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peebee


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PostPosted: Tue 23 Dec 2014, 16:30    Post subject:  

Ted Dog wrote:
need to borrow isohybrid from FatDog, also efiboot.img


Hi Ted Dog

Thanks for investigating this - trying to follow what you are doing!!!

isohybrid v0.12 is included in Slacko64/LxPup64......

I can work on the back_ground image .png Wink

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PostPosted: Tue 23 Dec 2014, 16:35    Post subject:  

peebee wrote:
See updated post#2

@sszindian:

cups - fix pet in post#2
firewall - setup gives errors (also in Slacko64)
cd/dvd - pmount can be used

@gyro: clarified usb keyboard problem in post#2

@Volhout & @gcmartin:
LH64 has taken the Fatdog64 hybrid iso as the basis of an LH64 hybrid iso as I understand it - I guess it might be possible to do similar for LxPup64 but it would be trial and guesswork to work out what needed to be changed unless we can get guidance from Jamesbond and Kirk. I don't have a uefi pc to test on....any volunteers to try this??

@ally - many thanks - hope there are health warnings that this is very much an experimental alpha derivative.....


I definitely volunteer for testing !!
My PC is UEFI + secure boot, and it boots Fatdog64 (700b2) and *buntu's, but not Proteus, nor Slax.
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PostPosted: Tue 23 Dec 2014, 17:04    Post subject: xsane Scan  

The .pet you provided on page#1 got the printer working and print out a test page just fine however, upon trying the scanner (xsane from menu) it appears the scanner drivers configured the scanner properly because all appears on the screen as it should... then does everything right up to the point of displaying the actual scan then 'BANG' everything disappears from the screen?

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PostPosted: Wed 31 Dec 2014, 07:31    Post subject: LxPup64-14.12.01-hybrid.iso  

Volhout wrote:
Hi PeeBee,
Any chance for UEFI boot on this one ?
Volhout


A hybrid iso version of LxPup64-14.12.02 has been uploaded

Couple of small desktop file fixes.

This is a hybrid iso - I've tested that it bios boots ok - Ted Dog has checked that it uefi boots.

Thanks go to Kirk and JamesBond for the uefi booting mechanism from FatDog64 and to Tazoc for showing how this could then be adapted for Lighthouse64. Thanks also to Ted Dog for helping me do the adaptation for LxPup64.

If you need help in installing, try reading the following guides BUT please note that there are significant differences between LxPup64 and FatDog64 and to a lesser extent between LxPup64 and Lighthouse64. In particular any utilities mentioned may not be available in LxPup64.

http://lhpup.org/help/faqs/uefi-harddrive.html
http://lhpup.org/help/faqs/uefi-flashdrive.html
http://distro.ibiblio.org/fatdog/web/faqs/uefi-harddrive.html

Please pay particular attention to any warnings given on how a Windoze 8 pc should be configured before any installation is attempted as doing it incorrectly could brick your computer!!

Ted Dog has reported that his GPT disk isn't being seen in pcmanfm although it can be used for a savefile.

Previous problems as detailed in the 2nd post are all still there.

Cheers & Happy New Year 2015 Very Happy
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Volhout

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PostPosted: Fri 02 Jan 2015, 06:30    Post subject: secure UEFI boot
Subject description: success
 

Hi PeeBee,

I tried the hybrid iso (burned to USB stick with win32 disk imager) on my Lenovo Flex14 laptop with secure UEFI boot, and LxPup booted to the desktop immediately in correct 1920x1080 resolution !! Perfect !!

Keyboard, sound, and mouse are detected correctly, and so is wired etherent. But wireless is not detected.

The laptop has a intel AC3160 wireless chip. The chip is detected correctly, but the correct firmware cannot be loaded. See attached dmesg output

Code:

Intel(R) Wireless WiFi driver for Linux, in-tree:
Copyright(c) 2003- 2014 Intel Corporation
iwlwifi 0000:02:00.0: irq 43 for MSI/MSI-X
iwlwifi 0000:02:00.0: Direct firmware load for iwlwifi-3160-10.ucode failed with error -2
iwlwifi 0000:02:00.0: Direct firmware load for iwlwifi-3160-9.ucode failed with error -2
iwlwifi 0000:02:00.0: request for firmware file 'iwlwifi-3160-9.ucode' failed.
iwlwifi 0000:02:00.0: Direct firmware load for iwlwifi-3160-8.ucode failed with error -2
iwlwifi 0000:02:00.0: request for firmware file 'iwlwifi-3160-8.ucode' failed.
iwlwifi 0000:02:00.0: no suitable firmware found!


Apparenly there are multiple versions of this AC3160 chip, and 3 firmware versions are tried, but none work. This is identical to FATDOG700B2.

