Introducing April64 (and April i686 on page 12)

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#16 Post by Jota »

Could SMplayer be an option?
And, what about trying mplayer2 or smp?

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#17 Post by BarryK »

I have got wvdial to work.

Firstly, I discovered that the package 'modem-stats' is missing.
This is a little C utility that sends Hayes commands to a modem. We use it to test a modem

I compiled modem-stats, and it will be in the next build.

I tried various recompiles of wvstreams and wvdial, got that same error.

Then, just on the off-chance, I compiled ye-olde wvdial 1.41. This is an ancient version that does not require a separate wvstreams package, instead has inbuilt wvstreams code that is considerably smaller.

This old wvdial works, and I was able to go online with PupDial.

However, trying to recall, there was some reason that we had to upgrade to wvdial 1.5 and later. It may have had something to do with the /dev/ttyUSB interfaces.

Well, wvdial 1.41 is connecting with /dev/ttyUSB0, no problem.

But, there is the 'wvdialconf' utility, that PupDial may use to probe a modem -- perhaps that does not understand /dev/ttyUSB* devices.

In that case, maybe this is an excellent project for a low-level coding genius like technosaurus, to fix the old 1.41 to properly recognise the serial usb ports.

The source is here:
http://bkhome.org/sources/alphabetical/w/
us#er: p#up#py pa#ssw#d: li#nux (obfuscated)

...I used the "patched2" source.
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#18 Post by Billtoo »

Installed to a 32gb flash drive, pc is a hp desktop.

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Quirky April64, version 6.89

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Device 68d9

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe
Drivers requested to be loaded: fglrx

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): fglrx
Loaded modules: dbe ddc extmod fb fglrxdrm glesx glx kbd mouse ramdac vbe vgahw

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 3840x1080 pixels (1016x285 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
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The proprietary ati driver compiled with errors, on first boot the vesa
driver was in use at a low resolution.

The fglrx driver has the correct resolution and supports 2 monitors but
it isn't working 100%, attached fglrx-install.log.gz is not a gz.

I get the seamonkey first run notice everytime on this pc too, just
lucky I guess.
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#19 Post by linuxcbon »

Hi Barry,

I am trying to compile in puppy precise 5.7.1 for i686.
I am trying the minimal options for abiword.

./configure alone doesnt work, it needs boostlib
./configure --with-boost=no doesnt work, needs gtk3
./configure --with-boost=no --with-gtk2 , doesnt work, still needs boostlib
So I opened a bug report : http://bugzilla.abisource.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13695

boostlib isn't in the Devx by default ? So I cannot compile abiword without it ?

Cheers.

http://bugzilla.abisource.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13695
Ok it's a bug but they won't fix it (damn). Boostlib is mandatory for abiword.

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#20 Post by Billtoo »

I was able to compile Deadbeef 0.6.2 with the config:

./configure --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var --libdir=/usr/lib64 --disable-hotkeys

EDIT: I was able to compile mplayer-checkout-snapshot.tar.bz2 +
gmtk-1.0.8.tar.gz + gnome-mplayer-1.0.8.tar.gz.
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#21 Post by musher0 »

BarryK wrote:Regarding Abiword, this is how I configured it in T2:

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./configure --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var --build=i686-pc-linux-gnu --disable-gucharmap --enable-print --enable-spell --enable-static --disable-shared --with-gtk2 --enable-plugins="freetranslation gdict grammar mswrite opendocument openwriter openxml pdf wmf"  --disable-default-plugins --without-goffice --without-gnomevfs --with-gio --disable-debug --with-boost
The 'grammar' plugin got linked into the abiword executable, but I think it only works if compiled as a separate plugin.

EDIT:
For 64-bit target, change above to '--build=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu'
Hello, Mr. Kauler.

Abiword is its plugins.

Instead of again giving an incomplete representation of abiword by compiling only a
few of its plug-ins, -- hopefully you are doing so for technical reasons, but whatever
the case may be -- please leave it out and gain some space for the distro. You could
simply provide URL's to direct potential users to both Médor's and shinobar's
excellent Abiword-3 sfs's.

General users and even some of those who write for a living will then have a choice
and be better served since both packages provide a complete word-processing tool,
not a crippled one.

From one who's pushed for years for having the full abiword in Puppy. Puppyists
now have the tremendous chance to have available two complete versions of
abiword 3. Why go backwards, why settle for less?

Best regards.

musher0

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P.S. shinobar's portable abiword-3 is here:
http://shinobar.server-on.net/puppy/opt ... 0.0.tar.gz
Médor's abiword-3.0.0-gtk2_5.7.sfs can be accessed through here:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... post#777342
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#22 Post by linuxcbon »

@musher0 the goal is to have a complete puppy, not a incomplete piece of useless.., so bad idea.

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#23 Post by musher0 »

linuxcbon wrote:@musher0 the goal is to have a complete puppy, not a incomplete piece of useless crap, so bad idea.
Hi, linuxcbon.

If it's useless crap, it shouldn't be in Puppy, period. Viewed from another angle,
maybe you think abiword is crap because you've always been presented a crippled
version of it?

Conversely, if it's in Puppy, it's worth something, and a complete version should
then be presented to avoid misrepresentation, especially to newcomers.

It's too easy to break a guy's legs and then say: "That guy can't run in the race."
Puppy is doing the same thing to abiword. abiword may not be the greatest word-
processor in the world, but it still has its merits.

