Guys/Gals,
I wonder if you can tell me what repository has the Wine 1.6.2?? I have
come across Wine 1.7.4 and Wine 1.5.x in Puppy Package Manager but
according WineHQ 1.6.2 is the latest stable release.
And I also see on WineHQ that Wine 1.7.38 is Released. I want the
latest release that will allow me to perform legacy windows apps. And
so if 1.6.2 is the latest I do not want to install 1.5.x nor 1.7.4 which
appears all that is available in Puppy Package Manager.
On the other hand, the WineHQ website offers downloads and so I go to:
Download Slackware packages - binary txz (Slackware 14.1), and tgz (for older versions)
and download "wine-1.6.2.tar.bz2". But what to do with it ?? Is the
question?? I do not want to mess up the install. And I would rather
a clean install from PPM.
Any suggestions, references, directions are appreciated...
Where can I find Wine latest stable release 1.6.2?
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Clean Install of WINE 1.6.2
Phil,
Thank you for your prompt reply. Got your Discussion links and did a
quick review
1.) http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=88711
I looked at this a couple days ago actually, wishfully thinking
that I may be able to sift something (.ie Wine 1.6.2 as a PET)
from it but I found it a bit too rich in development talk for me.
2.) Tahrpup, built with trusty tahr packages :
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=96178
Tahrpup 6.0.2 seems a Window Manager?? Would it replace the
Desktop that I have? Will it offer me repositories that have
Wine1.6.2?
3.) Quickpet_Precise, install popular apps quickly :
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=83642
QuickPet seems an idea that may work for me?? I look up
QuickPet and find that SlickPet is the Slacko version and I so will
pursue this. My hope is that I will find a complete install of
Wine1.6.2 within it??
Thank you for your prompt reply. Got your Discussion links and did a
quick review
1.) http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=88711
I looked at this a couple days ago actually, wishfully thinking
that I may be able to sift something (.ie Wine 1.6.2 as a PET)
from it but I found it a bit too rich in development talk for me.
2.) Tahrpup, built with trusty tahr packages :
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=96178
Tahrpup 6.0.2 seems a Window Manager?? Would it replace the
Desktop that I have? Will it offer me repositories that have
Wine1.6.2?
3.) Quickpet_Precise, install popular apps quickly :
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=83642
QuickPet seems an idea that may work for me?? I look up
QuickPet and find that SlickPet is the Slacko version and I so will
pursue this. My hope is that I will find a complete install of
Wine1.6.2 within it??
on the page that i posted a link to ..... all those numbers are links to different wine versions .... 1.6.2 is here http://www.mediafire.com/download/49t5c ... 6_v2.2.pet
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wine-1.6.2-i486_v2.2.pet
Thank you again Phil for pointing me specifically to the file that I need. I was able to download Wine 1.6.2 and install the application using ROX-filer. And Slacko came back and said that the application successfully installed and can be found in the Utilities category and that no menu entry would be created. Hmmm....
However, I am happy that it seems that I have a clean install. But I have to wait to see it in action. I am currently pre-occupied with some of my other obligations and have not as yet enjoyed the use of Wine. But I have comfort in that it is at least on my laptop. There are certain legacy Windows apps I want to install and anxious to see them work. I will post my successes here....
However, I am happy that it seems that I have a clean install. But I have to wait to see it in action. I am currently pre-occupied with some of my other obligations and have not as yet enjoyed the use of Wine. But I have comfort in that it is at least on my laptop. There are certain legacy Windows apps I want to install and anxious to see them work. I will post my successes here....
For Wine the latest version is better to use.
It will have the best chance of running the Windows program you may be trying to run.
Do not get too worried on it being the stable version or not.
Make sure you have the latest version of Wine.
Good place to get Wine for Puppy.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=88711
Also, look on the first post of the Wine topic for a added program that puts Wine entries in the menu.
When you get Wine installed and the Wine menu entries.
Run Wine config to setup Wine.
It will probably offer you a few more programs needed for Wine to run properly.
Should download and install them as part of the initial config.
About specific programs running in Wine.
Go to the Wine web site and see what it says about a specific program and issues.
http://www.winehq.org
Using Wine is almost like learning a new operating system.
Takes a while to learn how to use Wine and to get things working properly.
It will have the best chance of running the Windows program you may be trying to run.
Do not get too worried on it being the stable version or not.
Make sure you have the latest version of Wine.
Good place to get Wine for Puppy.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=88711
Also, look on the first post of the Wine topic for a added program that puts Wine entries in the menu.
When you get Wine installed and the Wine menu entries.
Run Wine config to setup Wine.
It will probably offer you a few more programs needed for Wine to run properly.
Should download and install them as part of the initial config.
About specific programs running in Wine.
Go to the Wine web site and see what it says about a specific program and issues.
http://www.winehq.org
Using Wine is almost like learning a new operating system.
Takes a while to learn how to use Wine and to get things working properly.
