LxPupSc64 - 64bit version of Puppy with the LXDE desktop
The fatdog kernel 3.18.7 should be fine for what you want, and it ships with fewer unnecessary modules and firmware. It has been very carefully configured. sukk (stems-unattended-kernel-kit) allows you to modify the configuration and build your own kernel with a custom appendage. I often use the fatdog kernel as a reliable replacement when I mess my system up with experiments. But i do like to have the latest version number with a custom appendage.
From: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=94430Q5sys wrote:peebee,
I apologize if you mentioned this previously and i missed it when reading. Are you using the Slackware64 14.1 Stable Branch or the Slackware64 14.Current Branch?
how stable they are - IDKnow using slackware64-14.1 binaries
LxPup = Puppy + LXDE
Main version used daily: LxPupSc; Assembler of UPups, ScPup & ScPup64, LxPup, LxPupSc & LxPupSc64
Main version used daily: LxPupSc; Assembler of UPups, ScPup & ScPup64, LxPup, LxPupSc & LxPupSc64
Ah yea, I the part about being based on the slacko version. Thanks.peebee wrote:From: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=94430Q5sys wrote:peebee,
I apologize if you mentioned this previously and i missed it when reading. Are you using the Slackware64 14.1 Stable Branch or the Slackware64 14.Current Branch?
how stable they are - IDKnow using slackware64-14.1 binaries
No need to be concerned; 14.1 is very stable. It's Slackware... its stable.
Re: Kernel
Hi VolhoutVolhout wrote:Is it possible to create an iso (no need for UEFI) with kernell 3.18.5 or later.
Have tried both the 3.19.0-64 and 3.18.6-64 kernels as provided by stemsee (thanks) and the 3.18.7 kernel from Fatdog64.
All work - but the 3.19 version doesn't have wifi firmware and is set to verbose boot so the 3.18.6 or 3.18.7 versions are probably "better" for your purposes.
Try them for yourself.....on a (fresh) frugal install:
1. download https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4GhZV ... 3RmbFhHa0U
2. extract the vmlinuz and kernel-modules.sfs
3. move them to your frugal install folder and rename kernel-modules.sfs to zdrv_lxpup64_14.12.sfs
4. boot the updated system and test
If you want to try the Fatdog64 3.18.7 kernel as suggested by stemsee get it from:
http://ftp.nluug.nl/ftp/pub/os/Linux/di ... rnels/700/
Cheers
peebee
Last edited by peebee on Sun 08 Mar 2015, 07:29, edited 1 time in total.
LxPup = Puppy + LXDE
Main version used daily: LxPupSc; Assembler of UPups, ScPup & ScPup64, LxPup, LxPupSc & LxPupSc64
Main version used daily: LxPupSc; Assembler of UPups, ScPup & ScPup64, LxPup, LxPupSc & LxPupSc64
Could always try here http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=97276.stemsee wrote:Just copy the wifi firmware from anywhere if you want to use the 3.19.0 kernel
gyro
There is a slight variation for adding kernel modules/firmware/libc6/glibcc etc copy them (expanded) into your save file/dir. This way you can keep both sets of modules (previous and new) without renaming or moving the zdrv_kernel-modules.sfs, and have two kernels with slightly different names to boot with.
LxPupApril64
LxPupApril64-15.04
VERY EXPERIMENTAL!!
USE WITH CAUTION
.pets to add LxPup to Quirky April-7.0.3 64 bit to create LxPupApril64-15.04 have been uploaded.
There are 2 pets - the first large one installs all the necessary components
The 2nd "setup" pet makes the system changes and activates LXDE (LXDE can be deactivated by uninstalling this pet)
The component pet is rather large due to the way it is constructed using the Porteus 64-bit LXDE module - if you install onto a frugal install of April64 you will need more than 2GB of ram.
