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Banksy 3 - aka "The Personator"
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keniv

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PostPosted: Fri 14 Apr 2017, 13:40    Post subject:  

@greengeek
I've only started using this today. I'm using version banksy3generic_01.iso. I have a frugal installation on my hdd.I am posting from it now. I have got it working OK except I cannot find the way of retaining an installed .pet. I only installed pwidgets. This works perfectly but is not carried over. I also tried /root/3-b3isolator script which produced an iso but the personalised sfs was only 12MB. I'm sure I'm missing something but I don't know what. Can you point me in the right direction?

Regards,

Ken.
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greengeek


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PostPosted: Fri 14 Apr 2017, 15:06    Post subject:  

keniv wrote:
I also tried /root/3-b3isolator script which produced an iso but the personalised sfs was only 12MB. I'm sure I'm missing something but I don't know what.
Hi Ken, it is perfectly normal for the personalised sfs to be small when you are using the "01" version of banksy3. This is because it deliberately limits the amount of data that it allows you to save.

The way it works is that banksy relies on the unchanging base sfs for most of it's functionality and the personal sfs is just the "icing on top" containing a very few personalisations.

Your installation will then end up with two sfs files - the main sfs file (around 200MB), and then the personalised one (much smaller).
However - you are using the first version of banksy3 and it behaves in a specific way that does not allow you to add the pet you want to add.

Read on...:

Quote:
I'm using version banksy3generic_01.iso. I have a frugal installation on my hdd.I am posting from it now. I have got it working OK except I cannot find the way of retaining an installed .pet.
You have run into the same limitation that Sylvander noted and he requested an improvement to banksy to allow him to add more than the originally "permitted" personalisations. Sylvanders tests led to an experimental version which will allow you to do exactly what you are aiming for. This version is available via this post here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=899307#899307

Since the release of that version I have been using it as my daily driver and improving/expanding it through multiple versions and have just released my "b3Libre" variant. It is a biggie at 459MB but contains all the stuff I need every day. if you are interested in that version see this post:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=951277#951277

Please note: the more data you add into the personal sfs (either manually or by installing pets) the bigger it gets (obviously) and the more memory it needs for the "personator" and "impersonator" processes. A swap partition is normally required during that process.

If you try one of the newer banksy's please treat it as totally separate from your earlier trials. Don't mix the old with the new as things will probably get confusing.

Just one more thing to note: - when you use the newer versions with the "impersonator" script which clones your current system, just be aware that it does not know the difference between what you want and what you don't want. It can clone any baddies as well as the goodies. Make sure you only add exactly what you want. If you visit a bad website prior to running the impersonator then that will be shown in your history and cache. Also, if you made a document containing your passwords or other personal information the impersonator will scoop them up into the new personal sfs. (Thats what makes version banksy3generic_01 safer for first time users...)

Thanks for trying banksy3 !
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keniv

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PostPosted: Fri 14 Apr 2017, 15:36    Post subject:  

Hi greengeek,
Thanks for the reply and the explanation I'll try the first version in your post and try with pwidgets again. I don't really need pwidgets but was just experimenting.
I do like your idea. I was thinking of putting it onto a usb drive and make a key ring computer. I've done this before but always worried about losing it. Yours would give more a bit security without the need for encryption.
Thanks again for the help.

Ken.
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keniv

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PostPosted: Sat 15 Apr 2017, 07:43    Post subject:  

@greengeek,
I've now have a frugal instal of b3impgeneric_RC5. I decided not to try and carry over the pwidgets .pet as based on your instructions my old laptop does not have a good enough spec (800Hz 320MB) and as I said I don't need the pet. However I tried to use the virtual keyboard with abiword and it does not work. Abiword does work with the laptop keyboard. I've not used the virtual keyboard with any pup before so again I might be missing something. I seem to lose the focus when I move the cursor. Tried pressing the focus key but this does not appear to make a difference. Brought up the manual in the main menu but did not get far. Also tried to use it with this post but cannot get it to work here either. Again I'd appreciate it if you could point me in the right direction with this.