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected
YaPI(any iso installer)
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected
YaPI(any iso installer)
Tasting the Wine 1.6.2
First I want to thank you both Phil-B and Big-P for your comments and suggestions. Every little bit helps. And so now I have taken more a look at the Wine since I installed the PET and surprised that I must find the files and figure which ones do what....
'Scratching my head a bit' wondering why would the #$%#@ not it be a more finished install with menu entries and a 'howto' guide with it??
Anyhow....
I search and find wine files in /usr/bin and just started clicking on files including 'winecfg' per Big-P. I left the configuration settings at 'Windows XP' selection. and did not mess with any other tabs. The 'winefile' app looks more like windows 3.1 file manager to me. And 'winemine' must be a game?? My guess is all the other files (files preceded with wine) are support, development, or environment related??
Of course, my objective with wine is to install and launch those legacy windows apps. And I am guessing that I can do this from 'winefile'? But as per Big-P there is some 'todo' with configuration because 'winefile' with exception to drive partition that Linux resides, 'winefile' does not recognize the CDROM nor any of the other USB drives, for example, I may want to put a USB to 3.5 floppy on one of the other USB drives.
Again....any thoughts, suggestions, are appreciated...
'Scratching my head a bit' wondering why would the #$%#@ not it be a more finished install with menu entries and a 'howto' guide with it??
Anyhow....
I search and find wine files in /usr/bin and just started clicking on files including 'winecfg' per Big-P. I left the configuration settings at 'Windows XP' selection. and did not mess with any other tabs. The 'winefile' app looks more like windows 3.1 file manager to me. And 'winemine' must be a game?? My guess is all the other files (files preceded with wine) are support, development, or environment related??
Of course, my objective with wine is to install and launch those legacy windows apps. And I am guessing that I can do this from 'winefile'? But as per Big-P there is some 'todo' with configuration because 'winefile' with exception to drive partition that Linux resides, 'winefile' does not recognize the CDROM nor any of the other USB drives, for example, I may want to put a USB to 3.5 floppy on one of the other USB drives.
Again....any thoughts, suggestions, are appreciated...
now wine is installed just left clicking on an .exe file will start it and install the windows program.
the install usually puts a launcher for the windows app in /root/desktop although these don't always work, so you'll need to launch the application from the hidden wine folder /root/.wine/drive_c/program files.
/root folder is accessed by clicking the file/home icon on the desktop (top left). show hidden files by clicking the 'eye'
the install usually puts a launcher for the windows app in /root/desktop although these don't always work, so you'll need to launch the application from the hidden wine folder /root/.wine/drive_c/program files.
/root folder is accessed by clicking the file/home icon on the desktop (top left). show hidden files by clicking the 'eye'
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an alternative to "almost learning a new operating system",or getting the latest wine which as it's a pet file takes a lot of space...take a peek at portableapps.com and portablefreeware.com
You find a very large collection of programs that will run under wine and have the added advantage of not writing to the registry.
You find a very large collection of programs that will run under wine and have the added advantage of not writing to the registry.
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rc2o2w, you mentioned difficulty getting wine to recognize usb and cd-rom drives.
If you want to use 'winefile' to navigate, install, and launch applications, then I recommend the following:
run 'winecfg' ->
'Drives' tab ->
'Add...' ->
choose a letter ->
either use the 'Path:' field or click 'Browse...' ->
input/type, or browse to, the path to your usb drive when mounted or the cd-rom drive when mounted (e.g '/mnt/sr0')
Optional(?) : 'Show Advanced' -> 'Type:' -> 'CD-ROM'
more information:
How do I run an installer using Wine?
If you want to use 'winefile' to navigate, install, and launch applications, then I recommend the following:
run 'winecfg' ->
'Drives' tab ->
'Add...' ->
choose a letter ->
either use the 'Path:' field or click 'Browse...' ->
input/type, or browse to, the path to your usb drive when mounted or the cd-rom drive when mounted (e.g '/mnt/sr0')
Optional(?) : 'Show Advanced' -> 'Type:' -> 'CD-ROM'
more information:
How do I run an installer using Wine?
Sipping the Wine
First I am happy to see so many replies on the subject and it is a big help to me. Thank you Phil-B, Big-P, TLC, and Version for your most recent replies.
Since my last reply I have created a desktop Icon and Menu entry for Wine but I have not as yet installed any windows apps nor connected the 3.5 floppy. These things will come after I can get the CD to run reliably.
Right now the CDROM is accessible from Wine and right now Slacko has mounted the CD at '/mnt/sr0'. It seems that if I boot the computer into Slacko without a CD and then put a CD in the slot then Slacko mounts the CD at '/root/.pup_event/drive_sr0' If the CD is already installed and I boot the computer then Slacko mounts it at '/mnt/sr0'. The '/mnt/sr0' is where I recall Slacko mounting the CDROM since I can remember running Slacko Not sure when exactly the '/root/.pup_event/drive_sr0' thing came into play. That is I think there is a possibility that by installing Wine this change may have occurred but I was just not paying that close attention to the CD and so I am not sure if the CD problem was installing the Wine or something else I may have done.
