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Sylvander · Posted: Sat 21 Nov 2009, 08:39 Post subject:

1. Used wakepup2.exe to write the new fileset to the same floppy.

(a) When I had formatted the floppy in Windows...
When I booted it, the following error was displayed:
NTLDR is missing
Press any key to Restart

(b) When I had formatted the floppy in BoxPup...
When I booted it, an error beginning with the following was displayed:
This is not a bootable disk

WB7ODYFred · Joined: 13 Dec 2008 Posts: 90 Location: Oregon & Washington

http://portableapps.com/node/17855 Here at this forum a left a link to your discussion here. Sylvander, thanks for your testing efforts. I really hope you do get a single .EXE file to download that will install to a USB FLash disk and write a correct boot floppy, too.

This will make building a bootable USB Flash Disk while operating under WINDOWS a no-brainer!

When it all works properly, POST a follow up link to the portableapps.com web under the forum topic

For people who want linux http://portableapps.com/node/17855

Keep up the work and the testing!

WB7ODYFred

steve_s · Joined: 26 May 2008 Posts: 1543 Location: Austin, TX, USA

Sylvander · Posted: Sun 22 Nov 2009, 11:49 Post subject:

1. "we are missing a file. I can't figure out what it is"
The only file in the root of my WakePup2=(a) that isn't included in the root of WakePup2=(b) is...
autoexec.bat

I have given a copy of that file a zip extension [which extensions are allowed?] and attached it below.
Just download it and change the extension back to bat.

steve_s · Joined: 26 May 2008 Posts: 1543 Location: Austin, TX, USA

Sylvander, good catch, but that wasn't enough.

I realized that, just like copying the resulting contents of an iso image is not the same as reading a disk that has a burned iso image on it is, so it is with a floppy disk image.

So I ran a program that converted a floppy disk directly to an exe.

In Windows

Extract this WAKEPUP2.EXE from the zip file I've attached to the base folder in your system. By base folder I just mean the default folder that comes up when you run Start>Run and type in "cmd" (without the quotes of course).

So, if I type in cmd I might get a command prompt that pops up and defaults to:

Sylvander · Posted: Mon 23 Nov 2009, 05:27 Post subject:

1. The latest wakepup2=(b) works! Very Happy

2. METHOD:
Because this is designed [I hope] to be used by Windows users...
I did [almost] all of the work in Windows.
(a) Downloaded the zip file whilst working in BoxPup.
Saved the file to a handy location outside of the BoxPup file system.
i.e. Put it in sda6/00 [E:\00].

(b) Rebooted into Win2000Pro, unzipped the wakepup2.zip file.

(c) PROBLEM1!
Along with the wakepup2.exe file were 3 unneeded/empty/random folders.
I scanned E:\00 for trojans and infection, and none was found, so I erased the 3 folders [using Eraser].

(d) Opened wakepup2.exe, and it wrote the image to the [previously reformatted (in BoxPup)] floppy disk.

(e) Rebooted the PC [with the wakepup2 floppy in the drive], and it booted just fine and loaded the Puppy from the Flash Drive.

(f) PROBLEM2!
The Puppy wasn't loading any of the configurations previously made!
And when I shut it down it reported that nothing was being saved!
I wouldn't [except for very exceptional purposes] work with any Puppy that didn't/couldn't save configurations and/or new package installations.

steve_s · Joined: 26 May 2008 Posts: 1543 Location: Austin, TX, USA

Slyvander: first of all, thank you very much for giving all my crazy efforts a run. This can't be figured out without someone else testing it.

Problem 1 response: yeah, I made it in Windows, so invariably it adds weird other files. That's why I said just extract the exe file and didn't say anything about the rest; it's not needed.

I am thinking about taking that exe and seeing about putting it into another exe so that it can be loaded via a double click; don't know if that will work, but needed this part tested first. Now that it works, I'll look at the next step.

As far as whether or not Puppy is saving, did it load any kind of save file? Have we produced a save file with this version? We may need to look back to the original thread with T_Hobbit's comments and see if there were issues with this version creating a save file..if that isn't loaded we may have to track down the issues this version of Puppy on the usb drive is creating regarding the save file... Confused

Sylvander · Posted: Mon 23 Nov 2009, 10:57 Post subject:

1. I went into Windows and zipped up a copy of the wakepup2.exe file [with the 3 extra folders not included], to make wakepup2.zip, a copy of which is attached below.

2. I then extracted the wakepup2.exe file from the above wakepup2.zip file [the 3 extra folders were of course not present] and used it to write the image to the reformatted floppy, and booted that floppy.
PROBLEM3?
Yet again, at 1st boot of the newly made wakepup2 floppy...
The boot halted just prior to loading the files from the USB Flash Drive.
The 2nd attempt yet again proceeded normally to load the files.

T_Hobbit · Joined: 27 May 2006 Posts: 400 Location: Portugal - Lisbon

Sylvander · Posted: Mon 23 Nov 2009, 13:36 Post subject:

1. "Which FAT you have? More than 1 partition?"
FAT32, single partition filling the 1GB Flash Drive.
No pupsave being made [opportunity not offered], so not found at boot.
See screenshots below.

steve_s · Joined: 26 May 2008 Posts: 1543 Location: Austin, TX, USA

All right. Through a natural progression we seem to have two projects going on in this thread, all with the same ultimate goal: make it easier for Window's people to get Puppy going. One project: exe file to put a good bootable usb flash drive together. Very close on that one.

And the other project is to get WakePup2 in an exe file to quickly put it on a flash drive. Please to announce that, through the encouragement and testing of Sylvander, we now have that together. I took our successful wakepup exe file and put it in another exe file, so now it is accessable through a standard Window's double click.

WakePup2 as an EXE file for Window's
Download the attached zip file, unpack it, make sure you have a formatted, ready-to-go floppy in the A: drive, double-click this downloaded wakepup2-img-write.EXE file and watch it go! Cool

It will put the WakePup image file, unpacked on your floppy drive.

PLEASE TEST, Sylvander (and of course anyone else that wants) to confirm, but I did it, it works and boots on the test floppy. Very Happy

On this aspect of the project, of course, absolute prop's go out to the creator of WakePup, forum member pakt.

steve_s · Joined: 26 May 2008 Posts: 1543 Location: Austin, TX, USA

T_Hobbit · Joined: 27 May 2006 Posts: 400 Location: Portugal - Lisbon

@steve_s: did you use "dd for Windows"? Wakepup is a image writen to a floppy, right? Maybe "dd" is more case sensitive friendly...

@Sylvander: you're booting using wakepup, right? Are you able to boot some computer with your flash drive only? Maybe wakepup is passing pfix=ram to the boot process... or maybe this is just a stupid idea! Razz

steve_s · Joined: 26 May 2008 Posts: 1543 Location: Austin, TX, USA

Sylvander · Posted: Mon 23 Nov 2009, 20:04 Post subject:

1.
(a) Downloaded wakepup2-img-write.zip, rebooted into Windows, unzipped the wakepup2-img-write.EXE file and used that to write the files to the usual floppy previously formatted yet again in BoxPup.

(b) Rebooted to the new wakepup2 floppy.
This [as per usual][on the 1st boot] halted right before the loading of the files from the USB Flash Drive, but succeeded at the 2nd run.

2. "I noticed that although all the file names were lower case, a few of the file extensions were upper case: help.MSG, boot.MSG, and initrd.GZ"
Not in my case; all the file names and extensions are lower case. [See my screenshot in previous post]
And yet, still no opportunity is given to save.