version of flash I can start it then pause and minimize the browser then play the file in mplayer and it is perfectly smooth. There is an advantage to using the older version for me. I will post if I come across any problems with using the older version.

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Ken.
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PostPosted: Fri 12 Aug 2011, 14:44    Post subject:  

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Béèm


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PostPosted: Fri 12 Aug 2011, 14:48    Post subject:  

Béèm wrote:
Installed my usual way, FRUGAL Lin'N'Win.
Activated my applications environment, which did run without problems.
However 528 sems to need some more cpu cycles and runs hotter, as I hear the fan quite often. (running for the moment at 75°C and only SeaMonkey active.

Don't know how pemasu does it, but his latest dpup 5.0.0.5 runs much cooler and seems snappier.
I don't know if this is significant
2HD 528 kernel 2.6.33.2 graphic driver radeon
spup 312 kernel 2.6.37.6 graphic driver radeon
dpup 5005 kernel 2.6.39.3 graphic driver vesa (radeon doesn't work)

Could it be that the higher the kernel, the cooler the machine runs?

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PostPosted: Fri 12 Aug 2011, 14:55    Post subject:  

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I went to see the flasplayer website and it was mentioned to look at the preferences.
I took the flashplayer thingy at the right top of this forum but preferences are grayed out.
So I seem to be at a dead end.


There is this website for Flashplayer settings.
http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager.html

menu->internet->Adobe Flash Player Config

Not sure which one works in Puppy. The website info says the one in the menu should be the one to use if you have it installed.

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PostPosted: Fri 12 Aug 2011, 15:05    Post subject:  

keniv wrote:
Hello Bigpup

Yes it certainly seems to produce a lot of problems. If anybody comes up with a better solution then I would certainly try it as I am a bit concerned about using this older version. However, with the older hardware I have got flash is a bit jerky in a browser. With this older version of flash I can start it then pause and minimize the browser then play the file in mplayer and it is perfectly smooth. There is an advantage to using the older version for me. I will post if I come across any problems with using the older version.

Regards,

Ken.

Sometimes with computers and software, it comes down to what works for you, works for you.
May not work for me, but you are not me.

With Puppy Linux we have to live with the fact that it does not have every possible combination of programs and drives needed by every piece of known hardware, all preinstalled in the operating system package.
Windows tries to and see how big that thing is. 4GB and growing.

One thing I have to do with videos is to hold off playing until it has downloaded for a while, because my download speed can not keep up with streaming video speeds. Also changing the quality setting to 240p helps.

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keniv

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PostPosted: Fri 12 Aug 2011, 15:14    Post subject:  

The menu->internet->Adobe Flash Player Config seems to work form me in that I can delete the local storage settings. I have not tried to do anything else. If you delete all the previous settings I guess it gives you a "clean start".

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Ken.
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Sylvander

Joined: 15 Dec 2008
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Location: West Lothian, Scotland, UK

PostPosted: Sat 13 Aug 2011, 03:24    Post subject:  

I updated from Lupu-526 to Luci-528.
Renamed the lupusave file to lucisave.
Deleted the old SFS file.
Copied the Luci-528 SFS file into its place beside the lucisave.
Booted the Luci-528 CD-RW, and it [found the SFS and] updated the lucisave just fine.

BUT...
Youtube vieos have only images; no sound. Sad

Tried uninstalling the old flashplayer version, and installed flashplayer-10.3.181.34 using a PET file.
Made no difference.

Downloaded the tar.gz file for the latest version = 10.3.183.5, and copied the latest libflashplayer.so file in place of the old version.
Made no difference.

Anyone know how to get sound to work in Youtube videos?
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James C


Joined: 26 Mar 2009
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Location: Kentucky

PostPosted: Sat 13 Aug 2011, 03:38    Post subject:  

Sylvander wrote:
I updated from Lupu-526 to Luci-528.
Renamed the lupusave file to lucisave.
Deleted the old SFS file.
Copied the Luci-528 SFS file into its place beside the lucisave.
Booted the Luci-528 CD-RW, and it [found the SFS and] updated the lucisave just fine.

BUT...
Youtube vieos have only images; no sound. Sad

Tried uninstalling the old flashplayer version, and installed flashplayer-10.3.181.34 using a PET file.
Made no difference.

Downloaded the tar.gz file for the latest version = 10.3.183.5, and copied the latest libflashplayer.so file in place of the old version.
Made no difference.

Anyone know how to get sound to work in Youtube videos?


FWIW, no problems here with Youtube video on 528 (sound loud and clear) with SeaMonkey 2.2 and Flash 10.3r183 which is what was automatically downloaded.
Perhaps something got corrupted during the upgrade?I haven't had the best of luck with upgrades so I generally just do fresh installs.
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Sylvander

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PostPosted: Sat 13 Aug 2011, 05:00    Post subject:  

Yikes, wouldn't want to be forced to begin afresh! Sad

Would rather go back to 526 than do that.
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bigpup


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PostPosted: Sat 13 Aug 2011, 15:43    Post subject:  

Sylvander wrote:
Tried uninstalling the old flashplayer version, and installed flashplayer-10.3.181.34 using a PET file.
Made no difference.

Anyone know how to get sound to work in Youtube videos?

How did you uninstall?
Where did you get the Pet file?

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Sylvander

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PostPosted: Sun 14 Aug 2011, 07:23    Post subject:  

1. "How did you uninstall? "
Used PPM.
Clicked on the installed libflashplayer-10.3.181.22

2. "Where did you get the Pet file?"
Searched the Puppy forums and found a thread offering it.
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joe0855

Joined: 05 Oct 2010
Posts: 58
Location: Raleigh, North Carolina, U.S.A.

PostPosted: Sun 14 Aug 2011, 11:50    Post subject:  

Is there a clean way to update my 5.25 to 5.28? Could I just copy the save file from my 5.25 thumbdrive and paste it into a new 5.28 installation on another thumbdrive?
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