Of course when the CD is mounted at '/root/.pup_event/drive_sr0' it is inaccessible, that is, the files that I know are on the CD are not there and instead a couple other files appear that I have failed to write down nor can I recall their names right at the moment. This is both from Wine or ROXFiler. And now that it is working I don't want to take the chance to find out.....Laughs....But the next time it happens I will copy down the names of the files. Possibly I can command the boot to mount the cd at /mnt/sr0 everytime??
Since my last reply I have created a desktop Icon and Menu entry for Wine but I have not as yet installed any windows apps nor connected the 3.5 floppy. These things will come after I can get the CD to run reliably.
Right now the CDROM is accessible from Wine and right now Slacko has mounted the CD at '/mnt/sr0'. It seems that if I boot the computer into Slacko without a CD and then put a CD in the slot then Slacko mounts the CD at '/root/.pup_event/drive_sr0' If the CD is already installed and I boot the computer then Slacko mounts it at '/mnt/sr0'. The '/mnt/sr0' is where I recall Slacko mounting the CDROM since I can remember running Slacko Not sure when exactly the '/root/.pup_event/drive_sr0' thing came into play. That is I think there is a possibility that by installing Wine this change may have occurred but I was just not paying that close attention to the CD and so I am not sure if the CD problem was installing the Wine or something else I may have done.
Of course when the CD is mounted at '/root/.pup_event/drive_sr0' it is inaccessible, that is, the files that I know are on the CD are not there and instead a couple other files appear that I have failed to write down nor can I recall their names right at the moment. This is both from Wine or ROXFiler. And now that it is working I don't want to take the chance to find out.....Laughs....But the next time it happens I will copy down the names of the files. Possibly I can command the boot to mount the cd at /mnt/sr0 everytime??
This pet will install Wine to the menu
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 535#640535
You need to reread my earlier post.
I do not think you did follow what I told you.
In Wine Config
Look at all the tabs
The driver tab
Click on Autodetect so all the drives get found and setup to use.
The Wine web site has a manual on using Wine.
https://www.winehq.org/site/docs/wineusr-guide/index
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 535#640535
You need to reread my earlier post.
I do not think you did follow what I told you.
In Wine Config
Look at all the tabs
The driver tab
Click on Autodetect so all the drives get found and setup to use.
The Wine web site has a manual on using Wine.
https://www.winehq.org/site/docs/wineusr-guide/index
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected
YaPI(any iso installer)
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected
YaPI(any iso installer)
Still Sipping Wine
MikesLr!!
You gotta eat when You Drink Right!?
Anyhow, I want to say that was quite an interesting read MikesLr! Thank you for the 'how to'. And I must also say a lot for me to digest at the immediate time. I sort of have a personal as well as business objective to get a smooth Wine going and in the end have some very old Windows apps/games running again....."Is all I can say about That" for the moment and is my drive to use what's known as the latest stable release. Laughs....
But believe, I so completely understand your first edict which goes something like why run a Windows app when there is a good enough Linux app available.
Got it!
But, I question the 'portable wine' that you suggest is exactly the same Wine Engine as the "wine-1.6.2-486_v2.2.pet" that I installed? But with the added features that as an SFS will not fill up my Pup Save File and that it also has all the Menus and Winetricks once installed? Funny, but now that you mention, I had to add another 256M to my Pup Save file within the last couple of days. And now I have a 1Gig personal storage space and but only 80M left. And I have not yet installed any Windows apps. So, if my current installation of Wine is the reason I am losing Pup Save space, then this makes the portable wine attractive to me.
It seems there is a considerable amount of work/time to get it setup?? Hmmm...?
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No Worries Big-P...
Believe me, I read your earlier posts and you are right I may not have followed exactly your suggestions. I am reading all my replies, WineHQ, Puppy Linux, as well as straight Google search and I will just try something. So I will miss things because I have not yet drawn all connections of things out there and their significance to my objectives. And which is Big reason why I choose Stay only Slacko 5.7 and Wine 1.6.2 right now. Please know that your suggestions are good ones....so please keep 'em coming.....Smiles...
For example, I will probably try the Menu thing that you suggested before attempting the 'Portable Wine' thing. I now have a menu entry that launches the file manager right now. And two desktop Icons, one for file manager again and another for WineCfg....
On Saturday you wrote..
""
This pet will install Wine to the menu
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 535#640535
""
There is so much to look at that if I saw this link before today I probably just blew by it while looking for something else.....
However, I did edit WineCfg to point the CDROM to the D: drive. Version also made this suggestion. And when I boot the computer with a CD in the drive it works fine. It is just when I boot the computer without a CD in the slot that Slacko may mount it on Pup_event....
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Phil-B...
