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Billtoo


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PostPosted: Sun 04 Jan 2015, 12:32    Post subject: Re: "Experimental" unicornpup derivative  

peebee wrote:
"Experimental" unicornpup derivative:

LxPupUnicorn-15.1 kernel 3.17.7-pae


Manual frugal install to a 16gb flash drive.

video-info-glx 1.5.3 Sun 4 Jan 2015 on LxPupUnicorn 15.1 Linux 3.17.7 i686
0.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF110 [GeForce GTX 560 Ti OEM] (rev a1)
oem: NVIDIA
product: GF110 Board - 12630002 Chip Rev

X Server: Xorg Driver: nouveau
X.Org version: 1.16.0
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (507x285 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: nouveau
OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on NVC8
OpenGL core profile version string: 3.3 (Core Profile) Mesa 10.3.0

I updated PPM,added Firefox and Kdegames.
I couldn't get the kernel source sfs file to load with sfs
load-on-the-fly,used the boot manager and it appeared to be loaded but
I couldn't install the proprietary nvidia driver (it gave an error
about not finding the kernel.h) so using the nouveau driver.

The individual kdegames won't launch from the menu but will launch
from grun, same thing in regular unicornpup.

Installed arandr from PPM to support 2 monitors.

Working well apart from the above.
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PostPosted: Sun 04 Jan 2015, 19:26    Post subject: how to remaster it by hand  

Hi

Unicorn Puppy is on my partition /mnt/home in subdir Zuni (all my Puppy are in Znnn or in returned writting if adequate yppup as they are in my biggest partition with actually Kubuntu, 14.10 of course).

First constatation:

PrtScr does not work (on my PC) and RGBpaint seems to be unable to be used for a PrtScr (or hides it really good Laughing if it cans! so I did have to install seamonkey to download and install mTpaint to do as I am accustomed (in the «Welcome to unicornpup version 6.0, released Dec 2014» there is in the index no report about this primordial function to help to communicate with pictures in the forum...).

A look in /initrd shows 3 subdir's in use:
- pup_ro2
- pup_rw
- pup_z

In the frugal dir I have only 2 sfs + devx:

- puppy_unicorn_6.0.sfs
- zdrv_unicorn_6.0.sfs

My Seamonkey with all needed files, dictionaries, noscript and addblock+ is in

/mnt/home/seamonkeyS (S is analog to http"s", in my eyes for "s"ecure). the content of /root/.mozilla is logged in it as well as the content of /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins

I only change /usr/local/bin/defaultbrowser
add a link /root/.mozilla
and copy .../plugins/* in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins

in each Puppy

so I can work with the same version of seamonkey in all Puppy's (and Kubuntu, having no xulrunner app's any more, and Debian, having also no xulrunner app's any more): always the same contents...

...and comportment of seamonkey indifferent in which Linux I am actually.

what is to copy where in the case of this splitted *.sfs's?

which CLI command to use to reproduce exactly the same compression's rate (or are the choices in rox («create a pet package», «dir2sfs», «make archive» «Make ISO») better to do that? Where is to read about it: In Unicorn help?)

kind rgds

note: how to remove the new stuff I will never use (see my precedent message above)
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PostPosted: Mon 05 Jan 2015, 05:37    Post subject:  

Note for new-puppies-fans / new-puppies-players:

I love to test new puppies and discover some new ideas, sometimes best ideas I did meet along years in Linux and other software. So the best software conceptions from Petihar years along: Best finish, and best accompanying with adequate complete software package (real good office, communication's software, perfect translation in his language, is not important for me but satisfying to see) or the revolutionary software from RSH made of Puppy stuff!

the actual "Experimental" unicornpup derivative is such a stuff: Puppy is growing, growing and growing and his name is more, more and more wrong - It is becoming to be a "Phanty" (in analogy to the name Pupp"y" but reported to an Elephant; and we have to take care to produce some Mmmothy's in analogy with the old good mammoth's!). "Experimental" unicornpup derivative is a good answer to this problem excepted the adding of software not really being useful for Puppy lover's accustomed to use traditional Puppy stuff and not able to mix all that from Puppy derivative to Puppy derivative.