In my mind it is clear that this is a moral issue, not a computing issue.

Best regards.

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#24 Post by linuxcbon »

@musher0 you didnt understand what I meant. I meant the goal is to have abiword, but complete.

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#25 Post by musher0 »

linuxcbon wrote:@musher0 you didnt understand what I meant. I meant the goal is to have abiword, but complete.
No comment...
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#26 Post by linuxcbon »

musher0 wrote:No comment...
we need a working abiword integrated in puppy, not using an external sfs. is that clear enough ? what is it your don't understand ?

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#27 Post by stavpup »

linuxcbon wrote:
musher0 wrote:No comment...
we need a working abiword integrated in puppy, not using an external sfs. is that clear enough ? what is it your don't understand ?
but don't you mean Quirky ?

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#28 Post by linuxcbon »

stavpup wrote:but don't you mean Quirky ?

no, puppy in general.

Pelo

Puppy is a light distro

#29 Post by Pelo »

With light but numerous apps. Sfs Goffice 7MB from JP fullfill most of us needs. People working with powerfull textwriter can continue downloading a full abiword (Musher has it).
Browsers get bigger and bigger...
Puppy will no more enter old computers
Please think about non administrative people. You can load :
OOo
Libre Office
Koffice
Softoffice
and others....
The poor puppy is a all purpose distro, share between categories, multimedia, graphics, office.
You have so much of choice... for typewrting nice letters.

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#30 Post by linuxcbon »

Still trying to build abiword in precise 686...and chasing after libraries.
After installing boost , I got
ut_go_file.cpp:1187:38: error: 'gsf_input_http_new' was not declared in this scope
So missing library "libgsf" in devx...
Trying to install libgsf, it needs gnome-common.
Installed gnome-common, libgsf needs gtk-doc
Trying to configure gtk-doc :
configure: error: could not find DocBook XML DTD V4.3 in XML catalog
Ok what's next ? :D
ps : I think I will try this directly in april64.
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#32 Post by James C »

Quick install to a partition on an old dual-core box.....all basics working on initial boot.

Looking solid.

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# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Quirky April64, version 6.89

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Device 0a65 (rev a2)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
  Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1024x768x16
  Depth (bits, or planes):              24
  Modules requested to be loaded:       dbe 

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
  Driver loaded (and currently in use): nv
  Loaded modules: dbe extmod fb kbd modesetting mouse shadow

Actual rendering on monitor:
  Resolution:  1440x900 pixels (381x238 millimeters)
  Depth:       24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
# 

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-Computer-
Processor		: 2x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+
Memory		: 4054MB (174MB used)
Machine Type		: Physical machine
Operating System		: Quirky April64
User Name		: root (root)
Date/Time		: Mon Jan  5 17:20:09 2015
-Display-
Resolution		: 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer		: Unknown
X11 Vendor		: The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter		: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
Audio Adapter		: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia

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-Version-
Kernel		: Linux 3.17.4 (x86_64)
Version		: #1 SMP Sat Jan 3 13:10:26 GMT-8 2015
C Library		: GNU C Library version 2.20 (stable)
Distribution		: Quirky April64

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# free
             total         used         free       shared      buffers
Mem:       4054008       318496      3735512         2428         8788
-/+ buffers:             309708      3744300
Swap:     14540792            0     14540792
# 
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#33 Post by Billtoo »

Installed to a 32gb SDHC card, pc is a hp desktop.

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Quirky April64, version 6.89

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Device 0152 (rev 09)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1920x1080
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): intel
Loaded modules: dbe extmod kbd mouse present

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1920x1080 pixels (508x285 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#
Computer

Processor 4x Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3550 CPU @ 3.30GHz
Memory 8070MB (230MB used)
Machine Type Physical machine
Operating System Quirky April64
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Mon Jan 5 19:58:09 2015

It's working well on this pc, still get the seamonkey first run message everytime
though.
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#34 Post by BarryK »

linuxcbon wrote:Hi Barry,

I am trying to compile in puppy precise 5.7.1 for i686.
I am trying the minimal options for abiword.

./configure alone doesnt work, it needs boostlib
./configure --with-boost=no doesnt work, needs gtk3
./configure --with-boost=no --with-gtk2 , doesnt work, still needs boostlib
So I opened a bug report : http://bugzilla.abisource.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13695

boostlib isn't in the Devx by default ? So I cannot compile abiword without it ?

Cheers.

http://bugzilla.abisource.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13695
Ok it's a bug but they won't fix it (damn). Boostlib is mandatory for abiword.
Yeah, boost is required. Both i686 and amd64 April builds have it, in the devx.
I haven't uploaded Quirky April i686 yet, will do so soon.

The i686 build will have some of the same bugs as the amd64 build, and with the help of you guys testing this alpha-release, I will get lots of those bugs squashed, so when upload i686 April it should be a pretty good experience.
[url]https://bkhome.org/news/[/url]

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Re: Introducing April64

#35 Post by BarryK »

Billtoo wrote:I was able to compile Deadbeef 0.6.2 with the config:

./configure --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var --libdir=/usr/lib64 --disable-hotkeys

EDIT: I was able to compile mplayer-checkout-snapshot.tar.bz2 +
gmtk-1.0.8.tar.gz + gnome-mplayer-1.0.8.tar.gz.
Billtoo,
Did you compare mplayer and gnome-mplayer, with different videos?

I tested mplayer with some video files, and it either crashed or wouldn't play them. Mostly crashed.
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