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[Pizzasgood]

Using LILO (from another distro) to boot Puppy w/o CD
a.k.a. "Frugal Install," "Poor Man's Install," or "Option 1 install" using Lilo

To start off, I want to clarify that I am reffering to an "option 1" Puppy installation, as in it still uses pup001 OR pup_save.3fs. This is NOT for an "option 2" installation, which is Puppy installed to a partition.

This also assumes you have a working Lilo installation on a distro on your machine. Mine is in Vector Linux. You can either boot that distro and folow these instructions, or use chroot. For example, I have Vector mounted at /mnt/vector, so I can type "chroot /mnt/vector" and my terminal will switch to Vector's terminal with access to all Vector's software. Keep in mind you may encounter errors if you use chroot (though it works for me).

These instructions will work for Puppy 1 and Puppy 2. I wrote it for 2, but for 1 you just replace 'initrd.gz' with 'image.gz', 'pup_xxx.sfs' with 'usr_cram.fs', and 'pup_save.3fs' with 'pupxxx'.

pup_xxx.sfs, initrd.gz, and vmlinuz can all be found in the Puppy iso or on the cd. Mount the cd using MUT to access them. To get them from the iso, open a terminal and type "mount ISONAMEHERE /mnt/data -o loop" then go to /mnt/data to find the files. Make sure to unmount it with the command "umount /mnt/data".


Step 1
First, you need to choose which partition to use with the pup_save.3fs file. You need to put pup_xxx.sfs (pup_202.sfs for Puppy 2.02) there. If you already have a pup_save.3fs file or devx_xxx.sfs file that you want to use, they go there too. They all neet to be at the top of that partition.


Step 2
Next, go to the /boot/ directory of the distro that has Lilo. Make a directory called "puppy" there. Inside, place vmlinuz and initrd.gz.


Step 3
Okay, now open /ect/lilo.conf in that same distro. Add these lines to it.

[Wolfen]

Is there a way to install LILO in Puppy, meaning you are not depending on another Linux distro?
And is there a way to boot Windows from LILO, say dualbooting Puppy and Windows?

PS: Great that you have got LILO working, at least for your computer

[Flash]

[Pizzasgood]

Other than a failed attempt over the summer to manually transfer Lilo from Vector into Puppy file by file (as I didn't have access to a package), I haven't tried it. Other than this summer, I didn't need it. Maybe I'll make time to try it out the right way over the next couple days.

Mine is configured to boot Windows, Puppy, Ram-Puppy, and Vector. The lilo.conf looks like this:

[dani]

Pizzasgood, I followed exactly your instructions, but when I want to install lilo, I get the following error with the puppylinux entry:

[Pizzasgood]

Maybe the "label" entry is too long. Make sure it's concise. Try just "Puppy" to test it, just to be sure it's small enough.

Otherwise I don't know off the top of my head. If shortening it doesn't work, post your entry and we can examine it.

[Wolfen]

How do I install LILO, or where to get the the install-file?

[Pizzasgood]

I don't know. Installing it is still on my to-do list. I'm going to jam it in sometime between now and October, because if I get it working I may include it with Pizzapup.

If you search the net a bit, you should find some packages. I don't know if it can work with Puppy or not. It should, but it may need some libraries.

Probably you'd have to run "unrpm" or "undeb" or "tar -zxf" to unpack it, then either compile it or move the files to the correct places, depending on if it's a source or binary.

[Flash]

The easiest way I found to install LILO is with a Mandrake 9 or 10 installation CD. The real advantage of installing LILO that way is that you can use the GUI LILO configuration program in Mandrake - which requires a (minimal) installation of Mandrake.

[noip]

From a previous post...

http://www.murga.org/~puppy/viewtopic.php?t=6278&highlight=lilo

Rgds

GS

[gamfa]

If you load a complete lilo package, say from slackware, It includes a config utility called liloconfig, It's installed in /sbin.

[sisifito]

why puppy dont load my pup_save.sf3 ? in my hard dish i put all files needed pup_save.3fs devxxx.sfs , but puppy dont load my save file and when i shutdown de pc , it save all changes in my fat32 partition , but i have a ext3 partition

[Pizzasgood]

Are pup_xxx.sfs and pup_save.sfs in the same place? Is the partition a big number? I have a problem with /dev/sda9 because Puppy goes only to /dev/sda8 by default.

Also, if you have any Puppy files (pup_save.3fs, etc.) in the fat partition, that may throw off Puppy's search. Make sure the puppy files on the ext3 partition are the only puppy files.

[sisifito]

i had two pup_save.3fs , 1 in my fat partition an another in my ext3 partition , then i remove the pup_save in my fat part and puppy load the save file from the ext3 partition , thanks pizza

[Gn2]

http://freshmeat.net/projects/lilo/
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=how+to+determine+installed+lilo+version&spell=1

May I suggest: Get lilo source - then follow offical documentation for use;


Once the configuration is edited to satisfaction - any optional parameters etc.;
Install it to device of choice - that can be floppy {/dev/fd0)

Suggestion - backup MBR/fstab
fdisk -l > my partitions_date_xx.txt
less /etc/lilo.conf >my_boot_loader.txt
less /etc/fstab >my drives.txt
/sbin/lilo -v4 -t >what _if.txt (("test & query")
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