You see, I use at the same time divers versions of Puppy derivatives (and other Linux's! And it is a problem enough as Puppy is always root and block so the usage of files for the other Linux's, especially hidden files like /root/.mozilla/*, and disturbs, say Kubuntu / Debian by start, the usual comportment of the partition's management!

so are my mozilla and libreoffice files all directly in the partition, not in *.sfs or some save file or subdivision.

in that "Experimental" unicornpup derivative I can use a little save file with only 32 MB again: free space 23 MB, and all what I need works and is installed (else in the little ISO as prepared by philb or on my main partition)!
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PostPosted: Mon 05 Jan 2015, 06:40    Post subject: Re: how to remaster it by hand  

oui wrote:
Hi
PrtScr does not work

A look in /initrd shows 3 subdir's in use:
- pup_ro2
- pup_rw
- pup_z

In the frugal dir I have only 2 sfs + devx:

- puppy_unicorn_6.0.sfs
- zdrv_unicorn_6.0.sfs

which CLI command to use to reproduce exactly the same compression's rate (or are the choices in rox («create a pet package», «dir2sfs», «make archive» «Make ISO») better to do that? Where is to read about it: In Unicorn help?)

note: how to remove the new stuff I will never use (see my precedent message above)


hi oui,

prtscr should work if you install a screenshot app or mtpaint for mtpaint set /usr/local/defaultscreenshot to mtpaint -s )

pup_rw is the savefile/folder

i've never done it manually but try this command
Code:
mksquashfs /path/to/puppy/folder /path/to/put/puppy.sfs -comp xz


for removing stuff use menu>>setup>>>remove builtin packages ... or remove manually then remaster

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PostPosted: Mon 05 Jan 2015, 06:42    Post subject: Re: Full Install with Video Problem
Subject description: ATI - losing 1600x900 setting
 

davids45 wrote:
G'day,

I found I could install a Full Unicorn-6.0 from my Frugal Unicorn by setting the Universal Installer to use sda not sdb (refer earlier post with full install issue to sdb from a Frugal).

I have a Full on sda15 but am running into a problem with the video setting - it starts fine with the ATI driver and 1600x900 for the monitor, but after a re-start or two, drops back to a distorted 1280x1024 setting.
The video wizard does not work to restore the correct setting.

My Frugal Unicorn has kept its 1600x900 display, but copying the xorg.conf files from the good Frugal to the faulty Full did not help.

The checksum for the iso matches so the downloaded iso looks not the problem.

David S.


sorry davids45 ... not sure what's going on there . have you tried booting with fsck?

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PostPosted: Mon 05 Jan 2015, 12:42    Post subject: Re: how to remaster it by hand  

oui wrote:

PrtScr does not work (on my PC) and RGBpaint seems to be unable to be used for a PrtScr (or hides it really good Laughing if it cans!

I have since installed mtpaint as it resizes and rgbpaint doesn't, but rgbpaint -s run from a terminal did allow me to make some initial screenshots, albeit without a timer or other niceties we've grown accustomed to.

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PostPosted: Mon 19 Jan 2015, 14:30    Post subject: Thanks  

Thanks for unicornpup--I love it. No issues for a manual frugal install to HD on an MSI Wind U100 netbook. So far I have used it mainly to watch Netflix with an sfs of google chrome 39 + scabz's required upgrades and lxrandr for external monitor (TV). It works great for the purpose.
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PostPosted: Fri 23 Jan 2015, 18:34    Post subject: errors building a Linux entirely by compilation in unicornp.  

build a Linux entirely form scratch by compilation of absolutely each stuff with unicornpup

Hi

I am trying a new experience:

build Linux from scratch

but not as a very ugly job as usual (step by step) but using computer aid (I find it is silly dilly to sit in front of a computer an enter lots of data being accessible by the computer itself to do the job itself at the time were you can listen the TV or some other distractions...)

but I did meet a problem:

the method (from a gifted developer and only used also by me) requires a proper system where all precedent essays and there trace are completely erased!

so I did say to me:

«Oh! somewhat for Puppy!»

