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BIT METER OS 0.7.6 (stable) & 0.8.0 (experimental)
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Mike Walsh


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PostPosted: Wed 13 May 2015, 15:13    Post subject:  

My, you have all been busy bees while I've been to the seaside today....!

@Geoffrey:-

Goodness me; I shall to have to turn my back on things a bit more often if this is what happens in my absence...! Laughing That's marvellous, Geoff. How certain are we that this will run OK in the Pups you've tried it in?

@ gcmartin:-

As stated in the original post, there are 64-bit versions of both 0.7.6 AND 0.8.0. However, obviously no development work will go on with those if nobody's yet tried them. We need testers for the 64-bit versions. Install them (taking all necessary precautions, of course) from the .deb file; note what happens.....then give us all some feedback! That's what's needed.

What work has been done so far is all on 32-bit 'Pups', for the simple reason, I expect, that there's more of them in general use by the community. That in turn, is also for the simple reason that 64-bit came along after 32-bit; so in terms of what elderly hardware is in use, I think there would naturally be a higher proportion of 32-bit systems. As stated, I'm NOT a programmer, or 'coder'. I did, however, bring this to the community's notice because I genuinely believe that it does have a place for many Puppy users.

I don't have any 64-bit Pups myself to try them out in. Although I have a 64-bit system (AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+), I've always preferred to run 32-bit Puppies, for the simple reason that they run so fast.....and I'm not too keen on the likes of FatDog, et al. That's not to say that kirk & jamesbond haven't done some absolutely marvelous work with them; it's just not my cup of tea. I've tried FatDog 700 in the past; didn't get on too well with it....

I am, however, considering giving Slacko64 a try, so.....we'll see.

Anyway, it's just my bit to contribute to the community, since I enjoy Puppy so much. The 'dev' work, however, will of necessity have to come from other interested parties...who know what they're doing! (I don't mind admitting I'm very much a 'noob' at present.) Oscar, Geoffrey & mikeb have done some sterling work on this already.....


Regards,

Mike. Smile

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Geoffrey


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PostPosted: Wed 13 May 2015, 16:19    Post subject:  

mikeb wrote:
Just noticed the pet has everything as root.


That's my fault, I had a mishap with the properties on the drive, it don't seem to have been detrimental.
I might make another and see if it works the same with the ftp ownership, though maybe better to let sleeping dogs lie.


gcmartin wrote:
Will there be a separate utility for 64bit PUPs or will the 32bit morph into 64bit as well?


Only if someone with a 64bit version of Puppy packages the bitmeteros_0.8.0-amd64.deb, I don't have a 64bit version to try it on.

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PostPosted: Wed 13 May 2015, 16:28    Post subject:  

yes let the dogs lie... I was actually wanting to make it all root anyway.
Sometimes i find packages with odd permissions and sometimes it causes problems...in this case i suspect its not intentional or necessary.

Well all good progress Smile

been fiddling with Thunar of all things so left this on the side for a little anyway.

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PostPosted: Wed 13 May 2015, 18:11    Post subject:  

Mike Walsh wrote:
How certain are we that this will run OK in the Pups you've tried it in?


I think it should work ok, they were booted with no save file, installed the pet, run bitmeter from the menu and worked without a hitch.

I packaged the 64 bit version for gcmartin to test, changed all the files to "root" ownership, waiting a report

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PostPosted: Wed 13 May 2015, 19:06    Post subject:  

Tested results
Installed with no reports of issues to LxPUP64 and on an old nonsupported version of PUPPY Chubby. Both showed the Menu>Network>BM as seen in 32bit, and both would launch the browser to localhost:... But, in each case, the browser port would not open to BM's local page port 2605.

Edit: Lighthouse and its derivatives (Chubby is one of them) will install a ".deb" file. The deb works where the pet did not launch.

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PostPosted: Wed 13 May 2015, 19:19    Post subject:  

@gcmartin

I'll download a 64 bit wary and get it working on that, stay tuned Wink

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PostPosted: Wed 13 May 2015, 19:57    Post subject:
Subject description: bitmeteros-0.8.0-amd64 running in wary64-6.99
 

@gcmartin

I'm posting from wary64-6.99, bitmeteros-0.8.0-amd64.pet is working ok for me.

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Edit: Lighthouse and its derivatives (Chubby is one of them) will install a ".deb" file. The deb works where the pet did not launch.