I have wanted to say that in regarding your original post
""
PostPosted: Mon 09 Mar 2015, 07:55 Post subject:
hi rc2o2w http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=88711
""
That I when i follow this post I end up on what appears to be
Version2013's website where there are many links to Puppy software
as well as a plethora of Wine versions. However, when I find/click on
1.6.2 it takes me to the following murga:
""
PostPosted: Sat 11 Jan 2014, 22:38 Post subject: Wine 1.6.2 Reply with quote
my attempt at compiling wine-1.6.2[/i]
wine-1.6.2-i486_v1.1.pet _______ puppy 431 | stripped=true | mirrors
wine-1.6.2-i486_v1.2.pet _______ puppy 431 | stripped=false | mirrors
wine-1.6.2-i486_v2.1.pet _______ racy puppy 5.5 | stripped=true | mirrors
wine-1.6.2-i486_v2.2.pet _______ racy puppy 5.5 | stripped=false | mirrors
wine_DEV-1.6.2-i486_v1.pet ____ puppy 431 | mirrors
wine_DEV-1.6.2-i486_v2.pet ____ racy puppy 5.5 | mirrors
wine_DOC-1.6.2-i486.pet _______ mirrors
wine_extras-v2.pet ____________ menu entries | mirrors
md5.txt and hashdeep.txt ______ mirrors[/i]
""
The "mirrors" in the following line is highlighted
""
wine-1.6.2-i486_v2.2.pet _______ racy puppy 5.5 | stripped=false | mirrors
""
But when I select/click on "mirrors" takes me to Versions' website again. Endless Loop.
When You gave me mediafire I was able to get out of it.......
On another note...I notice that when I go to "File -> Create Directory" the file manager responds with a PopUp Box that says "Not Yet Implemented". Does it stop here or is there an add-on out there that will allow Wine to create a directory??
You gotta eat when You Drink Right!?
Anyhow, I want to say that was quite an interesting read MikesLr! Thank you for the 'how to'. And I must also say a lot for me to digest at the immediate time. I sort of have a personal as well as business objective to get a smooth Wine going and in the end have some very old Windows apps/games running again....."Is all I can say about That" for the moment and is my drive to use what's known as the latest stable release. Laughs....
But believe, I so completely understand your first edict which goes something like why run a Windows app when there is a good enough Linux app available.
Got it!
But, I question the 'portable wine' that you suggest is exactly the same Wine Engine as the "wine-1.6.2-486_v2.2.pet" that I installed? But with the added features that as an SFS will not fill up my Pup Save File and that it also has all the Menus and Winetricks once installed? Funny, but now that you mention, I had to add another 256M to my Pup Save file within the last couple of days. And now I have a 1Gig personal storage space and but only 80M left. And I have not yet installed any Windows apps. So, if my current installation of Wine is the reason I am losing Pup Save space, then this makes the portable wine attractive to me.
It seems there is a considerable amount of work/time to get it setup?? Hmmm...?
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No Worries Big-P...
Believe me, I read your earlier posts and you are right I may not have followed exactly your suggestions. I am reading all my replies, WineHQ, Puppy Linux, as well as straight Google search and I will just try something. So I will miss things because I have not yet drawn all connections of things out there and their significance to my objectives. And which is Big reason why I choose Stay only Slacko 5.7 and Wine 1.6.2 right now. Please know that your suggestions are good ones....so please keep 'em coming.....Smiles...
For example, I will probably try the Menu thing that you suggested before attempting the 'Portable Wine' thing. I now have a menu entry that launches the file manager right now. And two desktop Icons, one for file manager again and another for WineCfg....
On Saturday you wrote..
""
This pet will install Wine to the menu
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 535#640535
""
There is so much to look at that if I saw this link before today I probably just blew by it while looking for something else.....
However, I did edit WineCfg to point the CDROM to the D: drive. Version also made this suggestion. And when I boot the computer with a CD in the drive it works fine. It is just when I boot the computer without a CD in the slot that Slacko may mount it on Pup_event....
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Phil-B...
I have wanted to say that in regarding your original post
""
PostPosted: Mon 09 Mar 2015, 07:55 Post subject:
hi rc2o2w http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=88711
""
That I when i follow this post I end up on what appears to be
Version2013's website where there are many links to Puppy software
as well as a plethora of Wine versions. However, when I find/click on
1.6.2 it takes me to the following murga:
""
PostPosted: Sat 11 Jan 2014, 22:38 Post subject: Wine 1.6.2 Reply with quote
my attempt at compiling wine-1.6.2[/i]
wine-1.6.2-i486_v1.1.pet _______ puppy 431 | stripped=true | mirrors
wine-1.6.2-i486_v1.2.pet _______ puppy 431 | stripped=false | mirrors
wine-1.6.2-i486_v2.1.pet _______ racy puppy 5.5 | stripped=true | mirrors
wine-1.6.2-i486_v2.2.pet _______ racy puppy 5.5 | stripped=false | mirrors
wine_DEV-1.6.2-i486_v1.pet ____ puppy 431 | mirrors
wine_DEV-1.6.2-i486_v2.pet ____ racy puppy 5.5 | mirrors
wine_DOC-1.6.2-i486.pet _______ mirrors
wine_extras-v2.pet ____________ menu entries | mirrors
md5.txt and hashdeep.txt ______ mirrors[/i]
""
The "mirrors" in the following line is highlighted
""
wine-1.6.2-i486_v2.2.pet _______ racy puppy 5.5 | stripped=false | mirrors
""
But when I select/click on "mirrors" takes me to Versions' website again. Endless Loop.
