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csipesz


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Location: Isaszeg, Hungary

PostPosted: Thu 25 Dec 2014, 07:48    Post subject:  

dear 666philb, i have a problem with this unicorn:
On precise 5.7.1 retro, the getnvidia app works good;
on unicorn puppy why not? - please help me somebody.
I can not making an nvidia driver for my geforce 7600 gs card...
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Marv


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Location: SW Wisconsin

PostPosted: Thu 25 Dec 2014, 18:13    Post subject:  

Unicornpup continues to please Very Happy

Continuing to play:

lxpanel_0.6.2 from PPM runs very well and the footprint isn't too bad at roughly 1.2Mb uncompressed (I just eyeballed what was added to the save file). Simple to turn off the jwm panel by 'hiding' /root/.jmrc-tray. The menu plugin from lxpanel wants an lxde-applications.menu at /root/.config/menus. Could symlink to /etc/xdg/menus/lxde-applications.menu but I just used the one from LxTahrPup. All controls/transparency/plugins working and easy to config.

I did update Yad. The one onboard (from woof CE?) is version 0.12.4. I updated to 0.27.0 (the one in X-slacko 2.3) so I could use the dir2sfs, sfs2dir etc from there. A bit more flexibility in compression schemes and Yad dialog, not urxvt. The older version didn't support the text formatting needed..

Pale Moon 25.1.0 and Opera 12.16 both run well, both 'portable' installations. SlimBoat 1.1.53, also a portable install, misses gstreamer 0.10. Netsurf is great for a bootstrap browser, seems pretty stable, and having the main browsers external and shared is just fine.

Continues to be totally workable out of the box, and much more pleasing visually (to me) with lxpanel.

Edit Dec 27: Continuing on, I added PCManFM 1.2.3 and a couple of fonts, did some testing in the /usr/local/bin/rox file to get the PCManFM opened cleanly when a drive is mounted or clicked, symlinked the different Trash locations, and the odd quartet JWM/Rox/Lxpanel/PCManFM really play pretty nicely together. Resquashed using xz high compression and the main SFS is up by 3.7Mb with NOTHING in the savefile. Not everybodies cup of tea but fast, quite light, and fun Smile Oh, and the rightclicks from LxPupTahr also work perfectly here. Just used the pet in the options there. Thanks peebee

Edit Dec 31: Refined the 'rox' file testing and now bookmarks are automatically added and subtracted from the PCManFM sidepane as drives are mounted/unmounted. Can't mount from within PCManFM but it stays in synch with the Roxworld and Pmount. Had a shootout between the pure mutt described above and an Openbox/Lxpanel and a Lxde/Lxpanel version. The mutt won on lightness particularly with very few addtl. dependencies, but also surprisingly on objective speed and robustness. JWM/Rox really does do an ok job on the desktop and drives and Lxpanel and PCManFM 1.2.3 with rightclicks makes me happy.

Thanks,

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Billtoo


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PostPosted: Thu 25 Dec 2014, 18:30    Post subject: unicornpup  

Still playing here too Smile

I moved my SDHC card install to my Gateway desktop which has Nvidia
graphics.

I downloaded and compiled the NVIDIA-Linux-x86-340.65.run proprietary
driver.

video-info-glx 1.5.3 Thu 25 Dec 2014 on unicornpup 6.0 Linux 3.14.20 i686
0.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF110 [GeForce GTX 560 Ti OEM] (rev a1)
oem: NVIDIA
product: GF110 Board - 12630002 Chip Rev

X Server: Xorg Driver: nvidia
X.Org version: 1.16.0
dimensions: 3840x1080 pixels (1204x343 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: GeForce GTX 560 Ti/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL core profile version string: 4.4.0 NVIDIA 340.65

Working well.
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PostPosted: Thu 25 Dec 2014, 21:19    Post subject:  

The acid test...

Just walked downstairs with a syslinux USB stick with the unicornpup 6.0 setup from my previous post on it and plugged it into my desktop with a 2GHz quad core intel j1900 processor. Bay Trail-D with intel HD 4000 video. Wired ethernet. That board has been very very picky about having a kernel newer than 3.11/3.12 for USB support and about Xorg/i915/Mesa versions. Lazy boy didn't even cull the laptop stuff. It loved LxTahrPup so, as expected, fired right up with USB, sound, intel driver and Mesa and correct video resolution. Checked the intel drm install. Totally clean. Glxgears at 2335 FPS, right where I'd expect it. Culled the .flsynclient, acpid_start, and CPU governor. With a TDW of 10 watts for processor/GPU, not much thermal management needed. Posting from it now.

In summary, it's just as at home on a thoroughly modern Intel based motherboard as it is on the 2004 era Pentium M laptop.