Did not launch? from the menu or the pet didn't install? well if the deb works just use it or make a unedited pet from it.
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PostPosted: Wed 13 May 2015, 21:21    Post subject:  

The PET installs with no message of any issues on both systems. And, Menu items are created in Network.
GCMartin wrote:
... The deb works where the pet did not launch.
I apologize as this can mislead. To rephrase: The deb allows the browser to spawn to port properly where the pet did not spawn a browser which connects to the port. The PET's browser tab shows page not found while the DEB's browser tab in Chubby launches the tab as expected when started.

Also, on Chubby (when the DEB is used), I can search and find BM while on LxPUP64 I cannot find the BM task
Code:
pidof bmcapture
after Menu launch, even though a tab (which doesnt connect ) spawns on the LxPUP64 browser. Thus, something is causing it to fail when the PET is used.

I will try another 64bit PUP; namely EmSee's Ultra.

Edit1:
I found my EmSee Sugar DVD and booted it. After FirstRUN, I insure WAN was active and installed the PET. Same as before on the 2 other 64bit PUPs.
P.S. No firewall active at any time during any of these tests on the PCs.

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PostPosted: Wed 13 May 2015, 21:50    Post subject:  

gcmartin, I'm downloading LxPup64-15.03.01-hybrid, hopefully it will work, if not I'll sort it out, it could be the ownership I changed Confused , I'm sure I can make it work, here's hoping Wink .
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PostPosted: Thu 14 May 2015, 04:04    Post subject:  

Got it working in lxpup64, it was a path problem with /usr/lib64, in wary64 the /usr/lib is a symlink to /usr/lib64 that's why it worked.

Download it again and try bitmeteros-0.8.0-amd64.pet

The pinstall now looks like so
Code:
LIBPCAP=`find /usr -type f -name 'libpcap.so.*' | head -n 1`
LINK_PATH=${LIBPCAP%/*}
if [ ! -f "$LINK_PATH/libpcap.so.0.8" ]; then
ln -s "$LIBPCAP" "$LINK_PATH"/libpcap.so.0.8
fi
cp /var/lib/bitmeter/bitmeter.db.new /var/lib/bitmeter/bitmeter.db
/etc/init.d/bitmeterweb start
/etc/init.d/bitmeter start 


This script looks in /usr and get the first instance of the file which in the 64bit version will be in /usr/lib64

I updated the 32 bit version, the only difference is it checks if libpcap.so.0.8 is present, if not creates it.

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PostPosted: Thu 14 May 2015, 08:12    Post subject:  

@Geoffrey:-

Morning, Geoff. I've just installed Slacko64 5.9.1. Christ, is it fast! Now; as regards the 64-bit BM-OS; d'ya reckon your 64-bit pet will work OK in this?


Mike. Smile
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PostPosted: Thu 14 May 2015, 08:32    Post subject:  

No need to reply on this one, Geoffrey; I've just answered my own question.

Posting now from Slacko64 5.9.1, & bitmeteros-0.8.0-amd64.pet is working beautifully; no problems detected yet.

Thank you, Geoffrey. Much appreciated. Looks like I can add a few more to the 'working list'. I think I'd best list 32-bit & 64-bit separately, though; might get a bit confusing otherwise. Cheers!


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PostPosted: Thu 14 May 2015, 08:39    Post subject:  

I will most likely make and post working pet for 4.12, Lucid and other similar era pups on the 412 collection and add a link to it here.

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PostPosted: Thu 14 May 2015, 08:51    Post subject:  

Much appreciated, Michael. No rush, old son; as & when.

Remember...'slow & steady'. Laughing My life-long motto has always been; if something's worth doing, do it once, do it properly...and then you're finished with it. Nothing I hate more than having to go back and keep putting things right. Take as long as you need for testing.

Wish somebody had thought to remind my old man of that fact.....

Cheers.


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PostPosted: Thu 14 May 2015, 10:38    Post subject:  

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Remember...'slow & steady'. Laughing My life-long motto has always been; if something's worth doing, do it once, do it properly...and then you're finished with it. Nothing I hate more than having to go back and keep putting things right.

too true...quick fixes are not in the long run...playing boats reminds me of that one.
Sometimes I leave a problem for a week or three and surprising how much better the solution becomes.

Good thing you grabbed some seaside...today it was woolly hat and gloves time. You went to yarmouth or somewhere closer?

I threw a pile of leftover seeds on the garden yesterday...figured the rain would do the rest.... my attempts to get things to germinate is very hit and miss... might be the random cold nights.

There...I thought it was my turn to drift off...well actually take a right turn at Timbuktu
I also never noticed before how many nautical expressions there are in the English language... and it sneaks into plenty of songs too...

ok inflate thy chest and go forth

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