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Gooplusplus


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PostPosted: Mon 29 Jun 2015, 18:22    Post subject: LxPup64 is not YUMI USB multiboot friendly  

Unlike most Puppy-based distros and most Ubuntu-based distros, LxPup64 is unfortunately not YUMI USB Multiboot friendly. Basically, when booted from YUMI USB, an error is shown stating that puppy_lxpup64_15.05.sfs cannot be found.

I suspect that this sfs file path has been hard-coded somewhere as a semi-fixed path rather than a fully relative one since almost all other Puppy-based distros never had that problem. The one similar exception is the latest Simplicity Netbook 15.4 distro. It fails for the same reason whereas Simplicity Netbook 15.1 worked just fine.

From time to time I post USB Linux Collection torrents. They mostly focus on lightweight distros. I will be posting two new collections (32bit and 64bit) in a week or so. The last one can be found here:

http://www.gooplusplus.com/multiboot-2015-lite-speed/ --- https://kat.cr/usb-multiboot-2015-lite-speed-8gb-linux-hirens-android-xbmc-gooplusplus-t10518268.html

I had planned to add LxPup64 to the forthcoming 64-bit YUMI-based USB collection. Unfortunately, after trying a few tricks to get LxPup64 to work with YUMI despite initial problems, I just could not get it to work.


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PostPosted: Tue 30 Jun 2015, 02:17    Post subject: Re: LxPup64 is not YUMI USB multiboot friendly  

Gooplusplus wrote:
LxPup64 is unfortunately not YUMI USB Multiboot friendly.

Does this also apply to Fatdog64 and Lighthouse64? LxPup64 iso is a hybrid boot based on the Fatdog64 model.

Gooplusplus wrote:
The one similar exception is the latest Simplicity Netbook 15.4 distro.

Probably because it is just a LxPup64 derivative.....in 64bit version

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PostPosted: Tue 30 Jun 2015, 10:42    Post subject: Re: LxPup64 is not YUMI USB multiboot friendly  

peebee wrote:

Does this also apply to Fatdog64 and Lighthouse64?

Fatdog64 7.01 booted fine even with default isolinux.cfg and grub.cfg

Lighhouse64 6.02 failed with the same error.

I took another look at Simplicity and found that the 32 bit (based on LX Pup Tahr) worked but the 64 bit version (based on LxPup64) failed.

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PostPosted: Tue 30 Jun 2015, 17:49    Post subject:  

Might have something to do with the fact that there is still no standardization among 64bit efi machines. And because the firmware might say it can enable legacy boot, it doesn't mean it actually does. And even if the hybrid function on fatdog, lxpup64 and lighthouse is (and they are!) correct and proper, it can be a real pain in the but to set up the box to accept 'foreign' certificates in the first place.
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PostPosted: Tue 30 Jun 2015, 18:15    Post subject:  

I thought LxPUP64 was more of a Slacko64 derivative than FD which in turns brings the user friendliness that is seen. Same as found in @LightHouse64.

In any event, on my PCs, thus far, I have not run into any issues in using them on both BIOS and UEFI PCs. But, I do run Live DVDs (not that this add/subtracts from the problem).

Question
Which PC manufacturer is showing UEFI/EFI problems?

Maybe someone might offer ideas to address the problem.

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PostPosted: Tue 30 Jun 2015, 19:18    Post subject:  

Dry Falls wrote:
Might have something to do with the fact that there is still no standardization among 64bit efi machines.

In my case, I have been testing on a non-efi PC (Lenovo Y470 0855-2HU notebook).

I see that Simplicity has released 15.7 Beta but won't release the 64 bit Desktop version due to problems that need to be fixed. Is this related?

http://simplicitylinux.org/2015/06/simplicity-linux-15-7-beta-is-now-available/

UPDATE: No, not related other than being based on LxPup64.

