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gjuhasz


Joined: 29 Sep 2008
Posts: 422

PostPosted: Tue 26 Nov 2019, 14:19    Post subject:  

mikeslr wrote:
Puli's modules --mild, rigorous, crazy, lazy-- for dealing with intruders are all bash scripts which install to the top level of the file system and so could be easily located and compromised if permission limitations were circumvented.


Hm.

If you boot Puli in Lazy mode, and while the /bin folder is being renamed to, let's say, "Hарру_Nеw_Yеаr" or even to a more complex string, the toolset of a malicious intruder becomes very limited or unusable.

Have fun!

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gjuhasz
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mikeslr


Joined: 16 Jun 2008
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PostPosted: Sat 07 Dec 2019, 01:50    Post subject:  

Hi gjuhasz,

It's been a while since I set up a USB-Key with Puli. So, thought it best to review the instructions.
III. For advanced users, Paragraph 2, regarding smartload, says "Puli seeks those referenced packages in the /packages folder of the boot device and auto-loads them during bootup". With Puli 7.1, no "packages" folder is within the zip file, nor created by 'unzipping'. Is its creation something for the user to do? Or has the need for it been discontinued. I sort of remember that in an earlier "Bark", smartload looked for files on the partition.

I noticed that among the SFS you've provided at SourceForge you have Iron, but not Opera. I'm sure opera will run under Puli 7.1 as it runs under Xenialpup64 (also Bionicpup64). I'm interested in Opera as it provides a free VPN. I wonder what your thoughts are about regarding its use under Puli.
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gjuhasz


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PostPosted: Sun 08 Dec 2019, 18:14    Post subject: Supported browsers in Puli  

Dear mikeslr,

mikeslr wrote:
With Puli 7.1, no "packages" folder is within the zip file, nor created by 'unzipping'. Is its creation something for the user to do?


Thanks for the notification. Puli seeks the referenced packages in this folder by default. An (empty) /packages folder will appear in the zip file of the next updates.

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I noticed that among the SFS you've provided at SourceForge you have Iron, but not Opera. I'm sure opera will run under Puli 7.1 as it runs under Xenialpup64 (also Bionicpup64). I'm interested in Opera as it provides a free VPN. I wonder what your thoughts are about regarding its use under Puli.


As you know, Google discontinued supporting hardware acceleration a few months ago causing extremely slow motion in my favorite WebGL sites like http://madebyevan.com/webgl-water/.

So, we have three choices to survive:

1) Use the current versions of the Chromium flavors (including Opera) with closed eyes while visiting slowmo sites.

2) Use earlier versions that enable h/w acceleration

3) Use Firefox or its relatives such as Pale Moon.

I try do my best to keep Puli compatible with the popular browsers. Consequently,

ad 1) You may download the current version of Chrome and/or the Chromium based ones such as Iron, Slimjet, Opera, Vivaldi. Puli can (smart)load and flawlessly run any of them, sharing your bookmark set for each. I don't see the advantage of mirroring these official packages in my SourceForge repo.

ad 2) In my repo however, you see an earlier 64-bit Iron version, the latest one which supports hardware acceleration - note that it is more vulnerable than the current one.

ad 3) As Mozilla does not provide .deb or .rpm package for Firefox, we Puppy fans should create pets that may or may not run in all puplets. I have a Puli specific Firefox pet file (nightly flavor, can be sandboxed with Firejail) among the 64-bit packages and try to refresh it regularly. Feel free to download and update its /opt/firefox folder from the current version then repackage it for yourself any time.

The attached screenshot shows that you can run more than one browser instances in Puli simultaneously, e.g., the current Opera, the earlier Iron, and a Firefox nightly version.

Have fun!

Regards,

gjuhasz
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mikeslr


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PostPosted: Thu 12 Dec 2019, 13:20    Post subject: Instructions -- readme-710.html  

Hi gjuhasz,

I think I'm beginning to understand how to fully implement the advantages you've built into Puli. In part, that's a result of your recent guidance. But also, to a large extent I chanced upon a file you named readme-710.html at SOURCEFORGE.

There have been some changes since you started this thread in December 2014. A large part of my confusion resulted from my decision to read thru the thread from its beginning. I strongly recommend that you edit the First post to point to the readme-710.html file. Less strongly, perhaps you could include something like it in /root/my-documents [or /usr/share/doc] in future versions of Pul with perhaps a desktop icon or menu entryi: once setup a User wouldn't have to access the internet to find answers to many questions.

Sorry that I can't give you a url reference to it. As I wrote, I changed upon it and have had the devil of a time trying to find it again.
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6502coder


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PostPosted: Thu 12 Dec 2019, 13:57    Post subject:  

http://smokey01.com/gjuhasz/readme-710.html
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gjuhasz


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PostPosted: Wed 01 Jan 2020, 17:23    Post subject: Announcement: Puli 7.2  

Dear Puli users,

Happy New Year!

I am proud to announce the new, 64-bit Puli 7.2.

The main files are available at http://smokey01.com/gjuhasz/Puli-7.2_Jan2020/.

Installation instructions and detailed description of the new version can be found at http://smokey01.com/gjuhasz/readme-720.html and on the first page of this forum thread.

The latest Pulis are mirrored and many external 32/64 bit packages are regularly updated in the shared folder structure at

https://sourceforge.net/projects/puppyszoftver/files/Puli/.

Changes include a more flexible postXload feature:

- postXload is configurable from the smartload files
- the .sfs packages can be postXloaded

The new version contains updated references and bug fixes, too.