Regards,

Ken.

Edit; Have got the virtual key board to work.
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PostPosted: Sat 15 Apr 2017, 15:48    Post subject:  

Great - glad you got it to work. You must click "focus" on the keyboard then click once inside the text area of Abiword.

I don't know how banksy will go on a machine with that low spec. Hope it performs well enough for you to get a feel for how it works. Good Luck !
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keniv

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PostPosted: Sun 16 Apr 2017, 09:22    Post subject:  

Hi greengeek,
Banksy works quite well on this machine. Even the version of FF is not too bad. Most modern browsers are too heavy. I quite like QtWeb but it also has it's problems and is no longer supported. I have a number of pups I like and all work well enough on this machine. I use lucid 5287s2 as my main pup but also like Wary551, Racy55 and 412 lite (this runs in ram).
I'm still getting used to banksy. I'm on my 6th personal sfs. I do have another question. I dragged /usr/bin/abiword to the desktop and set the icon. Made a new personal sfs. On reboot abiword was still on desktop but not the icon. Put the icon in opt/b3user linked it to abiword from there and made a new personal sfs and rebooted. Again no abiword icon on desktop but the icon was carried over in /opt/b3user. So looks like the link did not get carried over. I am assuming this is what I should expect but I thought I'd just check that this is correct.

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Ken.
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PostPosted: Sun 16 Apr 2017, 12:21    Post subject:  

keniv wrote:
On reboot abiword was still on desktop but not the icon
Hi Keniv,

thanks for reporting this. Would you be able to perform a test please? Could you repeat the process - setting up Abiword (and the icon) on the desktop - then before creating a new personal sfs just post the output of the following two files please:

/root/.config/rox.sourceforge.net/ROX-Filer/globicons

/root/Choices/ROX-Filer/globicons

(no need to create the new sfs, I just need to check the variance between the two files)

cheers!
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keniv

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PostPosted: Sun 16 Apr 2017, 14:56    Post subject:  

Hi greengeek,
I linked the abiword icon in /opt/b3user to abiword on the desktop as before. Here is the output from the two files. I used the word48.png icon. I've attached an image of a small part of the desktop showing this. Hope this helps.

Ken.

/root/.config/rox.sourceforge.net/ROX-Filer/globicons

Code:
<?xml version="1.0"?>
<special-files>
  <rule match="/usr/local/kde/bin/kword">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/word48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/sbin/quicksetup">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/configuration48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/sbin/savesession-dvd">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/save48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/bin/pdrive">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/drive48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/bin/b3personator">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/personator48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/kde/bin/konqueror">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/www48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/bin/defaultchat">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/chat48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/bin/mrxvt">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/console48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/bin/killdown">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/killdownred48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/kde/bin/kpresenter">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/present48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/kde/bin/konsole">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/console48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/bin/gnumeric">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/spread48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/bin/b3setsingleclick">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/setsingleclick48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/kde/bin/kmail">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/email48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/bin/mozstart">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/www48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/bin/defaultdraw">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/draw48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/bin/abiword">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/word48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/bin/defaultcontact">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/contact48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/bin/abiword">
    <icon>/opt/b3user/word48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/sbin/dotpup">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/pet48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/kde/bin/kolourpaint">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/paint48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/kde/bin/kaffeine">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/multimedia48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/sbin/pmount">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/drive48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/bin/tea">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/edit48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/sbin/wizardwizard">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/configuration48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/bin/xcalc">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/spread48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/bin/b3burngeneric">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/burngeneric48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/bin/defaultmediaplayer">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/multimedia48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/bin/rox">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/home48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/kde/bin/kate">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/edit48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/bin/mtpaint">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/paint48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/bin/b3setdoubleclick">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/setdoubleclick48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/bin/defaultpaint">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/paint48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/sbin/save2flash">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/save48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/sbin/puppyhelp">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/help48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/bin/sylpheed">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/sylpheed48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/sbin/petget">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/pet48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/bin/defaulttexteditor">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/edit48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/bin/normaldown">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/killdowngreen48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/bin/b3HowToCustomise">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/howto48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/bin/rxvt">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/console48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/bin/urxvt">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/console48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/bin/mozmail">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/email48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/bin/quickdown">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/killdownorange48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/bin/defaultcalendar">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/date48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/kde/bin/kspread">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/spread48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/bin/links">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/www48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/bin/b3HowToCustomiseimp">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/howto48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/bin/defaultbrowser">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/www48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/bin/defaultspreadsheet">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/spread48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/bin/defaultemail">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/email48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/bin/defaulthtmleditor">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/webedit48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/bin/beaver">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/edit48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/sbin/mut">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/drive48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/bin/opera">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/www48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/bin/b3impersonator">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/impersonator48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/bin/defaultconnect">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/connect48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/bin/defaultwordprocessor">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/word48.png</icon>
  </rule>
</special-files>


