OS: Quirky 1.1
I use Dillo for 95% of the web for about three years now and until yesterday had no problems. Then I noticed I couldn't conduct a web search with Dillo. Whether it's with Dillo's own Google search bar or Googles web page. The symptoms are a scrolling URL window and a flashing "back arrow" (top left) and "contacting host" (bottom left). For instance, if I search for "autos", the following scrolls in the URL window:
http://www.google.com/search?q=autos&ie ... GhNuGjgPgO
I've tried uninstalling/reinstalling Dillo 3.0.4. I've tried the same with Dillo 2.2. I changed the cookiesrc file from DEFAULT DENY to DEFAULT ACCEPT. Same problem remains. I can still use my bookmarks or go directly to any web site using their address but I just can't conduct a Google search! I have Opera and Sea Monkey and they work fine. I have to believe that Google has done something that's inhibited Dillo in this regard.
Would appreciate some feedback other Dillo users out there.
Thanks.
Dillo 3.0.4 wary5
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OscarTalks
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Posting this from Dillo 3.4.0.1 in Slacko 5.7 and I am getting the same result as you if I try a Google search. Looks like this must be something that Google have done (or are doing) so maybe they will sort it out or maybe the Dillo devs will need to make some changes. I normally use DuckDuckGo for searching in the first instance and that still works.
Oscar in England
"OscarTalks"
"I normally use DuckDuckGo for searching in the first instance and
that still works."
Very interesting. I tried DuckDuckGo and it doesn't work either. But
then I've never used it before so I don't know if it ever worked. I can tell you that I noticed several years ago I couldn't reach Yahoo.com anymore. Used to check my emails with it also. And then it stopped working with Dillo. I think I'll notify Google and the Dillo devs to make them aware of this.
"I normally use DuckDuckGo for searching in the first instance and
that still works."
Very interesting. I tried DuckDuckGo and it doesn't work either. But
then I've never used it before so I don't know if it ever worked. I can tell you that I noticed several years ago I couldn't reach Yahoo.com anymore. Used to check my emails with it also. And then it stopped working with Dillo. I think I'll notify Google and the Dillo devs to make them aware of this.
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OscarTalks
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I recently compiled Dillo 3.0.4.1 for Wary5 which you can download from:-
http://smokey01.com/OscarTalks
The search engine window is set up with duckduckgo/lite as the default and that works, but I think you have to use that lite version in Dillo. You can enter this as a URL into the main browser window too and that also works.
Another option is to use startpage.com which grabs results from google via ixquick as a proxy.
You can change the search engines that show in the search engine window by editing the lines in dillorc
So for example, since the Google one has stopped working you can change that line to:-
and the Google option will have been replaced with an option to search via Startpage.
To add Yahoo Search you can try adding the line:-
http://smokey01.com/OscarTalks
The search engine window is set up with duckduckgo/lite as the default and that works, but I think you have to use that lite version in Dillo. You can enter this as a URL into the main browser window too and that also works.
Another option is to use startpage.com which grabs results from google via ixquick as a proxy.
You can change the search engines that show in the search engine window by editing the lines in dillorc
So for example, since the Google one has stopped working you can change that line to:-
Code: Select all
search_url="Startpage http://www.startpage.com/do/search?q=%s"To add Yahoo Search you can try adding the line:-
Code: Select all
search_url="Yahoo http://search.yahoo.com/search?&ei=UTF-8&nojs=1&p=%s"- Attachments
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- dillo-startpage.jpg
- Replace Google with Startpage or other search engine
- (60.51 KiB) Downloaded 546 times
Oscar in England
Thank you OscarTalks for recompiling Dillo 3.0.4.1 for Wary5. However, I've not had any luck installing it. It downloaded as a .gz file and Xarchive didn't recognize it. Same when I changed the extension to .zip and .tgz. When I changed the extension to .pet it failed to install.
As far as editing dillorc, duckduckgo/lite was already there and still doesn't work. Neither does startpage.com. But Yahoo Search does. Go figure.
I tried Dillo 2.2 and everything works, including going directly to yahoo.com. But Google search still does not.