Tried Lubuntu 14.10 dmesg output to compare, kernel 3.16.0, this works with AC-3160 in my laptop. They use a different interrupt number (63 vs 44) and load firmware version 25.222.9.0 (but I cannot see in LxPup dmesg what version this is).

Code:

[   38.621560] Intel(R) Wireless WiFi driver for Linux, in-tree:
[   38.621564] Copyright(c) 2003- 2014 Intel Corporation
[   38.621777] iwlwifi 0000:02:00.0: irq 63 for MSI/MSI-X
[   38.704662] device-mapper: multipath: version 1.7.0 loaded
[   38.762880] iwlwifi 0000:02:00.0: loaded firmware version 25.222.9.0 op_mode iwlmvm
//
[   39.084811] iwlwifi 0000:02:00.0: Detected Intel(R) Dual Band Wireless AC 3160, REV=0x164
[   39.084891] iwlwifi 0000:02:00.0: L1 Enabled; Disabling L0S
[   39.085245] iwlwifi 0000:02:00.0: L1 Enabled; Disabling L0S
//
[   39.818015] iwlwifi 0000:02:00.0: L1 Enabled; Disabling L0S
[   39.818382] iwlwifi 0000:02:00.0: L1 Enabled; Disabling L0S
[   39.841885] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready
//
[  116.664386] wlan0: authenticate with e0:91:f5:ac:ac:c4
[  116.667389] wlan0: send auth to e0:91:f5:ac:ac:c4 (try 1/3)
[  116.669169] wlan0: authenticated
[  116.669415] iwlwifi 0000:02:00.0 wlan0: disabling HT/VHT due to WEP/TKIP use
[  116.669933] wlan0: associate with e0:91:f5:ac:ac:c4 (try 1/3)
[  116.672656] wlan0: RX AssocResp from e0:91:f5:ac:ac:c4 (capab=0x411 status=0 aid=7)
[  116.673521] wlan0: associated
[  116.673569] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): wlan0: link becomes ready


Not sure if anyone can shed some light....
From GIThub

Code:

File: iwlwifi-3160-7.ucode
 Version: 22.1.7.0
 <at>  <at>  -828,7 +828,7  <at>  <at>  File: iwlwifi-3160-9.ucode
 Version: 25.228.9.0

 File: iwlwifi-3160-10.ucode
-Version: 23.10.10.0
+Version: 23.11.10.0


I have no LED indicator to see if the WIFI module is powered down or up while trying to download firmware, maybe it is a setting in ACPI ?
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PostPosted: Fri 02 Jan 2015, 14:05    Post subject: GPT drive  

Hi PeeBee,

I am not sure what TedDog meant with GPT drive not showing, but PCmanFM shows 7 partitions on the Harddrive, and 2 partitions on the USB stick (sdb1 is called CDROM, and there is no CDROM drive in this machine, so that must be teh GPT partition on the USB drive). I am running from USB stick, I have no intention to install on harddisk.

I did not try to copy the firmware from Ubuntu to LxPup. Not even sure if that works. I will try to find out if I can find it and copy it. Is this version of LxPup based on Ubuntu (debian) or is it Slackware ? Ubuntu uses systemd. Not sure if it is that simple....

I guess this is way beyond my skills, but maybe I succeed.
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PostPosted: Fri 02 Jan 2015, 14:33    Post subject: Re: GPT drive  

Volhout wrote:
Hi PeeBee,

I am not sure what TedDog meant with GPT drive not showing, but PCmanFM shows 7 partitions on the Harddrive, and 2 partitions on the USB stick (sdb1 is called CDROM, and there is no CDROM drive in this machine, so that must be teh GPT partition on the USB drive). I am running from USB stick, I have no intention to install on harddisk.

I did not try to copy the firmware from Ubuntu to LxPup. Not even sure if that works. I will try to find out if I can find it and copy it. Is this version of LxPup based on Ubuntu (debian) or is it Slackware ? Ubuntu uses systemd. Not sure if it is that simple....


sda4 seems to be not showing....??

From post #1:
Quote:
THIS IS EXPERIMENTAL & BASED ON ALPHA SLACKO64 SO USE WITH CAUTION
LxPup64 - a 64bit version of Puppy with the LXDE desktop
a derivative of Slacko64 Alpha (Slacko64-5.9.1) produced by 01micko


Firmware, being code that is loaded onto the device, should be agnostic of what type of system is loading it - I think!