I haven't managed to get pup-volume-monitor working on April64 so instead there is an icon on the desktop called "drives" which runs pmount. From pmount you can mount and access drives and then in PCManFM (version 1.2.3) you can use the bookmark feature to remember the mounted drive/partition. (see screenie)
There is also a "save" icon on the desktop to save a session image back into q.sfs when running a frugal install
There is no install icon as I've assumed that the pets would be loaded onto a version of April64 that has already been frugally installed. Use the "Run" menu item to run installquirky.amd64 if you want to install from within LxPup.
The pets can however be installed onto a live session of April64 to test (if you've got enough ram)
All my testing has been on my desktop with 4GB ram with a frugal install of Quirky-April7.0-64
Mainly a proof of concept to see how much could be achieved using April64 as the base.
Cheers
peebee
Pet links:
Components: lxpup4april64-15.04.pet
Setup: lxpupsetup-qa64.15.04.pet
VERY EXPERIMENTAL!!
USE WITH CAUTION
.pets to add LxPup to Quirky April-7.0.3 64 bit to create LxPupApril64-15.04 have been uploaded.
There are 2 pets - the first large one installs all the necessary components
The 2nd "setup" pet makes the system changes and activates LXDE (LXDE can be deactivated by uninstalling this pet)
The component pet is rather large due to the way it is constructed using the Porteus 64-bit LXDE module - if you install onto a frugal install of April64 you will need more than 2GB of ram.
I haven't managed to get pup-volume-monitor working on April64 so instead there is an icon on the desktop called "drives" which runs pmount. From pmount you can mount and access drives and then in PCManFM (version 1.2.3) you can use the bookmark feature to remember the mounted drive/partition. (see screenie)
There is also a "save" icon on the desktop to save a session image back into q.sfs when running a frugal install
There is no install icon as I've assumed that the pets would be loaded onto a version of April64 that has already been frugally installed. Use the "Run" menu item to run installquirky.amd64 if you want to install from within LxPup.
The pets can however be installed onto a live session of April64 to test (if you've got enough ram)
All my testing has been on my desktop with 4GB ram with a frugal install of Quirky-April7.0-64
Mainly a proof of concept to see how much could be achieved using April64 as the base.
Cheers
peebee
Pet links:
Components: lxpup4april64-15.04.pet
Setup: lxpupsetup-qa64.15.04.pet
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Last edited by peebee on Tue 14 Apr 2015, 06:37, edited 1 time in total.
LxPup = Puppy + LXDE
Main version used daily: LxPupSc; Assembler of UPups, ScPup & ScPup64, LxPup, LxPupSc & LxPupSc64
Main version used daily: LxPupSc; Assembler of UPups, ScPup & ScPup64, LxPup, LxPupSc & LxPupSc64
LxPup64-15.03.01-hybrid.iso
LxPup64-15.03.01-hybrid.iso is available for download
The following are updated / changed:
Kernel is updated to 3.18.7 from fatdog64
PcManFM / libfm & lxpanel @ latest versions (1.2.3 & 0.8.0)
openssl, ppm2, pfind / pfilesearch, pup-sys-info, yassm updated
gnumeric / goffice fixed
new default background
.desktop file (shortcut) editing activated
Cheers
peebee
The following are updated / changed:
Kernel is updated to 3.18.7 from fatdog64
PcManFM / libfm & lxpanel @ latest versions (1.2.3 & 0.8.0)
openssl, ppm2, pfind / pfilesearch, pup-sys-info, yassm updated
gnumeric / goffice fixed
new default background
.desktop file (shortcut) editing activated
Cheers
peebee
Last edited by peebee on Fri 22 May 2015, 10:43, edited 1 time in total.
LxPup = Puppy + LXDE
Main version used daily: LxPupSc; Assembler of UPups, ScPup & ScPup64, LxPup, LxPupSc & LxPupSc64
Main version used daily: LxPupSc; Assembler of UPups, ScPup & ScPup64, LxPup, LxPupSc & LxPupSc64
LxPUP 15.03 on C720
Dear PeeBee,
I was happy to see that you released the image with the FatDog kernel before I had started to try and exchange the kernel for the FatDog one.
LxPup 15.03 boots on the ACER C720, but the first obstacle is that the touchpad does not work (it does on FatDog however). This is an uncommon touchpad, I think it is I2C, and since it works in FatDog, I assume it is part of this kernel.
