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Fishy

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PostPosted: Tue 23 Jun 2015, 23:08    Post subject: Up-todate
Subject description: JL64
 

Colour me clueless but is the iso on the g-drive up todate with all patches installed? Embarassed
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Dry Falls

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PostPosted: Wed 24 Jun 2015, 01:18    Post subject: Re: Up-todate
Subject description: JL64
 

Fishy wrote:
is the iso on the g-drive up todate with all patches installed?

No such color, or it's the one universal colour.
The iso is unpatched.

df.

ps, "Patch" is one of those multiple entendre words easily confused if we're too highly trained. I use the word in its most generic sense, like the artificial birthmark on the right side of an 18th century french aristocrat's face when staring in the mirror, but transfigured to the left when facing the public, ever fearing appearing on the wrong page (or thread if there's a taylor about).
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Dry Falls

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PostPosted: Wed 24 Jun 2015, 08:48    Post subject: Delta2  

The last delta file
Code:
JL64-603.sfs___JL64-603.sfs.delta
md5 checksum: 6f306551dc49acd16843a11a66ffad25

is uploaded to replace the former. It is 19.6M and contains all the previous patches and fixes. It is to be applied to JL64-603.sfs which is on the iso. The new initrd.xz file should as well replace the one on the iso.

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Fishy

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PostPosted: Wed 24 Jun 2015, 09:59    Post subject: Boot Issue
Subject description: Can not find JL64.sfs
 

Md5sum correct but all boot attempts stop at cannot find JL64-603.sfs. The same thing happened when I tried 602. Nice boot screen which goes to load drivers and then stops. The sfs requested is on the cd (burned with Burniso2cd). Fatdog64 and Tahr Ce all work fine on my box.

thanks
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Dry Falls

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PostPosted: Wed 24 Jun 2015, 11:06    Post subject:  

@Fishy: So it sounds like you did a remaster with the patch applied. Did you boot uefi (grub2) or legacy (isolinux)? at the boot menu screen, you need to specify pmedia=cd* (or pmedia=usbflash if you you're booting from a usb stick). On grub.cfg, that would be menu entry 3 (or 3b for usb). Otherwise, it will search the drive/partitions for JL64-603.sfs.

With isolinux.cfg, there is a mistake on line 54. It should read "append pmedia=cd pfix=ram,copy" instead of cd/dvd. Sorry about that. Here are the specified parameters for pmedia:
Quote:
Type of media booting from. Choose one of these:
usbflash usbhd usbcd ataflash atahd atacd atazip scsihd scsicd cd



*Lighthouse treats cd & dvd the same, so if you're booting off a dvd, it's still pmedia=cd.
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Fishy

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PostPosted: Wed 24 Jun 2015, 12:04    Post subject:  

Nope just burnt iso to cd like all others. Prefer to keep things simple which is why I use Puppy. Sorry, but if I cannot boot staight from cd or dvd it is not of use to me. In the past I used Lighthouse pup without any problems.

Good luck and thanks for the effort.
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Dry Falls

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PostPosted: Wed 24 Jun 2015, 12:26    Post subject:  

@fishy: are you saying you don't use menu options? Just want everything automatic and given? Then this distro is definitely not for you. Sorry to waste your time.

df
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gcmartin

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PostPosted: Wed 24 Jun 2015, 13:48    Post subject:  

WHat @Fishy describes is the SAME phenomenon I have booting JLH on some BIOS PCs I have (not my UEFI model). I think I reported this earlier, too. It is PC configuration dependent issue as the same DVD boots on other PCs I have. It drops out of boot immediately, with a message in RED, after it has searched for "... usb ... Done". (And, yes, my checksum (md5) matches for both downloads and DVD creation.) Its something that has been introduced but I am unsure how to trap and report the boot time problem for developer review. Selecting Prompt is not the way because it occurs when trying to load the system's SFS. Any Ideas to help isolate this?

Service Delta
For DVD users, like myself, what is the recommended method for the Delta so that the service is maintained across "save-session-reboots"?

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Dry Falls

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PostPosted: Wed 24 Jun 2015, 15:32    Post subject:  

Quote:
For DVD users, like myself, what is the recommended method for the Delta so that the service is maintained across "save-session-reboots"?

Delta file should, it seems to me, only be useful with a frugal install (to rebuild the base sfs file). Then you can make a new iso to burn a new dvd with lighthouse remaster.

If Lighthouse or Mariner (the originals) booted correctly on 'pre-uefi' equipment, I don't know what could be the problem, as I've changed or introduced nothing in that department. Tell me, was there a similar problem with k3.18.8 or earlier? Because I don't remember the problem being reported. That kernel package is still at gdrive. If I had an older 64bit machine, I could experiment. If someone would like to try this test, don't forget to swap the kernel modules inside initrd.xz.