Why?

- we have extreme modern stuff like this unicornpup, about most possible modern stuff of all!
- including adequate devx file (devx_unicorn_6.0.sfs)
- very small system (135 MB)
- but fast as a lot runs in RAM
- and you can erase (or only rename) all of precedent essays without toil: reboot with an othe Puppy, rename the save file, copy the precedent save file (32 MB), restart, resize the save file, reboot a last time and

begin the job to buiild an

entirely self compiled Linux in your PC (for your own processor, please!)

Hm...

I did prepare an adequate 32 MB save file in my /mnt/sdaX/Zuni directory (the subdir dedicated to unicornpup on my sytem) with SARAB (to fat the system being occupied probably 2 or 3 days allong by the compilation without limit), a browser, Seamonkey, to make the waiting time attractive (compile all a Linux including Xorg requires a long time on PC's with old processors as my PC, an old DELL Optiplex SX 280 with Pentium 2,8 GHx, not Celeron, 2GB / 0,5 TB),

I did add https://packages.debian.org/jessie/syslinux-utils as isohybrid is required (later, at the end of the complete process) and not included. After that I did make a copy of that tiny file using, using an other Puppy, then after restart increase the tiny file to 2 GB to dispose of the all volume of my RAM at working time and restart...and really start the job!

the job consist into copy (line after line a lot of commando line into an opened console by marking each line separately and hitting in the console on the middle mouse key followed by «enter»... not really a science. easy and fast!

first problem:

some commands are given by busybox and not conform to the usual commands (groupadd/addgroup and useradd/adduser). the commando line needing are:

Quote:
mkdir /mnt/lfs
#following step if only needed if you use a separate partition as chroot:
mount /dev/sdaX /mnt/lfs # !!!adapt it to your partitions!!!

export LFS=/mnt/lfs

mkdir -vp $LFS/{sources,tools}
ln -svf $LFS/tools /
ln -svf $LFS/sources /
addgroup lfs
adduser -s /bin/bash -G lfs -D -H lfs
mkdir /home
mkdir /home/lfs

chown -v lfs $LFS/{tools,sources} chmod -v a+wt $LFS/sources chown -v lfs $LFS
su - lfs

cat > ~/.bash_profile << "EOF"
exec env -i HOME=$HOME TERM=$TERM PS1='\u:\w\$ ' /bin/bash
EOF

cat > ~/.bashrc << "EOF"
set +h
umask 022
LFS=/mnt/lfs
LC_ALL=POSIX
LFS_TGT=$(uname -m)-lfs-linux-gnu
PATH=/home/lfs/bin:/tools/bin:/bin:/usr/bin
export LFS LC_ALL LFS_TGT PATH
EOF

source ~/.bash_profile

git clone git://git.tuxfamily.org/gitroot/nutyx/saravane.git

cd saravane
scripts/runmebeforepass1


less than 30 commando lines to execute the adequate preparations!

or only exactly 30 commando lines (if you use a separate partition, if not, only 29) including following two next lines needed to execute the complete pass 1 of compilation!

Quote:
cd /home/lfs/saravane/chroot
pass


but very important you must see a message

Quote:
====> Successfull configured


before you can try to start the pass1 entering the 2 last lines...

and this doesn't / never happen Embarassed in unicorn pup...

(you can try to continue using CursorUp + enter, in case of difficulty of download the sources it can really help!)

I did repeat this attempt more times in Unicorn without success... What can be the reason?

Note: The final success message for that pass1 has to be:

Quote:
+ mkdir -pv /mnt/lfs/var/lib/pkg/DB
mkdir: created directory '/mnt/lfs/var'
mkdir: created directory '/mnt/lfs/var/lib'
mkdir: created directory '/mnt/lfs/var/lib/pkg'
mkdir: created directory '/mnt/lfs/var/lib/pkg/DB'
=======> Building '/home/lfs/MakeNuTyX/CHROOT/cards/Pkgfile' succeeded.