When You gave me mediafire I was able to get out of it.......
On another note...I notice that when I go to "File -> Create Directory" the file manager responds with a PopUp Box that says "Not Yet Implemented". Does it stop here or is there an add-on out there that will allow Wine to create a directory??
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Re: Still Sipping Wine
rc2o2w wrote:
But, I question the 'portable wine' that you suggest is exactly the same Wine Engine as the "wine-1.6.2-486_v2.2.pet" that I installed? But with the added features that as an SFS will not fill up my Pup Save File and that it also has all the Menus and Winetricks once installed? Funny, but now that you mention, I had to add another 256M to my Pup Save file within the last couple of days. And now I have a 1Gig personal storage space and but only 80M left. And I have not yet installed any Windows apps. So, if my current installation of Wine is the reason I am losing Pup Save space, then this makes the portable wine attractive to me.
It seems there is a considerable amount of work/time to get it setup?? Hmmm...?
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Phil-B...
I have wanted to say that in regarding your original post
""
PostPosted: Mon 09 Mar 2015, 07:55 Post subject:
hi rc2o2w http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=88711
""
That I when i follow this post I end up on what appears to be
Version2013's website where there are many links to Puppy software
as well as a plethora of Wine versions. However, when I find/click on
1.6.2 it takes me to the following murga:
""
PostPosted: Sat 11 Jan 2014, 22:38 Post subject: Wine 1.6.2 Reply with quote
my attempt at compiling wine-1.6.2[/i]
wine-1.6.2-i486_v1.1.pet _______ puppy 431 | stripped=true | mirrors
wine-1.6.2-i486_v1.2.pet _______ puppy 431 | stripped=false | mirrors
wine-1.6.2-i486_v2.1.pet _______ racy puppy 5.5 | stripped=true | mirrors
wine-1.6.2-i486_v2.2.pet _______ racy puppy 5.5 | stripped=false | mirrors
wine_DEV-1.6.2-i486_v1.pet ____ puppy 431 | mirrors
wine_DEV-1.6.2-i486_v2.pet ____ racy puppy 5.5 | mirrors
wine_DOC-1.6.2-i486.pet _______ mirrors
wine_extras-v2.pet ____________ menu entries | mirrors
md5.txt and hashdeep.txt ______ mirrors[/i]
""
The "mirrors" in the following line is highlighted
""
wine-1.6.2-i486_v2.2.pet _______ racy puppy 5.5 | stripped=false | mirrors
""
But when I select/click on "mirrors" takes me to Versions' website again. Endless Loop.
When You gave me mediafire I was able to get out of it.......
On another note...I notice that when I go to "File -> Create Directory" the file manager responds with a PopUp Box that says "Not Yet Implemented". Does it stop here or is there an add-on out there that will allow Wine to create a directory??
On my website, I use the greater-than (>) character to link to a mirror of the respective directory of files.
Example: to the left of "/wine/1.6.2/" there are two ">". Two different mirrors for the same files.
http://version2013.yolasite.com/page1.php#wine-1.6.2
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To minimize space used in my pupsave file, I symlink a few things.
~/.cache/wine
used to store wine-gecko* and wine-mono* files that wine looks for when creating wineprefixes.
~/.cache/winetricks
used to store the files that winetricks downloads.
I move those directories (and their contents) to somewhere in "/mnt/home/". I then create symlinks back to where they originally were.
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Symlink
http://www.linfo.org/hard_link.html
So Far the Wine Taste Okay
BigPup,
Thank you for the Menu Link....Works fine and with many more selections .... It even took my couple icons and included them in its list. I since deleted them....Smiles...
On the buggerhand, sometimes the Wine Menu Bar sticks to the desktop and the only way I can rid it is to Kill it...by selecting the left X and then Kill. Also the 'Wine Iexplore' does not seem to respond well. I clicked on it and Wine Internet Explorer opens and :
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Bad Request
Your browser sent a request that this server could not understand.
Reason: You're speaking plain HTTP to an SSL-enabled server port.
Instead use the HTTPS scheme to access this URL, please.
Hint: https://www.winehq.org/
""
is what came back. And clicking on the "https://www.winehq.org/" doesn't help either....Nor if I just put in a arbitrary URL like www.google.com...
Not like I need the browser in Wine....But It sort of remind me of the "File -> Create Directory" that returns "Not Yet Developed". Because they are there lead you to want to try them ....
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Version,
Thank you for pointing out the ">>" things. I saw them at first and figured it your way of bulleting your list of downloads....Laughs...