See the first page of this thread for details of Puli features and usage.

You can track the evolution of the Puli versions by browsing this forum thread and/or by comparing the readme files at http://www.smokey01.com/gjuhasz.


Have fun!

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gjuhasz
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gjuhasz


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PostPosted: Wed 08 Jan 2020, 05:55    Post subject:  

Dear Puli users,

A Puli specific OpenOffice-417_64hup.sfs is downloadable from:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/puppyszoftver/files/Puli/Puli-64bit/packages/

You can see the current version of other office suites there, too:

- LibreOffice-6.3.4_64hu.sfs
- softmaker18-973_64hup.sfs

Tested with Puli 7.2 but probably run with many other puplets.

Have fun!

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gjuhasz
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gjuhasz


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PostPosted: Sun 19 Jan 2020, 14:23    Post subject: Switching between security profiles
Subject description: Change the security profile on-the-fly without restarting X or rebooting
 

Dear Puli users,

I received a couple of questions in a PM:
Quote:
(1) Is there any way to change the security profile without file-browsing into the USB-Stick?
(2) Can the security profile still be changed without restarting-x or rebooting?

I created a small pet package that swithces between different security profiles. Compatible with the latest 32-bit (v6.0.2) and 64-bit (v7.1 and v7.2) Pulis. See attached.

After installed, you will see three options in the right-click -> Setup menu:

- Switch to Mild
- Switch to Rigorous
- Switch to Crazy

Be careful: select the profile that best matches with the environment and the visited site(s).

Have fun!

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gjuhasz


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PostPosted: Mon 03 Feb 2020, 17:11    Post subject: Cliqz browser  

Based on the inspirations of Mike Walsh at

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=117835,

I played with Cliqz browser in Puli 7.2, and I really like it. Cliqz is nice and fast.

The "factory default" .deb file can be smartloaded and runs well without any hiccup.

Have fun!

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gjuhasz
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gjuhasz


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PostPosted: Sun 09 Feb 2020, 19:51    Post subject: WebGL support returned in Chrome 80  

Dear Puli users,

Good news: WebGL support returned in the new Chrome 80 version. Tested with Puli 7.2.
I expect that Iron, Slimjet and other Chromium based ones will be updated soon.
Smartload the officlal google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb file and visit http://madebyevan.com/webgl-water/

Please don't forget to configure your environment according to your best interest, i.e., what to share or report while browsing.

Have fun!

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gjuhasz
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gjuhasz


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PostPosted: Fri 24 Apr 2020, 12:47    Post subject: Puli 7.3 - educational version  

Dear Puli users,

Nowadays, many of us, including our children and their teachers are working from home due to the COVID-19 related restrictions.
Based on the discussions with some stakeholders, I created a 64-bit Puli educational version (HU only), tailored from the on-horizon Puli 7.3

See in the folder

https://sourceforge.net/projects/puppyszoftver/files/Puli/Puli-64bit/Puli-7.3_Apr2020/

and in the forum thread at

https://skamilinux.hu/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=7&p=8852#p8852

Announcement of 7.3 with new features and more details are expected here in a couple of months.

Take care and have fun!

Best regards,

gjuhasz

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PostPosted: Tue 28 Apr 2020, 20:16    Post subject: Puli 7.3 - educational version
Subject description: Bug fixes
 

Dear Puli users,

I found a couple of bugs Embarassed in the just announced (Apr 24) educational version:

* An ancient SNS bug returned. (Fixed the same way as I did in the earlier Pulis.)
* Obsolete router info raised difficulties in recognizing the user's valid data. (Purged.)

You can find the updated install material at

https://sourceforge.net/projects/puppyszoftver/files/Puli/Puli-64bit/Puli-7.3_Apr2020/.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Take care and have fun!

Best regards,

gjuhasz
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gjuhasz


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PostPosted: Tue 19 May 2020, 06:48    Post subject: Re: Puli 7.3 - educational version
Subject description: Final version uploaded
 

Dear Puli users,

I released the final 7.3 educational package:

* New team collaboration links added.

* Firefox updated to version 76.0.1

* LibreOffice downloader "pulified", old bug fixed

You can find the updated install material at

https://sourceforge.net/projects/puppyszoftver/files/Puli/Puli-64bit/Puli-7.3_Apr2020/.

The general-purpose flavor of Puli 7.3 will appear in the same SourceForge repository soon.

In addition, I tested the latest version of many applications. See them at
https://sourceforge.net/projects/puppyszoftver/files/Puli/Puli-64bit/packages/ folder.

Take care and have fun!

Best regards,

gjuhasz
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Karambol

Joined: 22 May 2020
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PostPosted: Fri 22 May 2020, 10:32    Post subject:    

Hello.

I want to try but LinuxLive USB Creator does not see the downloaded archive.

Also, I am a bit worried about it: https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/6ec00c268cc79d375dfcaf6b9d81247346ff374392c7db65d359482a24c8f0ea/detection
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bullpup

Joined: 17 May 2020
Posts: 46
Location: Netherlands

PostPosted: Sun 24 May 2020, 07:31    Post subject:  

Hello Puli.

I am very interested in this Puppy but I can't seem to get it installed. I have no windows machine so I can't use the tools you point to in your first post.
I have tried several Linux Image writing tools to no avail (yet).

I keep getting messages like "no frugal install files found at sdb'x'" or "no boot records written to sdb'x' ".

Really want to run this distro but been trying to get it to run for almost 2 days now. Any help would be appreciated. Smile
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