Note: at the time of ArchPup, I did try one time the same without difficulty probably because ArchPup did use more stuff from Arch as usual Puppy from Ubunutu?
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PostPosted: Fri 23 Jan 2015, 18:38    Post subject:  

The pass 2 is stuff for only 33 commando lines

Quote:
su -
export LFS=/mnt/lfs
echo $LFS
# and see if echo is really: /mnt/lfs ! if ok, continue:
chown -R root:root $LFS
install -dv -m0750 $LFS/root
ln -s saravane/scripts $LFS/root/bin
mv /home/lfs/saravane $LFS/root/
cd $LFS/root/saravane/system/aaabasicfs
/tools/bin/pkgmk -cf ../../../bin/pkgmk.conf.passes
/tools/bin/pkgadd -r $LFS aaabasicfs1*
/tools/bin/pkgadd -r $LFS aaabasicfs.man1*
# the 1. package is now installed in the chroot! check if it is really presend:
ls $LFS/var/lib/pkg/DB
# this returns if ok: aaabasicfs aaabasicfs.man
mount -v -B /dev $LFS/dev
mount -vt devpts devpts $LFS/dev/pts
mount -vt proc proc $LFS/proc
mount -vt sysfs sysfs $LFS/sys
if [ -h /dev/shm ]; then rm -f $LFS/dev/shm;mkdir $LFS/dev/shm;fi
mount -vt tmpfs shm $LFS/dev/shm
chmod 1777 /dev/shm
mount|grep $LFS
# it should return 6..10 lines like: /dev/sda2 on /mnt/lfs type ext4 (rw) etc.
chroot "$LFS" /usr/bin/env -i HOME=/root TERM="$TERM" PS1='\u:\w\$ ' \
/bin/bash --login +h
export PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/tools/bin:/root/bin
cd /root/saravane/system
pass
# bash as to be installed manually after a certain compilation time! The invitation to do it is: need to install bash manually
exit
cd $LFS/root/saravane/system/bash
for PACK in *.xz; do /tools/bin/pkgadd -r $LFS $PACK;done
chroot "$LFS" /usr/bin/env -i HOME=/root TERM="$TERM" PS1='\u:\w\$ ' \
/bin/bash --login +h
# the commando line begins now with a simple slah: /
export PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/tools/bin:/root/bin
cd /root/saravane/system
pass


The compilattion ends with the compilation of the kernel...

Quote:
exit


The post installation also is very easy:

Quote:
echo $LFS
# and see if echo is really: /mnt/lfs ! if ok, continue:
/mnt/lfs
chroot $LFS /usr/bin/env -i HOME=/root TERM="$TERM" PS1='\u: \w\$' \
/bin/bash --login
cat > /etc/cards.conf << "EOF"
dir /root/saravane/base
dir /root/saravane/system
logdir /var/log/pkgbuild
arch x86_64
locale fr
base /root/saravane/system
EOF
cd /root/saravane/base
for i in *
do
cd $i
pkgmk -us||break
cd ..
done
mkinitramfs


success mssg: Creating initrd... done !

one way to fat the new system, for example:

Quote:
cd /root/saravane/base
cards depends xorg > .list
echo "xorg" >> .list
pass


more? see book LinuxFromScratch as well as the author's page at http://nutyx.org !
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PostPosted: Sun 25 Jan 2015, 00:58    Post subject:  

Is this based on Barry's QU code? If so, it's good to see there is additional support on this one. I find Barry's distro to be near flawless, except for the lime-green (yep, I had to say it...LOL)

Quick update: Unfortunately, Unicornpup is not identifying my eth0.
First distro in quite a while that didn't pick up on it. I'll let you know my card if you can help but on another computer at the moment.


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PostPosted: Wed 28 Jan 2015, 00:11    Post subject:  

OK. The Ethernet card that's not getting recognized is the Realtek RTL 8169.

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PostPosted: Wed 28 Jan 2015, 11:34    Post subject: UCF2FS Pup  

UCF2FS Pup - Released 28th Jan 2015

@slavvo67

The above Pup may solve your Ethernet problem. It uses as its base the alternate f2fs image of 666philb's Unicorn-6.0 building block puplet as detailed on the first page of this thread.
The changes to the base image are mainly cosmetic but the following have been added:
• Latest version of Chrome stable. (40.0.2214.91)
• Latest versions of Videostream, Google Cast & a locally held version of Sid’s cast.
• Latest Thunderbird. (31.4.0)
• Leafpad.
• FbBox-1.0.
• Netflix (Not tested as no account held).