Simplicity 15.7 final Desktop and Netbook 64-bit both fail
Simplicity 15.7 final Desktop and Netbook 32-bit both pass
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PostPosted: Sat 15 Aug 2015, 20:59    Post subject: Gmail Phone  

LxPup64-15.05.01

Using Chromium browser:
Version 43.0.2357 Puppy Linux 64 (64-bit)

Gmail Phone 'Now Connects' and works through your Gmail (US only I believe) WITHOUT INSTALLING ANY PLUG-INS (it appears Chromium now includes the needed plug-in... anyway it works for me!)

(1) However... you have to setup 'Retrovol' (it is NOT configured OOTB in LxPup64) by right/clicking the speaker in the 'Tray' (select: Configure Window) then select 'Hardware' put most of the items in the Right/Hand Window over in the Left/Hand Window... Select the 'APPLY' at the bottom then exit.

(2) Right/Click the Speaker icon in the Tray again... select 'Full Window'... make sure all the appropriate boxes are 'checked' and the blue-bars are set to where you want them (volume etc)

Go into Gmail and make a call!!! (Mic or Speaker-mic required)

>>>---Indian------>

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PostPosted: Tue 01 Sep 2015, 20:01    Post subject:  

these work for LxPup64-15.05.01:

sox-14.4.1-x86_64-1.txz
wavpack-4.60.1-x86_64-1.txz from slackware in ppm
retrovol_tray-jl64.pet
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pet

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Filename  retrovol_tray-jl64.pet 
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PostPosted: Tue 01 Sep 2015, 20:17    Post subject:  

also symlink /usr/local/firewallstate/firewallstate to /root/Startup and cp rc.firewall to /etc/init.d.

Added this line to /root/Startup/1-lxde-startup.sh:

Code:
swapon /dev/sda*
replace sda* with your swap drive/partition. A line could be added to the init file which finds and loads the swap prior to xwin, but this does the job in the mean time.

df
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PostPosted: Wed 02 Sep 2015, 02:05    Post subject:  

Dry Falls wrote:
these work for LxPup64-15.05.01:

Hi df

What problem does retrovol_tray-jl64.pet solve?

Thanks

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PostPosted: Wed 02 Sep 2015, 12:29    Post subject:  

peebee wrote:
What problem does retrovol_tray-jl64.pet solve?


Actually, there is no problem until you go tinkering and break it. Specifically, I installed FbBox-2.0_64Bit for some familiar apps, some of which are redundant, but LXPup64 generally runs better with it than even Slacko64. Unfortunately, its retrovol sets up a version conflict which I only just discovered this morning. It's wmchanger works under jwm but not lxde. Must log out to prompt to change wm from lxde to any other. My kde/xfce addon works almost as well ootb under lxpup as under lighthouse.

It's all in the spirit of fun with experimentation, but I'm finding lxpup64 very versatile. I think it's rapidly becoming my new drug, er, dog of choice.

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PostPosted: Mon 07 Sep 2015, 11:44    Post subject: Experimental - LxPupTahr64-15.09  

EXPERIMENTAL - use with care

A version of LxPup64 based on TahrPup64-6.0.3.8 is available from later posts.

Stemsee's 4.1.6 kernel is used.
The iso is a normal bios iso not a hybrid uefi.

Please check the TahrPup64 thread from this post to see if any problems have already been reported.

Known LxPup specific problems are:
- the trash can is not working - see below

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PostPosted: Mon 07 Sep 2015, 15:20    Post subject:  

Cool! this; A version of LxPup64 based on TahrPup64-6.0.3.5 is available to download: just downloaded, manual frugal install, works ootb, T61 Thinkpad. Still playing, I'm easily pleased! Many thanks!
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PostPosted: Sun 13 Sep 2015, 10:08    Post subject:  

LxPupTahr64-15.09.02 Fixed the disappearing menu problem.

The lack of Trash is because gvfs is not starting.

Error message from /usr/libexec/gvfsd is:
Quote:
Failed to connect to the D-BUS daemon: Could not connect: No such file or directory (g-io-error-quark, 1)

I can't work out how to fix at the moment I'm afraid....

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PostPosted: Tue 22 Sep 2015, 06:04    Post subject: LxPupTahr64-15.09.03.iso  

LxPupTahr-15.09.3 was based on tahrpup64-6.0.3.7 - no longer available
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