I've never had any problems installing most files, including the old .pup format in newer Puppy OS. Not sure what I'm doing wrong but perhaps you could compress it in .zip or .tgz format. Then see what happens. If it's no better then I'm almost tempted to go back to Dillo 2.2, but I really can't stand all those "remote certificates" popping up all the time. That was the main reason I upgraded Dillo in the firdt place.
Thanks Oscar
As far as editing dillorc, duckduckgo/lite was already there and still doesn't work. Neither does startpage.com. But Yahoo Search does. Go figure.
I tried Dillo 2.2 and everything works, including going directly to yahoo.com. But Google search still does not.
I've never had any problems installing most files, including the old .pup format in newer Puppy OS. Not sure what I'm doing wrong but perhaps you could compress it in .zip or .tgz format. Then see what happens. If it's no better then I'm almost tempted to go back to Dillo 2.2, but I really can't stand all those "remote certificates" popping up all the time. That was the main reason I upgraded Dillo in the firdt place.
Thanks Oscar
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OscarTalks
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Since Google is not working I have re-uploaded the Dillo 3.0.4.1 packages with Startpage and ixQuick and Yahoo in the dillorc template instead, although users are expected to edit this anyway to set preferences after installation.
The package is a .pet and should download as a .pet file so I suggest you try again. Not sure how you downloaded but sometimes you have to right-click and save to get it to work properly.
All those search engines are working for me here. I did test in a fresh boot of Wary 5.5 and it seemed fine. The only thing was that without ca-certificates installed you do have to click the "Continue" button when the certificate is not found.
What result do you actually get when you try DuckDuckGo or Startpage? Presumably different from what is happening with Google.
The package is a .pet and should download as a .pet file so I suggest you try again. Not sure how you downloaded but sometimes you have to right-click and save to get it to work properly.
All those search engines are working for me here. I did test in a fresh boot of Wary 5.5 and it seemed fine. The only thing was that without ca-certificates installed you do have to click the "Continue" button when the certificate is not found.
What result do you actually get when you try DuckDuckGo or Startpage? Presumably different from what is happening with Google.
Oscar in England
Oscar:
I figured out why I had trouble with the Dillo 3.0.4.1 file, Opera was recognizing it as a .gz file. Whereas Sea Monkey recognized it as a .pet file. Strange. After installing it, Google search still does not work, and duckduckgo, startpage and ixquick do not work. Selecting Yahoo takes you to:
http://search.yahoo.com/web?fr=
instead of:
http://search.yahoo.com/search?&ei=UTF-8&nojs=1&p=%s"
but this page at least allows you to search the web.
Wikipedia and Free Dictionary work fine. Response from Google Help forums so far are limited to:
"It might be best to stick to Sea Monkey, or Chromium. This is the first browser I have heard of."
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I figured out why I had trouble with the Dillo 3.0.4.1 file, Opera was recognizing it as a .gz file. Whereas Sea Monkey recognized it as a .pet file. Strange. After installing it, Google search still does not work, and duckduckgo, startpage and ixquick do not work. Selecting Yahoo takes you to:
http://search.yahoo.com/web?fr=
instead of:
http://search.yahoo.com/search?&ei=UTF-8&nojs=1&p=%s"
but this page at least allows you to search the web.
Wikipedia and Free Dictionary work fine. Response from Google Help forums so far are limited to:
"It might be best to stick to Sea Monkey, or Chromium. This is the first browser I have heard of."
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OscarTalks
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What happens when you try duckduckgo, startpage or ixquick?
Are you just getting the ssl warning window?
Have you installed ca-certificates?
I have uploaded a .pet of ca-certificates which is a repack of the slackware package with a pinstall script to run update-ca-certificates --fresh on installation.
Google is still not working for me either.
Are you just getting the ssl warning window?
Have you installed ca-certificates?
I have uploaded a .pet of ca-certificates which is a repack of the slackware package with a pinstall script to run update-ca-certificates --fresh on installation.
Google is still not working for me either.
Oscar in England
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OscarTalks
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Oscar,
You're not gonna believe this but Google search is working now. It works under Dillo 2.2 and 3.0.4.1. I went ahead and installed the ca-cetificates.pet anyway. BTW, just what does this .pet enable? I checked back with the Google Help Forum but there was nothing further. Haven't heard anything from Dillo either.
