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Is there a FAST mozilla based browser for old PC ?

Posted: Sun 11 Jan 2015, 14:43
by totolanio
Hi,

I'd like to use my previous mozilla profiles into puppy linux on a faster browser if possible, on my 2006 computer (1go ram for example).
That's why I'd like to find a lightweight version of mozilla firefox, there is one called "Light" (light firefox) but it looks like it's only on Windows.

Other alternatives are specially built for modern hardware (palemoon is know for that apparently).

Do you know some ? are they usable on puppy tahr ?

Posted: Sun 11 Jan 2015, 14:55
by Colonel Panic
Hi,

The fastest recent mozilla-based browser I know of is one called Swiftfox. Here are some threads about it;

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 15&t=48126

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 15&t=93584

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 15&t=93945

Posted: Sun 11 Jan 2015, 15:00
by Colonel Panic
Update: I think you need the Swiftfox pet file because the links on Swiftfox's own page seem to have been taken down,. Here's the link to the pet;

http://ulozto.net/xdTfLDt7/swiftfox-3-6-13-pet

Posted: Sun 11 Jan 2015, 15:12
by totolanio
But it's last updated in 2011, right ? :(
It also means all my addons won't work ? (like colorzilla/firebug/all in one gesture etc)

Posted: Sun 11 Jan 2015, 15:41
by Colonel Panic
I'm afraid you're most likely right, but it's the fastest Mozilla-based browser I know of. Maybe someone else will be along with a better solution for you.

Posted: Wed 14 Jan 2015, 09:40
by totolanio
:'(
In top of that, on the official mozilla firefox, if you have 2 profiles with similar addons/extensions, you possess them twice ! twice their size so :'(

Posted: Wed 14 Jan 2015, 09:41
by 666philb
what about seamonkey

Posted: Wed 14 Jan 2015, 13:36
by bark_bark_bark
Seamonkey works well on a potato like yours.

Posted: Wed 14 Jan 2015, 13:50
by wboz
What about Slimboat / Slimbrowser?

Posted: Wed 14 Jan 2015, 15:14
by bark_bark_bark
wboz wrote:What about Slimboat / Slimbrowser?
I never used those 2 web browsers, but the OP wants something that is based on Mozilla code (like Firefox or Seamonkey).

And I get that, because Mozilla-based browsers have a very nice selection of addons that really do a good job of increasing privacy and security.

If your 2006 computer has a "Prescott" P4, you should be able to run pale moon really well.

Posted: Wed 14 Jan 2015, 18:06
by wboz
Sorry. I thought they were. I now think I was wrong about that.

However one of the intended features of those is that they include many features as stock that Firefox needs an extension for. So if you just want adblocking and some other stuff, they may still work great (but if you want a SPECIFIC firefox extension then I agree).

Posted: Wed 14 Jan 2015, 21:16
by bark_bark_bark
wboz wrote:Sorry. I thought they were. I now think I was wrong about that.

However one of the intended features of those is that they include many features as stock that Firefox needs an extension for. So if you just want adblocking and some other stuff, they may still work great (but if you want a SPECIFIC firefox extension then I agree).
I would go insane without noscript and requestpolicy.

Posted: Thu 15 Jan 2015, 12:18
by totolanio
Well noscript is very annoying so I don't use it anymore lol
Otherwise I mainly use All In one gesture (very useful), colorzilla, firebug, keylogger beater (yeye ), httpseverywhere and adblock +
Dunno if I can find these in slimboat

I'll have a look at seamonkey but the way it handles tabs is not logical to me (it sux ! xD).

Posted: Thu 15 Jan 2015, 12:43
by mikeb
I'll have a look at seamonkey but the way it handles tabs is not logical to me (it sux ! xD).
you can change it to the sucky firefox way or better still to the way firefox 1.5 did it...the most logical of them all (fast close multiple tabs safely)... get used to about:config and make browsers BEHAVE in a way you like.

There are tweaks in there that can help speed...eg gif animation disable.... flashblock is worth it too. Css is a big hog nowadays...but dealing with that one gets tricky.

Mike

Posted: Thu 15 Jan 2015, 13:19
by bark_bark_bark
mikeb wrote:get used to about:config and make browsers BEHAVE in a way you like.
there is also an options window.

Posted: Thu 15 Jan 2015, 13:24
by mikeb
there is also an options window.
not for everything and especially the stuff mozilla have deemed unfashionable or whatever reasons they have for removing functionality :D

mike

Posted: Thu 15 Jan 2015, 20:52
by Moat
mikeb wrote:
there is also an options window.
not for everything and especially the stuff mozilla have deemed unfashionable or whatever reasons they have for removing functionality :D

mike
Agreed - and I've found, oddly, that some of the menu's options settings don't appear to "stick" through multiple sessions. Assuring those settings (and many others!) via about:config cures it.

Also agree with mikeb about getting dirty with about:config - I've found that a few minutes of tweaking there after a fresh install allows even the latest, bloated Firefoxes to run plenty fast and smooth on even my 10-ish year old hardware. Everybody's MMV, though...

Bob

Posted: Thu 15 Jan 2015, 21:26
by mikeb
Yes settings that don't work...I managed to get form filling working again via about:config in ff 3.5/6 after they broke it...the config gui simply did not do what it said it would do. As for form history totally messed up in later versions since its now tied to history of pages which I really don't want. ...not worth the 100MB+ profile and are not bookmarks for saving pages you WANT to save? Not to mention those 100+ sqlite data bases contribute to slowdowns... what the hell were their devs snorting when they come up with that stuff? Its like tractors are great...so lets fill up the house with them darling :D

mike

Posted: Fri 16 Jan 2015, 06:14
by 8Geee
Any ideas as to what sql-db's can get tossed Using AdBlock Plus, Redirect Cleaner, Better Privacy, YouTube HTML5, and FireFTP here. libxul is ginormous at 41Mb/91Mb.

Posted: Fri 16 Jan 2015, 09:17
by gcmartin
A 2006 PC with 1GB RAM is potentially a 64bit PC. If so, you may be slow because of RAM speed, drive speed, or USB controller speed.

Your ceiling in NOT the PUP browser, but the speed of the internet as the CPU and the other items mentioned is ions faster than your internet.

There is one BIG difference in some PUPs versus others...latency.

If your system is 64bit consider FATDOG. It has shortened pathlengths even with its larger complex programs and excellent performance while not being ISO "download heavy". Also, I did have a Simplicity ISO somewhere that, though a much larger ISO, it exhibited the best I had seen in low latency for internet use, as I remember.

Hope this outlook helps