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stemsee

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PostPosted: Sat 28 Mar 2015, 11:50    Post subject:  EmSee-Ultra-etc.iso 18-05-15
Subject description: 4.0.1 32pae
 

This upgrades libreoffice to 4.4.1 and tor browser to 4.05. Adds Chrome 41. PPM 1.9.5, kernels 3.19.2, ThunderbirdMail, Popcorn-Time, Netflix, Conky.

gz compressed for speed. .. . but bigger. This will be THE last but one wheezy release from me.

EmSee-Ultra
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https://mega.co.nz/#!YV5Wna6R!zc8-S3CjfKnOagxdhVbXV-pipPQ2nokK2nar2-YTBVw

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LazY Puppy


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PostPosted: Sat 28 Mar 2015, 12:15    Post subject:  

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tor browser

is a crime browser - at least in the so-called free world.

Using the tor browser one will be able to enter a web within the web, where one can buy all sorts of weapons that one can't buy in a regular gun store. Not to talk about the stuff of offering sexual abuse of children etc.pp.

Also tor-chat is a heavily crime chat application.

I have lately watched a report about people bashing other people via the tor chat communication application.

It's of course much toooooooooooooooo ugly to repeat what they had posted/chatted using the tor software.

I have said it earlier:

- I do like very much what the open source developers had developed so far, but I HATE what the open source community has turned out of this.

BAN THE TOR SOFTWARE!!!

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PostPosted: Sat 28 Mar 2015, 13:21    Post subject:  

From the Tor Site "Doesn't Tor enable criminals to do bad things?

Criminals can already do bad things. Since they're willing to break laws, they already have lots of options available that provide better privacy than Tor provides. They can steal cell phones, use them, and throw them in a ditch; they can crack into computers in Korea or Brazil and use them to launch abusive activities; they can use spyware, viruses, and other techniques to take control of literally millions of Windows machines around the world.

Tor aims to provide protection for ordinary people who want to follow the law. Only criminals have privacy right now, and we need to fix that.

Some advocates of anonymity explain that it's just a tradeoff — accepting the bad uses for the good ones — but there's more to it than that. Criminals and other bad people have the motivation to learn how to get good anonymity, and many have the motivation to pay well to achieve it. Being able to steal and reuse the identities of innocent victims (identity theft) makes it even easier. Normal people, on the other hand, don't have the time or money to spend figuring out how to get privacy online. This is the worst of all possible worlds.

So yes, criminals could in theory use Tor, but they already have better options, and it seems unlikely that taking Tor away from the world will stop them from doing their bad things. At the same time, Tor and other privacy measures can fight identity theft, physical crimes like stalking, and so on. "
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PostPosted: Sat 28 Mar 2015, 13:40    Post subject:  

Help me!! , I can't find the iso Question
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PostPosted: Sat 28 Mar 2015, 13:48    Post subject:  

As you know tor was developed by the US Military. I certainly don't use tor for any of those things you mentioned, if at all, but I like to have the choice! I expect most weapons sales go on legally at government level. Weapons are made in factories which need to increase sales for their investors who are usually very rich people in the government and the aristocracy.

In the UK the police have 'cracked' the dark-net and seem to have fully infiltrated it, and mapped it out. So anyone serving or receiving child abuse images will be caught, but those who make the original material, and those who do such things (usually close members of the same family), are far less likely to get caught because the witch hunt seems to have been handed over to those very people. In addition in the UK we see that high level alleged child abusers (Prince Andrew, Jimmy Saville, Mick Jagger etc) are often protected by friends in important places. In addition the police are immune from prosecution, because they have servers full of it, which they use to inject material in any and every website that you or I may browse innocently, they simply 'need' to entrap the curious, and give them labels, whether or not they are a real danger, in order to justify the massive budgets and projects which are being funded by the governments, and the UN which is controlled by the Rockefeller and Rothschild's families, who started it. The statistics they quote state that 25% of those who see such material are likely to offend. I imagine there are a lot of officials who have seen such material and yet are not entrapped as they should be. What ever happened to 'innocent until proven guilty'? Now it is mostly vendettas, "I don't like that man, so let's tell everyone he is a pedo!" Without a jot of evidence, just hearsay. Remember that child abuse was occurring long long before the internet was around. I do not think you can blame the internet for the human condition. What we need to eliminate are liars. If the government invested in lie detection technology, it could solve all social corruption problems very quickly, but they would also mostly eliminate themselves and their need to generate warfare.

