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LxPupSc64-18.06

#256 Post by peebee »

LxPupSc64-18.06 - iso, devx and kernel sources & headers

- kernel 4.17.0
- Slackware64-Current to Sat Jun 9 16:57:58 UTC 2018
- BUILD_FROM_WOOF='master;1873fb0;2018-06-08 22:06:23 +0800'

No delta from 18.04 (too big).

Lots of changes from both Woof-CE and Slackware64-Current.....PCManFM update to 1.3.0 may cause issues with panels if you've updated them....
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LxPupSc64-18.06

#257 Post by Marv »

Updated from 18.04 +2 on my i5 laptop. Obviously hadn't been in the 64b world for a bit. Standard Grub4Dos install to SSD with 256Mb EXT2 savefile, scrubbed and checked before update. PCManFM panel item needed to be reloaded as noted. No other glitches seen. glxgears FPS excellent, Ath9 WIFI connection preserved. No optical drive on this i5 so no tests of that. It's beat up, was rescued from the parts bin, but wonderous light and somehow my favorite.

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Display Specifications:
• Monitor VertRefresh: 60.00 times/s
• Screen Dimensions: 1366x768 pixels (361x203 millimeters)
• Screen Depth: 24 bits (planes)

Xorg Startup Log (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
• Xorg Driver in use: intel
• Loaded Modules: dbe dri2 dri3 evdev fbdev glx libinput present synaptics
• X.Org version: 1.20.0

OpenGL 2D/3D Rendering:
• Direct Rendering: Yes
• Vendor: Intel Open Source Technology Center
• Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel(R) Sandybridge Mobile 
• Version: 3.0 Mesa 18.1.1

VGA controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0126] (rev 09)
• Kernel Driver: i915
• Memory Used by Driver: 1184.00 KB
• Path: /lib/modules/4.17.0-lxpup64/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/i915.ko
• Description: Intel Graphics
• Video RAM: 256M
Mitigation on this i5 as expected. I could load the newest intel microcode and try for spec_store_bypass mitigation but I really distrust the new microcode almost as much as the vulnerability so...

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meltdown	: Mitigation	: PTI
spec_store_bypass	: Vulnerable
spectre_v1	: Mitigation	: __user pointer sanitization
spectre_v2	: Mitigation	: Full generic retpoline
I'm running Slimjet 19.0.2.0 64b as an SFS. Downloaded from slimjet, configured as all the run-as-spots and added the missing libs using your chromium64_67.0.3396.79 pepper_30.0.0.113_lx_spot.sfs. Starts and runs smoothly and picks up my shared (32b and 64b) slimjet profile with no problems. Updated that browser at this time as the 64b slimjet I was running was old enough to have conflicts with the 19.0.2.0 version profile from the 32 bit pups.

Long story short-looks good.

Thanks,

Edit: Latest (04/25/2018) intel microcode package loaded. This kernel is configured to allow 'late' loading so it's pretty simple. 'Updated' code confirmed as loaded:

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microcode: updated to revision 0x2d, date = 2018-02-07
core: PEBS enabled due to microcode update
No change in spec_store_bypass mitigation seen on this second generation i5.
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LxPup64 - 64bit versions of Puppy with the LXDE desktop

#258 Post by Billtoo »

I installed to a 32gb usb-3.0 flash drive:

video-info-glx 1.5.3 Tue 12 Jun 2018 on LxPupSc64 18.06 Linux 4.17.0-lxpup64 x86_64
0.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF108 [GeForce GT 430] (rev a1)

X Server: Xorg Driver: nvidia
X.Org version: 1.20.0
dimensions: 1600x900 pixels (442x251 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: GeForce GT 430/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL core profile version string: 4.4.0 NVIDIA 340.107

Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3550 CPU @ 3.30GHz
Core 0: @2447 1: @2280 2: @2341 3: @2103 MHz

@peebee - would you upload a kernel headers pet please?
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#259 Post by peebee »

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#260 Post by peebee »

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#261 Post by peebee »

Interim delta to 18.06+1

iso md5 = 221eab37bdb663a21a5bf22a46f6cdfc lxpupsc64-18.06+1.iso

also new devx with GCC-8.1.1
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#262 Post by Marv »

Updated 18.06 to 18.06.1 on the i5 laptop below. Run first with the stock kernel and then with your lxpupsc64 4.17.5. All md5sums ok, sound, video, sns wifi, etc all ok after update with either kernel. Continuing to use 64b Slimjet 18.0.5.0 run-as-spot from SFS. All good there. No real difference noted in video FPS or system load at idle between kernels. Latest intel ucode downloaded and installed (microcode-20180703.tgz). Install checked with dmesg. Still no new enough code from intel for mitigation for spec_store_bypass on the second gen i5. Not surprised...

