Puppy Stardust 003
I made up a patch for grayicon - it shows green signal when active and red signal when inactive
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Download okay now
Just downloaded 003 ok today.
Rgds
Mike
Rgds
Mike
Rob
I have forgotten the virtual desktop issue. - Sorry.
Now fixed.
Worldtime is fixed. I should have updated Pwidgets.......
I installed rox-right-click a while ago, and found it a bit 'overkilling'. Many icons did the same as default action in rox. So I grabbed a couple of Hairywills rox-apps and included those into Pburn and Pmusic.
It would possibly be great to include some of rox-right-click icons, but the complete package felt (in my opinion) more like clutter in the menus. Which icons did you like the most?
Sigmund
I have forgotten the virtual desktop issue. - Sorry.
Now fixed.
Worldtime is fixed. I should have updated Pwidgets.......
I installed rox-right-click a while ago, and found it a bit 'overkilling'. Many icons did the same as default action in rox. So I grabbed a couple of Hairywills rox-apps and included those into Pburn and Pmusic.
It would possibly be great to include some of rox-right-click icons, but the complete package felt (in my opinion) more like clutter in the menus. Which icons did you like the most?
Sigmund
?? did not know that...., hmmm so where the gtrayicon is called in Pwireless2-2.6 ??zigbert wrote:trio
.....but /root/Startup/networking is not existing in Pwireless2-2.6
I just wanna know what you changed......
Sigmund
EDIT: Got it - it's /root/Startup/Pwireless2 .... try this patch
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prehistoric
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What, me forget?
Not exactly.zigbert wrote:...
Did you forget the new feature in Stardust?...
I was trying to get at the problem for people who are totally new to this. If you automatically set up a firewall by default, you need to make sure people know it is running, and have some clue as to how to turn it off if they need to. I can't tell you how many times I've fought with computer systems where all the answers are obvious after you have some experience with it, but you never get the experience if you don't use it because of some feature you couldn't find when you needed it at the beginning.
One place where I've watched newbies fail to get Puppy going is the hurdle of initial networking. This is precisely where the mystery of a secret firewall savages them. Changing the settings on a router, modem or account is one of those situations that often shows up during initial setup. If they don't know the firewall is responsible, they report that Puppy's networking failed.
(You can argue that reasonable user interfaces, like the one your connection has, don't require disabling a firewall, but that doesn't eliminate all the unreasonable systems already out there. There is a flat spot on my forehead where I have repeatedly hit myself after discovering the cause of networking problems at a new site.
As I understand it, Norway has long had standard way of delivering reliable ISDN service for computer networking. In the U.S., there are technicians who start twitching if anyone mentions ISDN, which every "baby Bell" seems to have implemented uniquely. There are so many options I have actually seen two technicians call back to their own support desk for consultation with higher level techs before they could get a supposedly standard teleconferencing connection working. This was an initial connection where all equipment was supplied by the telephone company. When it was finally working -- a day later -- they admitted there had never been a fault on the line.
Pity the poor individual subscriber. I ran into one yesterday who had called customer support, told them they had a problem which required rebooting at their end, and got a tirade about how it was probably something stupid the customer was doing with their own equipment, and, if this turned out to be true, they were going to be billed for the unnecessary home visit by a technician. A later call to a different person in support got the connection rebooted, causing the problem to go away, as predicted. A field tech still showed up the next day, even though that call had been canceled.)
Several people I know have commented favorably that standard Puppy networking, crude as it is, "doesn't talk down to them". If it fails to connect, they can tell someone else, e.g., "it was okay right up to the point where I tried to use DHCP to get an IP address." Even people who never heard of DHCP or IP addresses can read the text in the window.
Most people, most of the time, won't need to worry about this. I'm just holding out for clues that will make it reasonably easy for newbies to find that button, and figure out that they need to find it, in those cases where it is necessary.
I hope you can forgive me for overkill in this answer. The obvious frustration spilling out was not your fault.
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prehistoric
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not an expert
Zigbert,
Don't consider me a networking expert. I have more experience watching people fail to get things working. Much of my computer education took place before the Internet existed, as befits my name.
I'm so far out of touch with current technology I've been known to make statements like this one:
Don't consider me a networking expert. I have more experience watching people fail to get things working. Much of my computer education took place before the Internet existed, as befits my name.
I'm so far out of touch with current technology I've been known to make statements like this one:
No computer network is ever completely debugged.