I will search for a mouse, and do some more testing this evening.
I was happy to see that you released the image with the FatDog kernel before I had started to try and exchange the kernel for the FatDog one.
LxPup 15.03 boots on the ACER C720, but the first obstacle is that the touchpad does not work (it does on FatDog however). This is an uncommon touchpad, I think it is I2C, and since it works in FatDog, I assume it is part of this kernel.
I will search for a mouse, and do some more testing this evening.
LxPUP 15.03 on C720
Some more info on C720 compatibility for LxPup 15.03
(dmesg):
"New USB device found, idVendor=0489, idProduct=e056"
Some error messages, and then is segfaults.
EDIT: checked the DMESG from fatdog, and they already have some lines where they specifically check on chromebooks. So this may be part of their init scripts...
(dmesg):
"New USB device found, idVendor=0489, idProduct=e056"
Some error messages, and then is segfaults.
EDIT: checked the DMESG from fatdog, and they already have some lines where they specifically check on chromebooks. So this may be part of their init scripts...
15.03.01
Upgrade of LXPup-64-14.12.02-hybrid with LXPup-64-15.03.01-hybrid.
Upgrade went well !
First test was printing, worked as before (after the extra .pet was installed on previous version). I also tested printing from a ram-only install of 15-03-01 and it worked OOTB after installing the hplip file from the PPM but, still no xsane scan this way... even downloaded the special xsane scanner program in the PPM... no go.
Second test was for xsane scanner on the new 15.03.01 install... still does not work!
I had FirefoxESR installed on 14.12.02 with an icon in the LX pannel. After installing the Chromium-41 w/pepperflash I decided to eliminated Firefox. A right/click on the Firefox icon, selected delete and got a message this would not be recoverable. Thinking it would be only the Firefox icon that would be deleted I selected OK and that's when the entire bottom LX pannel disappeared.
Is there anyway to recover this?
Still believe this build shows potential... Testing continues
>>>---Indian------>
Upgrade went well !
First test was printing, worked as before (after the extra .pet was installed on previous version). I also tested printing from a ram-only install of 15-03-01 and it worked OOTB after installing the hplip file from the PPM but, still no xsane scan this way... even downloaded the special xsane scanner program in the PPM... no go.
Second test was for xsane scanner on the new 15.03.01 install... still does not work!
I had FirefoxESR installed on 14.12.02 with an icon in the LX pannel. After installing the Chromium-41 w/pepperflash I decided to eliminated Firefox. A right/click on the Firefox icon, selected delete and got a message this would not be recoverable. Thinking it would be only the Firefox icon that would be deleted I selected OK and that's when the entire bottom LX pannel disappeared.
Is there anyway to recover this?
Still believe this build shows potential... Testing continues
>>>---Indian------>
Cloud Computing For Every Puppy (a .pet)
[url]http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=69192[/url]
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Re: 15.03.01
Hi sszindiansszindian wrote:I decided to eliminated Firefox. A right/click on the Firefox icon, selected delete and got a message this would not be recoverable. Thinking it would be only the Firefox icon that would be deleted I selected OK and that's when the entire bottom LX pannel disappeared.
Is there anyway to recover this?
Thanks for testing.
The panel can't truly be deleted as its in the puppy.sfs at:
/root/.config/lxpanel/LXDE/panels/panel
There will be a whiteout file "hiding" it.
You can see all the whiteout files from:
System -> System -> Pup-SysInfo -> Sys files -> .wh files
You need to either delete the .wh file from your savefolder or copy the panel file back from the .sfs - then restart the window manager.
Cheers
peebee
LxPup = Puppy + LXDE
Main version used daily: LxPupSc; Assembler of UPups, ScPup & ScPup64, LxPup, LxPupSc & LxPupSc64
Main version used daily: LxPupSc; Assembler of UPups, ScPup & ScPup64, LxPup, LxPupSc & LxPupSc64
Re: 15.03.01
If this was a 32-bit Pupplet, where would you go for print/scan drivers?sszindian wrote:Second test was for xsane scanner on the new 15.03.01 install... still does not work!