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meltdown	: Mitigation	: PTI
spec_store_bypass	: Vulnerable
spectre_v1	: Mitigation	: __user pointer sanitization
spectre_v2	: Mitigation	: Full generic retpoline

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# inxi -bw
System:    Host: puppypc395 Kernel: 4.17.5-lxpup64 x86_64 bits: 64
           Desktop: LXDE (Openbox 3.6.1) Distro: LxPupSc64 18.06
Machine:   Device: laptop System: FUJITSU product: LIFEBOOK S761 serial: R2500459
           Mobo: FUJITSU model: FJNB225 serial: N/A
           UEFI [Legacy]: FUJITSU // Phoenix v: Version 1.17 date: 03/14/2012
Battery    CMB1: charge: 62.2 Wh 100.0% condition: 62.2/62.2 Wh (100%)
CPU:       Dual core Intel Core i5-2520M (-HT-MCP-) speed/max: 797/2501 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel 2nd Generation Core Integrated Graphics Controller
           Display Server: X.Org 1.20.0
           drivers: intel (unloaded: modesetting,vesa) FAILED: fbdev
           Resolution: 1366x768@60.00hz
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Sandybridge Mobile
           version: 3.3 Mesa 18.1.3
Network:   Card: Qualcomm Atheros AR9287 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express)
           driver: ath9k
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 120.0GB (29.7% used)
Weather:   Conditions: 80 F (27 C) - Clear Time: July 9, 11:19 AM CDT
Info:      Processes: 154 Uptime: 10 min Memory: 325.7/4789.9MB
           Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.40 
# 
Thanks,

Edit: No optical drive in my i5 at the time of this test, so no tests reported on that. Should have noted that explicitly.
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#263 Post by peebee »

Interim delta to 18.06+2

iso md5 = b5f781242ea8cbe598f5188913c7edc4 lxpupsc64-18.06+2.iso

also new devx with GCC-8.2.0

This version will autoplay audio cds and video dvds however these items are not displayed in pcmanfm so have to be physically ejected. It is thought that a new 64-bit pup-volume-monitor build is need to fix, however whereas pvm-0.1.17 appears to build succesfully it does not run correctly and bombs pcmanfm.....
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#264 Post by Marv »

Autoplay confirmed in 18.06 +2, both CDs and DVDs on the i5 based laptop. Done both for a pristine boot and for my updated savefile using the 64b 4.17.10 kernel. Audio CD can be ejected from pmusic, No eject capibility in gnome-mplayer for DVD that I see.

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#265 Post by peebee »

Interim delta to 18.06+3

iso md5 = 3f49b49f6c173f029062780733e042f7 lxpupsc64-18.06+3.iso

Just Slackware64 Current updates - no change on the cd/dvd front....
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#266 Post by peebee »

Interim delta to 18.06+4

iso md5 = f3a74966f748463d2b6556f9f64ebfdd lxpupsc64-18.06+4.iso

Just Slackware64 Current updates - including OpenSSL: 1.1.0i 14 Aug 2018

Later 64-bit kernels (4.18.x) are available
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#267 Post by peebee »

Interim delta to 18.06+5

iso md5 = 1037982fdc5d809922dcca1e51063dce lxpupsc64-18.06+5.iso

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Later 64-bit kernels (4.18.x) are available
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#268 Post by Marv »

SSD based frugal Grub4Dos 18.06.4 install on the Fujitsu S761 i5 based laptop updated to 18.06.5 using the delta. md5sum correct, no problems seen with update or when swapping in the 64b 4.18.5 kernel to the update (All 4.18.x have been fine on the i5 and I haven't run any on the core 2 duos or Bay Trails where problems have been reported). I'm back to my own laptop with no optical drive again so no CD or DVD tests. I do add the current regulatory.db to /lib/firmware to squelch that error line in Dmesg. The kernel loads that directly now. I'd use this as my daily but I miss QTWebBrowser (32b only) as my fallback browser and it's not worth running the compatibility libs. SSD to memory throughput in this is significantly better than any of the 32 bit pups I'm running now. Really shows on first run of larger SFS based progs.
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Lxpupsc1806+5 - some success

#269 Post by davids45 »

G'day peebee,

I've now got your latest LxPupSc1806+5 set up with most (if not all) my wanted apps running (screenshot).