But...yes I clicked them now the see the mirror sites and download list and I also found the legend at the very top that explains the > and # signs.....
I will also take a look at your idea to symlink things ....
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Seems...I am missing signs and running lights as I navigate these streets and I really appreciate everyone's patience...
Thank you for the Menu Link....Works fine and with many more selections .... It even took my couple icons and included them in its list. I since deleted them....Smiles...
On the buggerhand, sometimes the Wine Menu Bar sticks to the desktop and the only way I can rid it is to Kill it...by selecting the left X and then Kill. Also the 'Wine Iexplore' does not seem to respond well. I clicked on it and Wine Internet Explorer opens and :
""
Bad Request
Your browser sent a request that this server could not understand.
Reason: You're speaking plain HTTP to an SSL-enabled server port.
Instead use the HTTPS scheme to access this URL, please.
Hint: https://www.winehq.org/
""
is what came back. And clicking on the "https://www.winehq.org/" doesn't help either....Nor if I just put in a arbitrary URL like www.google.com...
Not like I need the browser in Wine....But It sort of remind me of the "File -> Create Directory" that returns "Not Yet Developed". Because they are there lead you to want to try them ....
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Version,
Thank you for pointing out the ">>" things. I saw them at first and figured it your way of bulleting your list of downloads....Laughs...
But...yes I clicked them now the see the mirror sites and download list and I also found the legend at the very top that explains the > and # signs.....
I will also take a look at your idea to symlink things ....
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Seems...I am missing signs and running lights as I navigate these streets and I really appreciate everyone's patience...
Wine is not perfect. It does still have problems.
Very actively being developed.
They are basically reverse engineering a replacement operating system, working like Windows, but using Linux.
Be happy for what does work and keep checking the Wine topic for updates.
There was a time when most of this stuff did not work.
The Wine Explorer
I entered www.google.com and it worked for me.
It is a very basic internet browser.
I think it is basically there so you can go to the Winehg.org web site while in Wine.
Very actively being developed.
They are basically reverse engineering a replacement operating system, working like Windows, but using Linux.
Be happy for what does work and keep checking the Wine topic for updates.
There was a time when most of this stuff did not work.
The Wine Explorer
I entered www.google.com and it worked for me.
It is a very basic internet browser.
I think it is basically there so you can go to the Winehg.org web site while in Wine.
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected
YaPI(any iso installer)
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected
YaPI(any iso installer)
Re: Still Sipping Wine
I am a robotic encyclopedia. I don't have to eat or sleep.rc2o2w wrote:MikesLr!!
You gotta eat when You Drink Right!?
Or laugh. 
Or, some think, shut up.
A lot was "cut and paste" of previously written. Just trying to get everything in one place.
IIRC, both the wine-1.6.2.pet and the wine-portable-1.6.2-2-p4.tar.gz were the work of version2013. I can't think of any reason why he would have changed a "winning procedure", except as perhaps necessary to modify it to make it portable. My experience using both the pet and the portable is that they function exactly the same, with the exception of having to substitute wine.sh for wine in the latter if I wanted to write BASH scripts.rc2o2w wrote: But, I question the 'portable wine' that you suggest is exactly the same Wine Engine as the "wine-1.6.2-486_v2.2.pet" that I installed? But with the added features that as an SFS will not fill up my Pup Save File and that it also has all the Menus and Winetricks once installed?
Registration --see below-- automatically creates the following menu listings:
On System, Wine Windows Program Loader. This will load any program you installed to wine's false C:Drive.
On Utility, Wine clock, config, console, and control panel.
On Fun, wine mine.
"Installation" of the portable is straight forward and only take a couple of minutes primarily because it has to download wine.
Installation:
1. Download a portable wine tgz.
2. Left-Click it. Answer the dialog. It will download wine and create a folder. You can move the folder anywhere.
3. Right-click the folder, Select Register Wine portable on Menu.
Although I used wine-portable-1.6.2-2-p4, that was primarily because it included Winetricks, while the other versions available at the time of my download didn't. Since then, shinobar has provided on his thread a newer version, Wine_MyPortable_1.7.27.tar.gz by Akkie2, a member of the Japanese Team. It apparently includes winetricks as well as Claunch, GPad and some other applications pre-installed. I wouldn't hesitate trying it if I had any reason to rebuilt my setup. http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 297#755297
mikesLr
Browsers - Setting my glass on the Platter
Thank you....MikesLr....
You've got my laughs....you are now dubbed the "sleep Lacking robot" "encyclopedia", of course...smiles...
And to answer your last post...I will get to your suggestions....but at the moment I wish to turn my attention to other areas on the computer....but on the subject of Wine I see an entry for Internet Explorer and when I click on it it goes no where... I get a
""Bad Request"" and more verbage...
The Wine browser has no Internet Tools/Preferences option. And I do not see it
listed in Add/Remove Programs on the menu entry and so I wonder how to rid it so that maybe I can install an official version of IE....