Hi Ziggy,
I'm not sure what you meant by icons. I haven't looked deep into it.
The reason I used right clicks is, it added the various options to the right click menu on dirs and files.
I wanted Geany in list and it is for right click on scripts in rox windows.
I normally use Geany to examine files but Mick has told me to beware of using on system files as it may cause corruption.
I'm not sure what you meant by icons. I haven't looked deep into it.
The reason I used right clicks is, it added the various options to the right click menu on dirs and files.
I wanted Geany in list and it is for right click on scripts in rox windows.
I normally use Geany to examine files but Mick has told me to beware of using on system files as it may cause corruption.
Rob
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The moment after you press "Post" is the moment you actually see the typso 8)
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The moment after you press "Post" is the moment you actually see the typso 8)
Just came across an anomoly or small bug when I checked a pdf.
PDF Viewer uses same font name as Micks weather font for pwidgets, result is all small print consists of weather symbols.
I can't seem to find an option to change font in pdf viewer although it's probably embedded in document anyway.
PDF Viewer uses same font name as Micks weather font for pwidgets, result is all small print consists of weather symbols.
I can't seem to find an option to change font in pdf viewer although it's probably embedded in document anyway.
Rob
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The moment after you press "Post" is the moment you actually see the typso 8)
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The moment after you press "Post" is the moment you actually see the typso 8)
Zigbert:
Would it be out of your province to consider for your splendid consolidated system-setting / configurations notebook, permitting the user alternative display settings of file listing parameters from Rox Filer?
I find Puppy's default Rox Filer List display to be awful: Type, Persmissions, Owner, and Group all occupy the center of the list panel, but they are what I least want to know. Horizontal scrolling is missing, and very long file names make scanning of all parameters impossible.
Your list display in Pfind display is much better.
Would it be out of your province to consider for your splendid consolidated system-setting / configurations notebook, permitting the user alternative display settings of file listing parameters from Rox Filer?
I find Puppy's default Rox Filer List display to be awful: Type, Persmissions, Owner, and Group all occupy the center of the list panel, but they are what I least want to know. Horizontal scrolling is missing, and very long file names make scanning of all parameters impossible.
Your list display in Pfind display is much better.
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prehistoric
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installing package, updating menus
Zigbert,
This may not be a Stardust problem at all, but I first saw this behavior on 003. I haven't done much more than notice this.
It showed up when I prepared to demonstrate Stardust 003 for someone interested in gimp. I installed gimp 2.4.6 pet, by clicking on the pet, downloaded from puppylinux.ca, but the menu entry did not appear. Nor was the installation shown in the bottom window of the PPM. I was able to start gimp from a console, as a temporary expedient for demonstration purposes.
Now, the strange part. I went back and installed the pet from the official repository, via the PPM. This works fine, but the graphics menu shows two entries for gimp, though both invoke the 2.4.3 version last installed.
Next, I uninstall that version, to see if this exposes a previous installation. One entry remains on the graphics menu, but does not work. This leads me to install 2.4.6 by clicking on a pet. This time it works as expected, and the menu is updated. The PPM also shows 2.4.6 installed.
There was a definite fault here which occurred when I installed a package by clicking on it. It does not seem to be repeatable. Has anyone reported this behavior before, either with Stardust or with the stock 4.3.1?
This may not be a Stardust problem at all, but I first saw this behavior on 003. I haven't done much more than notice this.
It showed up when I prepared to demonstrate Stardust 003 for someone interested in gimp. I installed gimp 2.4.6 pet, by clicking on the pet, downloaded from puppylinux.ca, but the menu entry did not appear. Nor was the installation shown in the bottom window of the PPM. I was able to start gimp from a console, as a temporary expedient for demonstration purposes.
Now, the strange part. I went back and installed the pet from the official repository, via the PPM. This works fine, but the graphics menu shows two entries for gimp, though both invoke the 2.4.3 version last installed.
Next, I uninstall that version, to see if this exposes a previous installation. One entry remains on the graphics menu, but does not work. This leads me to install 2.4.6 by clicking on a pet. This time it works as expected, and the menu is updated. The PPM also shows 2.4.6 installed.
There was a definite fault here which occurred when I installed a package by clicking on it. It does not seem to be repeatable. Has anyone reported this behavior before, either with Stardust or with the stock 4.3.1?
laptop's modem not detected by Stardust 2
I misposted a question, I meant it to be under the Stardust thread.
It is here.
It is here.