You're not gonna believe this but Google search is working now. It works under Dillo 2.2 and 3.0.4.1. I went ahead and installed the ca-cetificates.pet anyway. BTW, just what does this .pet enable? I checked back with the Google Help Forum but there was nothing further. Haven't heard anything from Dillo either.
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OscarTalks
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The ca-certificates package installs a load of certificates into your system so lots of https pages can be viewed directly in Dillo. Without this you normally find that you get https warning windows popping up. You can click the continue button to ignore the warning when this happens but having the certificates on-board enables you to go straight to the page hopefully. Works for me anyway.
Oscar in England
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OscarTalks
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Yogi,
Yes, see above your post, I actually posted about it a few minutes before you.
Google must have changed something and sorted it out. We will probably never know if they became aware of a problem in Dillo or if it is just part of the routine development that they undertake all the time. I am still curious to know if you have been able to get duckduckgo and startpage to work, because they should do.
Yes, see above your post, I actually posted about it a few minutes before you.
Google must have changed something and sorted it out. We will probably never know if they became aware of a problem in Dillo or if it is just part of the routine development that they undertake all the time. I am still curious to know if you have been able to get duckduckgo and startpage to work, because they should do.
Oscar in England
Oscar:
Ixquick, Duckduckgo and Startpage do not work. If they work for you then why not for me? Surely it can't matter that I'm using Quirky 1.1, can it? I don't use those sites but others might so it could be a big deal for them but haven't seen anything in the forums. For that matter, nobody else seemed to notice Google search wasn't working either. Guess nobody uses Dillo that much. Too bad, cause I love it's speed.
Ixquick, Duckduckgo and Startpage do not work. If they work for you then why not for me? Surely it can't matter that I'm using Quirky 1.1, can it? I don't use those sites but others might so it could be a big deal for them but haven't seen anything in the forums. For that matter, nobody else seemed to notice Google search wasn't working either. Guess nobody uses Dillo that much. Too bad, cause I love it's speed.
If you are using quirky-1.1 from 2010 then it's likely Dillo 3.0.4 won't work.
You may need to use an older Dillo or a later Quirky like 7.0.4.
http://bkhome.org/news/?viewDetailed=00195
You may need to use an older Dillo or a later Quirky like 7.0.4.
http://bkhome.org/news/?viewDetailed=00195
Hmm pretty sure i was using those searches on Dillo when I was testing it...
Also odd if a system causes such a problem...but you never know with these oddballs as useful stuff is often missing.
By the way here is a build that should work on any puppy from 4 onwards.
http://412collection.neocities.org/internet.html
also note cookies are disabled by default...may be a factor...and no javascript. https 'should' be working though.
mike
Also odd if a system causes such a problem...but you never know with these oddballs as useful stuff is often missing.
By the way here is a build that should work on any puppy from 4 onwards.
http://412collection.neocities.org/internet.html
also note cookies are disabled by default...may be a factor...and no javascript. https 'should' be working though.
mike
smokey01:
"If you are using quirky-1.1 from 2010 then it's likely Dillo 3.0.4 won't work."
Dillo 3.0.4 and 3.0.4.1 as well as 2.2 all work, just not with Ixquick, Startpage and Duckduckgo. I can live with that. It was the Google search problem (which has somehow resolved itself) that started this whole mess.
mikeb:
"By the way here is a build that should work on any puppy from 4 onwards."
How is your Dillo 3.0.4.1.pet (646kb) different from OscarTalks version dillo-3.0.4.1-i486-wary5.pet (676K ), other than size and why do prefer it for Quirky 1.1?
Thanks
"If you are using quirky-1.1 from 2010 then it's likely Dillo 3.0.4 won't work."
Dillo 3.0.4 and 3.0.4.1 as well as 2.2 all work, just not with Ixquick, Startpage and Duckduckgo. I can live with that. It was the Google search problem (which has somehow resolved itself) that started this whole mess.
mikeb:
"By the way here is a build that should work on any puppy from 4 onwards."
How is your Dillo 3.0.4.1.pet (646kb) different from OscarTalks version dillo-3.0.4.1-i486-wary5.pet (676K ), other than size and why do prefer it for Quirky 1.1?
Thanks