So if you are not able to use tor without buying guns or watching child porn then you can delete tor easily, or hand yourself into the police, or wait until you get caught. There are other valid uses for tor, which you can choose to ignore if you wish to be a sitting duck, unlike Edward Snowden. I have never bought a gun, nor tried to get one ... I have also never abused a child, nor tried to. But I remember how the UN did nothing about child sex slaves in Yugoslavia/Kosovo among their own personnel. And there are much worse things which have not yet been uncovered to the public concerning the UN and its lust for auto-liberty and intrusive domination of the world.

You can buy guns here: http://www.gunbroker.com/
You can also print guns with 3D printers. Or you can make them in the garage. Or you can buy them from German neo-nazis, who get them supplied by middlemen working unofficially for factories (Russian, Italian, Chinese etc) in order to shoot Turkish Germans selling vegetables in the street. The governments issue permits to factories to make guns ... guns are the governments fault, not tor. Child abuse occurs because people lie to themselves and each other. Let's oppose liars and lying.

Not using tor does not make you more innocent!!

You talk of crime. Crime is a matter of opinion and human written law. Everyone is a criminal, because everyone has broken at least one law. Buying drugs and taking drugs is illegal, but you did it! Lying is unethical, but it isn't illegal. Why not? Divorce used to be illegal and should still be, it is the biggest crime in society, unless the entire society is corrupt and worthless! Even the Nazis shot adulterers. Our laws are ridiculous and those who wrote them are hypocrites. Laws should be more simple than what they are now. Laws should be Godly because He made us.

Tor is not to blame for the way people use it. Guns don't shoot people: people shoot people. Most people use tor innocently.
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bark_bark_bark

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PostPosted: Sat 28 Mar 2015, 17:30    Post subject:  

LazY Puppy wrote:
Quote:
tor browser

is a crime browser - at least in the so-called free world.

Using the tor browser one will be able to enter a web within the web, where one can buy all sorts of weapons that one can't buy in a regular gun store. Not to talk about the stuff of offering sexual abuse of children etc.pp.

Also tor-chat is a heavily crime chat application.

I have lately watched a report about people bashing other people via the tor chat communication application.

It's of course much toooooooooooooooo ugly to repeat what they had posted/chatted using the tor software.

I have said it earlier:

- I do like very much what the open source developers had developed so far, but I HATE what the open source community has turned out of this.

BAN THE TOR SOFTWARE!!!


You're an idiot. The Tor browser has far more legit uses then non-legit uses.

stemsee wrote:
Tor is not to blame for the way people use it. Guns don't shoot people: people shoot people. Most people use tor innocently.


stemsee has at least that part right.

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LazY Puppy


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PostPosted: Sat 28 Mar 2015, 17:37    Post subject:  

Hi.

Sorry for my start to hijack this thread - it wasn't intended by me at first place.

So, first I have to say, that I don't want to offend and/or blame anyone personally, but:

There is something that we call in Germany a: Oximoron (don't know the English term).

So, asking for privacy in a public room is a Oximoron. There is no privacy within a public room. Since the internet is a public room, there is no privacy in the internet. Asking for it is just stupid! And nobody could be really that kinda stupid or naive to ask for privacy in a public room like the internet.

Ever heard the story of the US guy who has done a post on his facebook account being in the United States and when returning to the Arabian Emirates to finish his job getting arrested?

That was really a massive stupid guy!

Seems like he did believe in privacy in a public room.

if you want to have privacy, stay at home and stay offline. Or like somebody else did say: don't publish what you don't want to shout out loud in the middle of you home town streets.

I'm quite often asking myself, what kind of virus has been infected the brains of most todays people - especially the younger ones!

Privacy in a public room - really guys: that makes me laughing until my stomach hurts! Laughing Laughing Laughing

@bark_bark_bark

Go ask your parents for education and while you are there: ask them why they did fail to teach/educate you the right way! Wink

stemsee wrote:
Guns don't shoot people: people shoot people.

