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nosystemdthanks · #1 Post by **nosystemdthanks** » Sat 07 Dec 2019, 01:52

disciple · #2 Post by **disciple** » Sun 08 Dec 2019, 01:51

Sounds like https://www.google.com/search?q=%22unix+philosophy%22.

"If you're new to Unix, these principles are worth some meditation. Software-engineering texts recommend most of them; but most other operating systems lack the right tools and traditions to turn them into practice, so most programmers can't apply them with any consistency. They come to accept blunt tools, bad designs, overwork, and bloated code as normal — and then wonder what Unix fans are so annoyed about."

nosystemdthanks · #3 Post by **nosystemdthanks** » Sun 08 Dec 2019, 05:17

disciple wrote:Sounds like https://www.google.com/search?q=%22unix+philosophy%22.

"modularity" comes up over and over, theyre referring to the unix philosophy of course. the next most popular response is either simplicity or lack of bloat, which is related. modularity helps each of those.

obviously modularity is the most important part of all this. so if there is a fifth freedom, it is the freedom to swap parts in and out. but thats not always a thing, its just something you tend to have when the other freedoms are working properly.

Moose On The Loose · #4 Post by **Moose On The Loose** » Mon 09 Dec 2019, 14:35

nosystemdthanks · #5 Post by **nosystemdthanks** » Mon 09 Dec 2019, 16:52

Moose On The Loose wrote: I have previously suggested a rule that can apply to pets for puppy. We can define "works on XXX" to mean "if you take XXX fresh out of the box and install this, it works". Anything that requires you to first install something else doesn't get the "works on XXX" term.

a call to static linked binaries, then?

Perhaps the world needs a more aggressive form of "if it isn't broken don't fix it". Much of the trouble with software comes from folks "fixing" things that most certainly didn't need fixing.

agreed!

I would include in this the idea that "making it more modern" is almost always a case of fixing something that is not broken.

far too often, at least.

nosystemdthanks · #6 Post by **nosystemdthanks** » Tue 10 Dec 2019, 03:03

The freedom to NOT run the software, to be free to avoid vendor lock-in through appropriate modularization/encapsulation and minimized dependencies; meaning any free software can be replaced with a user’s preferred alternatives (freedom 4).

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