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PostPosted: Fri 02 Jan 2015, 15:21    Post subject: Re: GPT drive  

Volhout wrote:
I did not try to copy the firmware from Ubuntu to LxPup. Not even sure if that works.
It might work.
I have successfully used firmware copied from this debian source, http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-nonfree_0.43.tar.gz, into Tahrpup 6.0.1, when my "dmesg" indicated missing firmware.
The above debian source contains an "iwlwifi-3160-9.ucode-23.214.9.0".
Or you could use a file from http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-iwlwifi_0.43_all.deb.

Or you can clone the Linux firmware with git:
Code:
# git init
# git clone https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/firmware/linux-firmware
to get current firmware files.
This one contains an "iwlwifi-3160-10.ucode" file.

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PostPosted: Sat 03 Jan 2015, 09:02    Post subject: iwlwifi  

gyro and PeeBee,

Got it working. From the link gyro provided, I extracted only "iwlwifi-3160-8.ucode-22.2.8.4.0" and renamed it into "iwlwifi-3160-8.ucode" and put it into /lib/firmware.

Next reboot, wifi connected, and I am now posting from it...

TedDog is right about the GPT drive, At shutdown I could not create a save file/folder on the GPT drive (in m case called CDROM). There is only the option to put the save file o the FAT partition. I had to use a second USB stick for the save file to hold the firmware for the WIFI.

Regards,

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PostPosted: Sat 03 Jan 2015, 11:26    Post subject:  

would not worry about that unknown blob using a partion of a few hundred M just before Win8-os nothing in linux understand what its its or for, I deleted it once when playing around with win8 it did not effect the use of win8. When I copied my win8 into a standard MBR I left it off and only the drive mirroring clouddrive did not work ( ok by me I hate the problems cloud caused for Apple devices)
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PostPosted: Sat 03 Jan 2015, 12:42    Post subject: Mediaplayer not working  

Dear PeeBee,

Attached a usb harddrive with movies on it (avi and mkv). The mediaplayer won't play any of them. Duration is indicated as 0.

Anyone seen this before ?
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PostPosted: Sat 03 Jan 2015, 15:32    Post subject:  

corrupt on copy or device too slow for playback. Saw that once and it was just too slow a device for real time playback. Crying or Very sad

I have seen a bunch of corrupt LARGER files with usb flash if copied using FatDog64beta1&2 reported it on that other thread a few others as well. Not so with FatDog64-631 Idea
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PostPosted: Sat 03 Jan 2015, 16:31    Post subject: Re: Mediaplayer not working  

Volhout wrote:
Dear PeeBee,
Attached a usb harddrive with movies on it (avi and mkv). The mediaplayer won't play any of them. Duration is indicated as 0.
Anyone seen this before ?


Hi Volhout

Just tried same and you are correct.

Mplayer is broken - it came from the Porteus LXDE module and is incompatible with Puppy Slacko 64.

Fix is to re-install Mplayer - see next post

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PostPosted: Sun 04 Jan 2015, 06:57    Post subject: Re: Mediaplayer not working  

Volhout wrote:
Dear PeeBee,
Attached a usb harddrive with movies on it (avi and mkv). The mediaplayer won't play any of them. Duration is indicated as 0.
Anyone seen this before ?


Re-install Mplayer:

http://ftp.nluug.nl/ftp/pub/os/Linux/distr/puppylinux/pet_packages-slacko6414.1/MPlayer-2013-08-30-x86_64.pet

.02-hybrid iso uploaded - see post #1

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PostPosted: Mon 05 Jan 2015, 08:11    Post subject: Volhout
Subject description: Vosje
 

Hi PeeBee,

Some observations:

0/ The hybrid iso boot on MBR PC's and on UEFI PC's, and on secure UEFI PC's.

1/
The new V2 hybrid iso does not contain my WIFI driver. Could you add it to the iso for version 3 ?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_gS-sA1xlktdlNfSVBjQkdTMGc/view?usp=sharing

Should be in /lib/firmware ....
It's not a big deal for me to add it myself, but in combination with 2/ it is clumbersome...

2/
The new hybrid iso still does not have the option to create a save file in the GPT partition. Is this an adaption to the shutdown script ? The GPT partition is visible in PCmanFM as sdb1, the VFAT partition is sdb2. In the shutdown I can only create a save file on sdb2, not sdb1.
Since sdb2 is really small (only few Mb or so) this is not really workable.
Alternative is to update the hybrid iso with a 3rd partition (also VFAT or EXTx) that can hold the save file.

3/ Tried above option 2/ to create a 3rd partition on the USB stick, and GPARTED complains about the stick topology. The GPT partition is not in the right locations (end of the stick). So apparently there is a mismatch between UEFI as in my laptop and Gparted. Gparted cannot fix it (although it suggests to do it), probably because it is mounted....

Do not really know how to proceed....
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