Okay,
Maybe I do want Internet Explorer but a more recent Version because there are those websites that I have come across that seem to work best/only with Microsoft Internet Explorer. Personally I prefer Firefox and use it 99% of the time while I am hacking on my Windows 7 machine. But again there are those websites that only accept Microsoft's Internet Explorer...
So my questions are :
1. Is there a clean way to delete The Wine Internet Explorer??? I do not see it
listed under Wine Add/Remove Programs.
2. And further... Can an official version of Microsoft Internet Explorer be
installed under Wine??
On a plus note I have been able to install a Windows31/95/98 app and use it in cursory form and is all I really expect from the Wine right now and so I want to turn my attention to other areas particularly with the hardware...for a bit... But I will come back for more Wine...
You've got my laughs....you are now dubbed the "sleep Lacking robot" "encyclopedia", of course...smiles...
And to answer your last post...I will get to your suggestions....but at the moment I wish to turn my attention to other areas on the computer....but on the subject of Wine I see an entry for Internet Explorer and when I click on it it goes no where... I get a
""Bad Request"" and more verbage...
The Wine browser has no Internet Tools/Preferences option. And I do not see it
listed in Add/Remove Programs on the menu entry and so I wonder how to rid it so that maybe I can install an official version of IE....
Okay,
Maybe I do want Internet Explorer but a more recent Version because there are those websites that I have come across that seem to work best/only with Microsoft Internet Explorer. Personally I prefer Firefox and use it 99% of the time while I am hacking on my Windows 7 machine. But again there are those websites that only accept Microsoft's Internet Explorer...
So my questions are :
1. Is there a clean way to delete The Wine Internet Explorer??? I do not see it
listed under Wine Add/Remove Programs.
2. And further... Can an official version of Microsoft Internet Explorer be
installed under Wine??
On a plus note I have been able to install a Windows31/95/98 app and use it in cursory form and is all I really expect from the Wine right now and so I want to turn my attention to other areas particularly with the hardware...for a bit... But I will come back for more Wine...
More wine anyone?
Hi again rc2o2w,
The initial record resulting from the search of my databases was "Wine is fine, but liquor is quicker." Pursuing this line of research did not reveal anything pertinent to your inquiry.
Perhaps more probative was the advice that a little wine may make your happy, while a lot can be deleterious to your health.
Except when I attempted to run Dragon Naturally Speaking [some posts on the Wine Forum suggested IE was necessary to register DNS, which turned out not to be true] I've never used it. And while some security experts may know better, my thinking is that using Internet Explorer may result in some exposure to windows malware, My reasoning:
A: "Wine doesn't support most Windows security constructs, and instead relies on the underlying operating system for security. Unless you run Wine as root, for instance, it's hard for malicious software in Wine to modify files belonging to other users. But Wine doesn't protect you against malware you run yourself.
End of story.
Except... there are a few weak things you can do to slightly protect yourself..." http://wiki.winehq.org/SecuringWine
B. Puppies run as root.
C. The version of Internet Explorer often included with Wine is IE6. Without simultaneously running anti-malware, I wouldn't recommend running any version of IE under the "real" Windows. I think internet Explorer is now at 11. Upgrades have been in part to keep up with competitors, make things pretty, but mostly to patch discovered security holes.
That said, and trying to recall what I did to get IE running when, as mentioned above, I thought I needed it, try either of the following or both in this order:
Configure wine -- I've a vague recollection that configuring wine on one occasion resulted int IE being downloaded. But my memory may be playing tricks.
Open a terminal and type the following command:
If installed version of wine:
wine winetricks ie8
if using portable wine:
wine.sh winetricks ie8
It should dlownload and install Wine's version of Ie8. 6 and 7 are also available.
See http://wiki.winehq.org/winetricks for more info regarding the use of winetricks. The command "wine(.sh) winetricks list-all" lists every application which can be downloaded merely by adding its name to the command.
There used to be a nice winetricks GUI. But for Puppy, and other distros not using KDE, zenity was required and AFAIK zenity is broken in all.
The above link says you can download the latest version of winetricks and make it executable. I've never gotten winetricks to run that way. Which is why I stuck with version2013's 1.6.2.
See https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager. ... ion&iId=25 regarding the essentially useless attempts to get the "real" IE to function.
But note, as I said above, IE isn't really needed: certainly not needed for surfing, and any Linux browser can download programs except from microsoft, whose programs probably won't run under Wine.
J don't know of any way to entirely get rid of IE. My Portable's Utilities>Wine Control Panel>Add/Remove doesn't see it, although System>Wine Window's Program Loader does. You can browse to and delete desktop files --which will only eliminate their being displayed on the Menu-- or the Drive_C/Program Files/Internet Explorer folder. The latter won't remove registry entries.
The Pup I'm currently running uses portable. I'll continue this post after booting into Lupu which, I think, still uses the installed version.
Now posting from Lupu. It does have a registry editor, but it's Wine-1.4.