If it's not a kernel issue, I can't imagine what it would be.

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gcmartin

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PostPosted: Wed 24 Jun 2015, 15:49    Post subject:  

Dry Falls wrote:
... If it's not a kernel issue, ...
I'm inclined to agree with you. Has to be something in there as by the time the system gets around to loading the main SFS, it has lost its ability to find it on the DVD.

Again, this only happens on selected platforms, not the others. The DVD does boot on the others finding all of its resources needed for booting. (Please remember that this problem is totally different from the problem I reported where loop occurs prior to desktop.) So this makes the problem unique to ONLY that class/model of PCs.

And, your question on earlier LH booting on the system in question, yes it always did. Now, I just need to figure out which of the 5 PCs I ran into that problem. hummm???

Edit: I just found it. It is still sitting on the screen where the abort occurs. It is an Acer desktop X2 with 2 GB RAM and a DVD writer. It is sitting at a prompt.

Is there any commands that you feel would yield useful information that I can gather at its current prompt (Remember, the RED message "JLH64-603.sfs is not found. Dropping out to initial-ramdisk console...") which anyone feels would be helpful???

I have used the same DVD on my UEFI PC without problems seen on other BIOS PCs.

Edit#2: I just did
Code:
# uname -a
Linux (none) 4.0.1-JL-64 #1 SMP Sat May 2 11:23:52 PDT ...


Edit#3: Same result. same uname report.

Edit#4: Used a JLH DVD I have dated May 20th. Same problem and same uname report

Edit#4: Used a JLH DVD I have dated Feb 28th. WORKS!
Code:
bash-4.1# uname -a
Linux Mariner15897 3.18.5-64 #4 SMP Fri Feb 27 04:49:10 PST 2015 x86_64 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux

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James C


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PostPosted: Wed 24 Jun 2015, 16:32    Post subject:  

JL64-603 live default boot on a UEFI box.Everything loaded into ram,straight to correct 1920x1080 desktop.

Code:
-Computer-
Processor      : 8x AMD FX(tm)-8320 Eight-Core Processor
Memory      : 8063MB (644MB used)
Machine Type      : Physical machine
Operating System      : Just-Lighthouse 64 6.02 MF
User Name      : root (root)
Date/Time      : Wed Jun 24 15:24:39 2015
-Display-
Resolution      : 1920x1080 pixels
OpenGL Renderer      : Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 0x300)
X11 Vendor      : The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter      : HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB
Audio Adapter      : HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
Audio Adapter      : PC-Speaker - pcsp




Was attempting to install SeaMonkey but the download failed to complete.Not the end of the world......
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Dry Falls

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PostPosted: Wed 24 Jun 2015, 19:04    Post subject: legacy boot  

Quote:
"JLH64-603.sfs is not found. Dropping out to initial-ramdisk console..."

at that point, reboot or poweroff usually results in a kernel panic. Time to pull the plug.

I just made a JL64-603g-retro iso with no addons so it's only 324M (no zwine either so you'll get the same red warning about wine. Pay it no mind. It'll just be the same as "pmedia=Pure64". The iso was made straight off Tazoc's final Mariner iso, only with the k3.18.8 kernel package and JL64-603g.sfs basefile. the 603g only means it has all the patches and deltas builtin. Tazoc left off the 32 bit lighthouse project with version lhp-503g, so there's a method to this madness. Either that or a false sense of optimism.

Anyway, I'll upload it either tonight (>witching hour) or tomorrow. See how that does.

@ James C. the latest version really does have fewer bugs. Next week I'll have v603g uploaded. Glad to see JL64 is working out for you.

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Dry Falls

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PostPosted: Wed 24 Jun 2015, 19:18    Post subject:  

James C wrote:
Was attempting to install SeaMonkey but the download failed to complete.Not the end of the world......

The seamonkey sfs at gdrive is made specifically for JL64. The reason Gslapt considers it upgradeable is that it iappears as a 14.0 build instead of 14.1. But it's basically the same package. When I made the sfs, I used the old version and slipped in the upgrade and made a few new symlinks. I only changed the version number in the package specs. To tell the truth, it's not a slackbuild at all.
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PostPosted: Wed 24 Jun 2015, 21:12    Post subject:  

Dry Falls wrote:
If it's not a kernel issue, I can't imagine what it would be.


I'm now tending to think that the legacy boot problem is not the kernel, but a missing autorun.inf file which was in the original iso. If the retro boots ok, I'll rebuild the new k4.0.1 iso from that.

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PostPosted: Wed 24 Jun 2015, 22:30    Post subject:  

I will test and report as soon as available.
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