The intended target is a 8GB or larger USB2 or USB3 stick.
The image ucf2fs_pup.img.xz 287MB, MD5sum, install procedure & slideshow showing the features can be found here:

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B_iVVJCd9q09fml1aU1lZmE0TVB3WmNZNVB2bGRjQzFhOFlNZU95a2VENWRSWFJmTkdJLVk&usp=sharing

Setup:

Ethernet.
On first boot there will be a red cross on the system tray network icon.
1. Click on the “Lan” desktop icon. An 8169 driver will be shown but not with your Mac address.

2. Delete it & then click on Eth0.

3. SNS should then establish a connection which you should O/K but the red cross will still show.

4. Restart X to eliminate the red cross. Test Internet access & if O/K click on the desktop “save” icon.

Other Settings.
OOTB the settings are optimised for 1920x1080. Reduce your global font size from 102 dpi to 96 or less depending on your resolution.

Visit Quick Setup to make your usual changes. Having done so restart X and then click on the “save” icon again.

Edit: (31st January 2015)

• Netflix is now confirmed as working. (Thanks to Sylvander)

• An optional Popcorn Time dotpet has been added to the download folder together with a couple of extra slides in the slideshow showing it streaming to a Chromecast.
If you install this pet reboot having done so making sure that you save the session. The reboot will ensure that the font cache is regenerated.

This Pup contains a small fat32 boot partition and a larger f2fs partition which contains the main sfs plus a ready made save-folder with 3.3GB of free space.
In addition, if you target a 16 GB stick, an unallocated free space of 11GB will be available to create a third partition in the format of your choice.

Pupsaveconfig has been preset to "always ask" at shutdown or reboot so it makes an ideal test bed. It provides some of the speed advantages of a full install to f2fs whilst
still performing in the same manner as an ISO running entirely in RAM.
Upon re-booting or at shutdown the option to save the session or not will always be offered.
This can be very handy when your latest experimental addition has gone pear shaped as by not saving the session you in effect wipe the slate clean and can start again.
The desktop “save” icon can be clicked at any time and it makes sense to save a session before trying something risky or when having installed a dotpet that you wish to retain.
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PostPosted: Wed 28 Jan 2015, 16:49    Post subject: unicornpup  

New manual frugal install to a 128gb usb 3.0/2.0 external ssd.

Computer
Processor 4x Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3550 CPU @ 3.30GHz
Memory 3517MB (117MB used)
Machine Type Physical machine
Operating System unicornpup - 6.0
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Wed 28 Jan 2015 03:32:05 PM EST
Display
Resolution 1920x1080 pixels
OpenGL Renderer Mesa DRI Intel(R) Ivybridge Desktop x86/MMX/SSE2
X11 Vendor The X.Org Foundation
SCSI Disks
Monster Overdrive 3.0

Working well so far.
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PostPosted: Wed 28 Jan 2015, 17:32    Post subject:  

ETP,

Sounds like a nice option. I'll give it a try. I'm guessing there are some drivers around to recognize this card, as well. Mostly all other puppies find it no prob.

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PostPosted: Thu 29 Jan 2015, 18:58    Post subject: Re: UCF2FS Pup  

ETP wrote:
UCF2FS Pup

I installed this to my 8GB Flash Drive.
Looking good, and seems to be working well.
Tried playing Netflix movies by "Casting" [from the already installed Google Chrome browser using the already installed "Google Cast" extension] to my previously set up and functioning "Chromecast" dongle in the HDMI socket on my Sony Bravia Smart TV.
Works just fine. Very Happy

I now have 2 Puppies that will do this.
The other is tahr-6.0-ce_pae on a 4GB Flash Drive.

Is it possible, when working within this Puppy, to:
a. Only have it save when I choose to MANUALLY save?
i.e. NO AUTOSAVE?
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