Deeply buried in my memory banks is a note that sometimes wine's gecko did not install. I know it's needed for wine's versions of firefox/opera. Maybe its also needed for wine's ie.
Try typing in a terminal:
wine(,sh) winetricks list-all
and decide on which of the 3 versions of gecko you want. It should also show if any are already installed.
Try installing it along with Ie. you can do both with one command:
wine(,sh) winetricks gecko ie8.
Edit: After parking my CPU at idle awhile [an airport servicing NYC*
], I wondered if winetricks had some for removing stuff. Googling indicated it doesn't. But, the following link was generated regarding how to remove IE from the Registry. http://engineering.zowers.net/2008/12/h ... -6-on.html. As Puppy runs as root, you can probably edit wine's registry in any text editor. Geany has search capabilities for quickly locating text. Combined with deleting the IE folder in wine Drive_C, and any IE.desktop, that should completely get rid of IE.
Of course, making guesses about what to delete form the Registry can also get rid of the utility of other programs.
mikesLr
* Note to self: Get current maps for GPS.
The initial record resulting from the search of my databases was "Wine is fine, but liquor is quicker." Pursuing this line of research did not reveal anything pertinent to your inquiry.
Perhaps more probative was the advice that a little wine may make your happy, while a lot can be deleterious to your health.
Except when I attempted to run Dragon Naturally Speaking [some posts on the Wine Forum suggested IE was necessary to register DNS, which turned out not to be true] I've never used it. And while some security experts may know better, my thinking is that using Internet Explorer may result in some exposure to windows malware, My reasoning:
A: "Wine doesn't support most Windows security constructs, and instead relies on the underlying operating system for security. Unless you run Wine as root, for instance, it's hard for malicious software in Wine to modify files belonging to other users. But Wine doesn't protect you against malware you run yourself.
End of story.
Except... there are a few weak things you can do to slightly protect yourself..." http://wiki.winehq.org/SecuringWine
B. Puppies run as root.
C. The version of Internet Explorer often included with Wine is IE6. Without simultaneously running anti-malware, I wouldn't recommend running any version of IE under the "real" Windows. I think internet Explorer is now at 11. Upgrades have been in part to keep up with competitors, make things pretty, but mostly to patch discovered security holes.
That said, and trying to recall what I did to get IE running when, as mentioned above, I thought I needed it, try either of the following or both in this order:
Configure wine -- I've a vague recollection that configuring wine on one occasion resulted int IE being downloaded. But my memory may be playing tricks.
Open a terminal and type the following command:
If installed version of wine:
wine winetricks ie8
if using portable wine:
wine.sh winetricks ie8
It should dlownload and install Wine's version of Ie8. 6 and 7 are also available.
See http://wiki.winehq.org/winetricks for more info regarding the use of winetricks. The command "wine(.sh) winetricks list-all" lists every application which can be downloaded merely by adding its name to the command.
There used to be a nice winetricks GUI. But for Puppy, and other distros not using KDE, zenity was required and AFAIK zenity is broken in all.
The above link says you can download the latest version of winetricks and make it executable. I've never gotten winetricks to run that way. Which is why I stuck with version2013's 1.6.2.
See https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager. ... ion&iId=25 regarding the essentially useless attempts to get the "real" IE to function.
But note, as I said above, IE isn't really needed: certainly not needed for surfing, and any Linux browser can download programs except from microsoft, whose programs probably won't run under Wine.
J don't know of any way to entirely get rid of IE. My Portable's Utilities>Wine Control Panel>Add/Remove doesn't see it, although System>Wine Window's Program Loader does. You can browse to and delete desktop files --which will only eliminate their being displayed on the Menu-- or the Drive_C/Program Files/Internet Explorer folder. The latter won't remove registry entries.
The Pup I'm currently running uses portable. I'll continue this post after booting into Lupu which, I think, still uses the installed version.
Now posting from Lupu. It does have a registry editor, but it's Wine-1.4.
Deeply buried in my memory banks is a note that sometimes wine's gecko did not install. I know it's needed for wine's versions of firefox/opera. Maybe its also needed for wine's ie.
Try typing in a terminal:
wine(,sh) winetricks list-all
and decide on which of the 3 versions of gecko you want. It should also show if any are already installed.
Try installing it along with Ie. you can do both with one command:
wine(,sh) winetricks gecko ie8.
Edit: After parking my CPU at idle awhile [an airport servicing NYC*
], I wondered if winetricks had some for removing stuff. Googling indicated it doesn't. But, the following link was generated regarding how to remove IE from the Registry. http://engineering.zowers.net/2008/12/h ... -6-on.html. As Puppy runs as root, you can probably edit wine's registry in any text editor. Geany has search capabilities for quickly locating text. Combined with deleting the IE folder in wine Drive_C, and any IE.desktop, that should completely get rid of IE.Of course, making guesses about what to delete form the Registry can also get rid of the utility of other programs.
mikesLr
* Note to self: Get current maps for GPS.