/root/Choices/ROX-Filer/globicons

Code:
<?xml version="1.0"?>
<special-files>
  <rule match="/usr/local/kde/bin/kaffeine">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/multimedia48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/bin/mozmail">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/email48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/kde/bin/konqueror">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/www48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/bin/tea">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/edit48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/bin/gnumeric">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/spread48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/bin/xcalc">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/spread48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/bin/b3personator">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/personator48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/bin/b3impersonator">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/impersonator48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/bin/b3burngeneric">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/burngeneric48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/bin/b3HowToCustomise">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/howto48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/bin/b3HowToCustomiseimp">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/howto48.png</icon>
  </rule>
   <rule match="/usr/bin/b3setsingleclick">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/setsingleclick48.png</icon>
  </rule>
   <rule match="/usr/bin/b3setdoubleclick">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/setdoubleclick48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/bin/killdown">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/killdownred48.png</icon>
  </rule>
    <rule match="/usr/bin/quickdown">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/killdownorange48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/bin/normaldown">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/killdowngreen48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/bin/defaultcalendar">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/date48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/bin/defaultbrowser">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/www48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/bin/rox">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/home48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/bin/rxvt">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/console48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/bin/urxvt">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/console48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/bin/mrxvt">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/console48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/sbin/wizardwizard">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/configuration48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/sbin/quicksetup">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/configuration48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/bin/defaultpaint">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/paint48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/kde/bin/kword">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/word48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/bin/mtpaint">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/paint48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/sbin/petget">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/pet48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/sbin/savesession-dvd">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/save48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/sbin/save2flash">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/save48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/bin/defaulttexteditor">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/edit48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/kde/bin/kpresenter">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/present48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/kde/bin/kolourpaint">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/paint48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/kde/bin/konsole">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/console48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/bin/defaultmediaplayer">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/multimedia48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/bin/beaver">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/edit48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/kde/bin/kate">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/edit48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/bin/opera">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/www48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/kde/bin/kmail">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/email48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/bin/defaultemail">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/email48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/bin/links">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/www48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/bin/defaultconnect">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/connect48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/sbin/puppyhelp">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/help48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/kde/bin/kspread">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/spread48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/sbin/dotpup">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/pet48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/bin/defaultspreadsheet">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/spread48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/sbin/mut">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/drive48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/sbin/pmount">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/drive48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/bin/pdrive">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/drive48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/bin/sylpheed">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/sylpheed48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/bin/mozstart">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/www48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/bin/defaulthtmleditor">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/webedit48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/bin/defaultwordprocessor">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/word48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/bin/defaultcontact">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/contact48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/bin/abiword">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/word48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/bin/defaultdraw">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/draw48.png</icon>
  </rule>
  <rule match="/usr/local/bin/defaultchat">
    <icon>/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/chat48.png</icon>
  </rule>
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PostPosted: Sun 16 Apr 2017, 16:13    Post subject:  

I have just tried what you described and it works fine for me. Could you detail exactly the process you used to set the icon originally? (ie: before you tried linking from /opt - just pick the icon from /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48).