Edit: added "Intel based"

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csipesz


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PostPosted: Fri 26 Dec 2014, 07:02    Post subject:  

does nobody know a solution to this getnvidia-problem really? Then that's right, onto any amount i like it this new operating system, I have to stick by the own, csipeszpup system.
I can play it at least with my favourite game, the Far Cry...
Hm Sad ...
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Billtoo


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Location: Ontario Canada

PostPosted: Fri 26 Dec 2014, 11:49    Post subject: unicornpup  

New install of ETP's ucf2fs.img.xz image to a 32gb SDHC card, pc is an
AAO netbook.
video-info-glx 1.5.3 Fri 26 Dec 2014 on unicornpup 6.0 Linux 3.14.20 i686
5.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RS880M [Mobility Radeon HD 4225/4250]
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS
product: RS880M 01.00

X Server: Xorg Driver: radeon
X.Org version: 1.16.0
dimensions: 1024x600 pixels (270x158 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: X.Org
OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on AMD RS880
OpenGL core profile version string: 3.3 (Core Profile) Mesa 10.3.0

AMD Athlon(tm) II Neo K125 Processor
Core 0: @1700 MHz

It's working well so far.
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666philb


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Location: wales

PostPosted: Fri 26 Dec 2014, 17:44    Post subject:  

[quote="peebee"]
Notice there is only nouveau or nv drivers for nvidia - no modesetting?

Notice that openssl is still showing a really old version?
Quote:
# openssl version
OpenSSL 1.0.1f 6 Jan 2014

p.s. is this really a derivative? seems more like a Project to me Wink


might need xserver-xorg-video-modesetting from the PPM

openssl is patched and is from october same as in tahrpup

unicornpup is a building block puppy and is released as is .... it's up to others to make it into a project Smile

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PostPosted: Fri 26 Dec 2014, 17:47    Post subject:  

csipesz wrote:
dear 666philb, i have a problem with this unicorn:
On precise 5.7.1 retro, the getnvidia app works good;
on unicorn puppy why not? - please help me somebody.
I can not making an nvidia driver for my geforce 7600 gs card...


getnvidia worked fine for me with the latest driver ....

tahrpups nvidia noPAE driver packages might work http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pet_packages-tahr/

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PostPosted: Fri 26 Dec 2014, 17:53    Post subject:  

i forgot to add the fix for the PPM to stop it installing some packages which break puppy ......http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?mode=attach&id=83133
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csipesz


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PostPosted: Fri 26 Dec 2014, 22:56    Post subject:  

for 666philb:
thank you for the fast hint, I try these!
Right, I do not know that others PREPARED IT HOW, but is at least!
And this the important one. Smile
I wish everybody a fruitful, happy new year!
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davids45


Joined: 26 Nov 2006
Posts: 1007
Location: Chatswood, NSW

PostPosted: Tue 30 Dec 2014, 02:34    Post subject: Full Install with Video Problem
Subject description: ATI - losing 1600x900 setting
 

G'day,

I found I could install a Full Unicorn-6.0 from my Frugal Unicorn by setting the Universal Installer to use sda not sdb (refer earlier post with full install issue to sdb from a Frugal).

I have a Full on sda15 but am running into a problem with the video setting - it starts fine with the ATI driver and 1600x900 for the monitor, but after a re-start or two, drops back to a distorted 1280x1024 setting.
The video wizard does not work to restore the correct setting.

My Frugal Unicorn has kept its 1600x900 display, but copying the xorg.conf files from the good Frugal to the faulty Full did not help.

The checksum for the iso matches so the downloaded iso looks not the problem.

David S.
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Keisha

Joined: 18 Nov 2014
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PostPosted: Fri 02 Jan 2015, 19:07    Post subject: unicornpup observations --1  

Hello,

Pro's: it set up my IvyBridge i915 graphics correctly (I use i915.modeset=1 in the grub boot stanza).

Con's: I prefer lxpanel to fbpanel because of lxpanel's combine-all-windows-of-a-given-type-into-a-single-taskbar-entry feature. And, a firewall state indicator in the system tray probably should be included, even though it's a barebones spin. And, I notice the PPM is drawing from the puppy-tahr-official repository, puppy-unicorn-official is grayed out, is this an error?

Otherwise, liking it a lot so far.
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oui

Joined: 20 May 2005
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Location: near Woof (Germany) :-) Acer Laptop emachines 2 GB RAM AMD64. franco-/germanophone, +/- anglophone

PostPosted: Sat 03 Jan 2015, 10:04    Post subject:  

Hi

I am really seduced!

but why new dependences included (includes xchat, netsurf browser, rgbpaint, peasymp3 audio player, pburn, geany, urxvt) instead to make a really all modular system where all packages excepted only one (CLI-) editor and (CLI-) browser / internet / network as well as Rox, are to be added as the user really wishes!

as *.pet and remastering
or as *.sfs eventually with the RSH's modular system allowing more than 6 SFS.

and the presetting of

save before quit [yes] / no

is nonsens and will definitively stay to be nonsens:

users not willing to save are needing to change the presetting default choice EACH time they use those ISO's to spare users willing to save to do it ONLY ONCE Twisted Evil Embarassed brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr ...

but, ok,

CtrlAltBckspace + CtrlAltDel

solves that little inconvenient.

Kind rgds
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PostPosted: Sun 04 Jan 2015, 06:01    Post subject:  

A small "feature" when running on my HP laptop / Intel graphics....

Dropping out to terminal causes display to go to 50% brightness

Can be fixed by:
echo 10 > /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness

Cheers
peebee

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PostPosted: Sun 04 Jan 2015, 07:05    Post subject: "Experimental" unicornpup derivative  

"Experimental" unicornpup derivative:

LxPupUnicorn-15.1 kernel 3.17.7-pae

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