You need a source of similar 64-bit drivers, like here.
Scanner
@rcrsn51
Installed the hplip_scan_fd600-3.14.4.pet and the foo2xxx_fd600-2014.04.26.pet from the FatDog Repo and that did the trick for the scanner (not really sure the foo2xxx was needed but since all is well I left it in)... works fine now, the print-function worked fine with the hplip package downloaded from the PPM so left that alone... 'BUT' let me ask you... how would any individual ever know this without the expertise you possess? 'AND' how can peebee address this issue in his build?
@peebee:
Deleted the .wt file, did the trick, back to testing.
Oh... before I forget, I installed conky and for the fun of it tried installing conky-switcher 03 I picked up somewhere. On startup the conky I installed briefly shows on the desktop--- it is in fact there but it's gone like a flash then any suggestions?
'Thanks all'
>>>---Indian------>
Installed the hplip_scan_fd600-3.14.4.pet and the foo2xxx_fd600-2014.04.26.pet from the FatDog Repo and that did the trick for the scanner (not really sure the foo2xxx was needed but since all is well I left it in)... works fine now, the print-function worked fine with the hplip package downloaded from the PPM so left that alone... 'BUT' let me ask you... how would any individual ever know this without the expertise you possess? 'AND' how can peebee address this issue in his build?
@peebee:
Deleted the .wt file, did the trick, back to testing.
Oh... before I forget, I installed conky and for the fun of it tried installing conky-switcher 03 I picked up somewhere. On startup the conky I installed briefly shows on the desktop--- it is in fact there but it's gone like a flash then any suggestions?
'Thanks all'
>>>---Indian------>
Cloud Computing For Every Puppy (a .pet)
[url]http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=69192[/url]
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Re: Scanner
Foo2xxx has nothing to do with HP scanners. Its purpose is described in the "How to Install your Printer" document.sszindian wrote:not really sure the foo2xxx was needed but since all is well I left it in
In many Puppies, the first screen of the CUPS Wizard provides a link to "How to Install your Printer".how would any individual ever know this without the expertise you possess? 'AND' how can peebee address this issue in his build?
When was the last time you saw the announcement of a new Puppy where there was ANY mention of a source for compatible print/scan drivers?
Re: Scanner
Not sure, but I've experienced some conkys that did that because the conkyrc/config file was calling for a hardware process that didn't exist on the computer I was trying it on - usually i.e.; conky attempting to display 8-core CPU use on my 2-core laptop, or CPU temp on an older proc that didn't support temperature sensing, etc.sszindian wrote: On startup the conky I installed briefly shows on the desktop--- it is in fact there but it's gone like a flash then any suggestions?
Usually, removing those particular incompatible code lines from from the conkyrc would allow the "rest" of the conky to function normally, and remain displayed.
FWIW!
Bob
Conky
'Thanks Moat'
A simple change of one-line did the trick
own_window_type override
to
own_window_type normal
So conky-switcher works great in LXPup!
>>>---Indian------>
A simple change of one-line did the trick
own_window_type override
to
own_window_type normal
So conky-switcher works great in LXPup!
>>>---Indian------>
Cloud Computing For Every Puppy (a .pet)
[url]http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=69192[/url]
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Get mtpaint to print
To get mtpaint to print
Go to: http://distro.ibiblio.org/fatdog/pets/500/
and download the file-
gtklp-1.2.8-amd64.pet
After installing, go to: mtpaint select file, select actions, select configure, select Print image on the dropdown list then change the command dialog-box from kprint %f to gtklp %f
Prints very nice! (remember to load something to print )
>>>---Indian------>
Go to: http://distro.ibiblio.org/fatdog/pets/500/
and download the file-
gtklp-1.2.8-amd64.pet
After installing, go to: mtpaint select file, select actions, select configure, select Print image on the dropdown list then change the command dialog-box from kprint %f to gtklp %f
Prints very nice! (remember to load something to print )
>>>---Indian------>
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[url]http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=69192[/url]
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