Also - which method did you use to kick off the building of the sfs? Did you use the "impersonator" icon on the desktop? (please try that way if not already done)
cheers.
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PostPosted: Mon 17 Apr 2017, 14:45    Post subject:  

greengeek wrote:
Could you detail exactly the process you used to set the icon.

I got the icon from /root/puppy-reference/midi-icons. These are sys linked to /usr/share/midi-icons. These are further sys linked.
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Also - which method did you use to kick off the building of the sfs?

I used the three step process that starts with distill and ends making a small iso. I used the personal sfs from this.
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Did you use the "impersonator" icon on the desktop? (please try that way if not already done)

I can't use this at the moment. This old machine has a cd r/w but only dvd read. I don't use writeable cds much and don't have any. I'll get some, try the "impersonator" method and report back.

Regards,

Ken.
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PostPosted: Mon 17 Apr 2017, 15:12    Post subject:  

keniv wrote:
I used the three step process that starts with distill and ends making a small iso. I used the personal sfs from this.
Hi Keniv - that is where the problem lies - the "distillor" in that directory is only applicable to the "personator" function that grabs a small number of personalisations. It is not applicable to the "impersonator" function that grabs all of your personalisations and additions.

Sorry that the terminology is a little confusing - I hope it will become clearer soon.

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I can't use this {the impersonator icon} at the moment. This old machine has a cd r/w but only dvd read. I don't use writeable cds much and don't have any.

OK - you don't actually need to put a CD into the drive (despite the message that says you must...). If you run the impersonator function without a disk in the drive it will still go ahead with producing a new iso in the /tmp directory and you can grab the new personal sfs from that iso.

I have been trialling a new impersonator script which also includes a "make sfs only" function for use in frugal installs. This is included in version RC6 which I will release shortly. In the meantime I recommend using the impersonator icon (with no CD in drive) - let it do its stuff (it will need a swap partition to have enough ram space) and after you see the new iso in /tmp just extract the personal sfs from that. (not the main sfs as that will be exactly the same as you already have).

As an alternative - you could use the new "b3burnimp" script attached below (remove fake .gz suffix). Before running the impersonator script put this new burn script into /opt/b3personator/ (overwrite the old version) then you can use the impersonator icon on the desktop and it will let you choose "sfs" rather than a disk burn.
(EDIT : This method requires much less ram than the CD burn method which builds a whole iso).
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PostPosted: Mon 17 Apr 2017, 16:59    Post subject:  

Hi greengeek

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As an alternative - you could use the new "b3burnimp" script attached below (remove fake .gz suffix). Before running the impersonator script put this new burn script into /opt/b3personator/ (overwrite the old version) then you can use the impersonator icon on the desktop and it will let you choose "sfs" rather than a disk burn.
(EDIT : This method requires much less ram than the CD burn method which builds a whole iso).


I used the method above and this time it worked. It did not seem to hammer the limited memory on this machine but I guess there was not much to collect up. I'm very pleased with this. I think I'll try the pwidgets pet and see how that goes. Thanks for doing the work on "b3burnimp" that let me get this working. This method does seem better for machines with poor specs like mine. I've attached an image of a section of the desktop showing the icons carried over.

Regards,

Ken.
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PostPosted: Tue 18 Apr 2017, 01:42    Post subject:  

Great - thanks for the feedback. Glad it's working.
cheers!

ps: thats a much nicer icon for Abiword than the previous word one I reckon. Smile
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PostPosted: Tue 18 Apr 2017, 05:32    Post subject:  

Hi greengeek,
I'll be away from it for a few days but I'll try the pet addition and report back. I'm also going to try a version on a flash drive and I'll get some cds and put a version on one of these.

Thanks again,

Ken.
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