For me, this was as hard as BionicPup1805+12 was easy. I'm still uncomfortable with 64-bit Pups and applications, particularly the complex lib directories.

As I did with BionicPup1805+12, I made a manual frugal of this latest LxPupSc via a delta and then used the savefile from my previous LxPupSc1806+3 in the new 1806+5 frugal which went without a problem.

Minor issues:
1) clutter of left panel ('Places') when trying to 'Open File' because of all my computer partitions (screenshot); fixed by removing the permission on /etc/init.d/start-pup-volume-monitor (screenshot with tidy left panel)
2) Rox is set up so 'Last modified' column is inconveniently placed to the right hand edge of the window (screenshot); as a Puppy user, I have no need of the 'Permissions', 'Owner' etc columns, but frequently need to check on when my files were modified and the file's 'Size' so like these columns 'centre stage', if not 'stage left'; woodenshoe's latest Rox version allows the columns to be dragged around but the changes are not persistent - a new Rox window has the same poor original lay-out. So this problem of mine is not one I have so far worked out how to fix

I apologise if I have missed reporting anything else I did in getting this Pup running as well as it now does - mostly it was getting my 64-bit sfs apps to behave and work, not any direct problem in your LxPupSc18.06+5.

Thanks for your ongoing work with this 64-bit Pup as well as the (for me, better trained) 32-bitser.

David S.
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#270 Post by peebee »

Hi DavidS

You are using LxPupSc64 in a way that was not really intended....

It's meant to be used with the LXDE desktop and PcManFM.....JWM and Rox are just there as "fallbacks"....

The version of Rox in LxPupSc64 is NOT the new one from woodenshoe
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ROX in LxPupSc

#271 Post by davids45 »

G'day peebee,

My apologies for the lack of clarity in my post about my inability to set up ROX as I like it in your latest 64-bit LxPupSc.

That Rox (as the fortunate-for-me fallback in your LxPupSc Pups) doesn't allow movement of the column lay-out from the default.
So I ran woodenshoe-wi's modified 64-bit ROX pet in the hope of a lay-out fix.
I could move the columns with this pet installed but not permanently as each new ROX opened had the old default lay-out.

And I had forgotten that you meant this Pup series to prefer a non-ROX+non-JWM environment; I've been using the previous Pup's savefile with each recent updated version so miss the original first-start-up that earlier I had switched away from each time.
I'm sorry to say I find LXDE and PcManFM a bit too different and cumbersome compared to ROX/JWM - perhaps, it's just a case of the 'devils I know'.

Like you, I would like to see from someone interested, a full 64-bit BionicPup to complement your very nice 32-bit versions.

David S.

Postscript:
Just now, I tried an old 32-bit ROX (that is good in 32-bit Pups with an intractable ROX) in an LxPupSc1806(+3) but the result was not too good :shock: (screenshot) .
So renewing the Pup's savefile and rebooting, in this same Pup, I then tried a 64-bit ROX from another 64-bit Pup (BK's Werewolf) that has my desired default lay-out.
And now it's 'all good' :lol: (screenshot).
The good ROX file (ROX-Filer) I put in the directory /usr/local/apps/ROX-Filer/ , running from a sym-link (screenshot). I could have just copied it over the original ROX-Filer.

So now I have fixes for my minor issues with LxPupSc64 :D while using it in not quite the expected way :oops: .
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#272 Post by peebee »

Interim delta to 18.06+6

iso md5 = 91e58da5e4a7ef5d29c4befe06ffe04f lxpupsc64-18.06+6.iso

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Later 64-bit kernels (4.18.x) are available
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#273 Post by peebee »

Interim delta to 18.06+7

iso md5 = b64f4891e0196221dc210be00712164a lxpupsc64-18.06+7.iso

Just Slackware64 Current updates to Wed Sep 12 21:19:38 UTC 2018

inc. OpenSSL: 1.1.1 11 Sep 2018, built on: Wed Sep 12 19:59:38 2018 UTC

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pcmanfm

#274 Post by westwest »

PCMANFM is displaying chronic freezes on LxPupSc64.

I've reinstalled several times (frugally) with the same result.
This seems to happen when i open a second tab and then try to switch back to the first...

Any help would be appreciated with this very fine pup.

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#275 Post by ozsouth »

Which version of LxPupSc64 are you using, & which kernel? I am using 18.03 with 4.14.47 kernel, & can open several tabs & switch between. (in a terminal, uname -r will give kernel detail). Could also be a video issue - trying the modesetting driver may help. (exit to prompt, run xorgwizard, select modesetting & run xwin).

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