Charlton Heston on the National Rifle Associations yearly shareholder meeting. He also did say: only out of my cold and dead hands! Laughing

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PostPosted: Sat 28 Mar 2015, 17:52    Post subject:  

@stemsee: Are you going to provide some download links? Are you including a devx and kernel sources? There is something I would like to compile in k3.19.
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PostPosted: Sat 28 Mar 2015, 18:28    Post subject:  

rcrsn51

Yes, everything is uploading now, overnight!
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PostPosted: Sat 28 Mar 2015, 18:58    Post subject:  

LazY Puppy wrote:
@bark_bark_bark

Go ask your parents for education and while you are there: ask them why they did fail to teach/educate you the right way! Wink


I have an education and a damn good one.

It's not too late for you to get your fascist ass an education.

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PostPosted: Sat 28 Mar 2015, 19:11    Post subject:  

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I have an education and a damn good one.

Obviously not, as your two previous posts is showing! Laughing Very Happy

Quote:
It's not too late for you to get your fascist ass an education.

Go ask your parents for education and while you are there: ask for a visit at your Grandparents, so you could ask them also for education!

Probably your Grandparents can tell you the true definition of what a Fascist (ass) really means to be!

And by the way, when you visiting your Grand-Dad, since there is a good chance that he did fight in the 2nd World War to free Germany from the Fascists/Nazis: give to him a big hug from me and also a big Thank you! Wink

Stupid little boy! Laughing

@stemsee

You may ask Flash to put this whole thread into the off-topic section, renaming the title to Tor-Browser etc. and to create a new EmSee-Ultra one. Sorry for my first post hijacking your thread.

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PostPosted: Sat 28 Mar 2015, 23:47    Post subject:  

We use Oxymoron in English too, didn't realise it was in the German la nguage too.

Basically if we ban tor because of the disgusting crimes of pedophiles when genuine people are using for privacy in a public wifi situation eg. MacDonalds then where does it stop ban cars because Drunks who get behind the wheel kill people. Ban this ban that good old Granny state who needs it.

It is like the current legislation we have in NZ with regards to alchohol having it one area away from other products is going to make people go tetotal/reform their habits no it won't if people have it in their hearts to do something they will do it and banning Tor to stop Pedophiles won't solve the problem they have other more cunning methods.

As for your comments LazyPuppy about Bark's parents that is totally unacceptable and bad for the community.

You both feel very strongly but sorry LazyPuppy you won't win me over or anyone else with that sort of behaviour.
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PostPosted: Sun 29 Mar 2015, 00:10    Post subject:  

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As for your comments LazyPuppy about Bark's parents that is totally unacceptable and bad for the community.

You both feel very strongly but sorry LazyPuppy you won't win me over or anyone else with that sort of behaviour.

I'm not trying to win anyone over. I'm just processing free speech as it is that much put on a high level in the so-called free world. But obviously only if ones opinions are fitting into a mainstream or a majority.

I've been repeatedly bashed in this here forum because of naming bark_bark_bark a stupid little boy. Also for recommending him to ask his parents for education etc.pp.

Nobody ever has bashed bark_bark_bark for naming me a Nazi, Fascist, Idiot and some more like this. I never ever used such terms to name bark_bark_bark. I'm NOT a Nazi, NOT a Fascist and of course NOT an Idiot, but bark_bark_bark of course is still a stupid little boy that will change his mind when getting older and growing up in a manner that growing up would really mean. At least pretty soon he will change his mind if he will come to have an original idea to make money from.

This shows clearly what kind of mind most or many members of this here forum do own! Wink Laughing

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PostPosted: Sun 29 Mar 2015, 00:31    Post subject:  

EmSee-Ultra

https://mega.co.nz/#!YV5Wna6R!zc8-S3CjfKnOagxdhVbXV-pipPQ2nokK2nar2-YTBVw

kernel-3.19.2 sources

https://mega.co.nz/#!FQoUlCrQ!p08bzHwdjDvge1iWt07hUmXzWHxVbyLNEomnvwBt1o4
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PostPosted: Sun 29 Mar 2015, 10:33    Post subject:  

@Lazy_Puppy

Life is like that, I don't mind at all. I live in a part of London where people are often too reserved, too pretentious and too indifferent. It is not as though EmSee-Ultra is going to change this world we live in! Wink
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