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Re: a few issues

#796 Post by version2013 »

gyro wrote:
version2013 wrote:SFS-Load version numbers differ.
Yes, I noticed that. That's why I asked the other questions, to try to sort out where the old version of sfs_load could be comming from.

Have you tried running the "sfs_load" contained in your "puppy_tahr64_6.0.6.sfs" directly?
You can click on "puppy_tahr64_6.0.6.sfs" and then select "View contents" to access the files inside it. Then navigate to "usr/sbin" and click on "sfs_load" to run it.

gyro
I checked again, this time with a definite fresh frugal install, and from the sfs file you mentioned.
The "sfs_load" is version 3.

I failed to remember that I tried to get 'puppy_tahr64_6.0.6' to work correctly with my laptop keyboard. I also failed to document exactly what I installed, apart from a version of 'xinput' from the PPM [1].
Unsure how the 'sfs_load' file was overwritten with an older version.

Sorry for the mistake.

Although I still am not sure why my keyboard has issues with 6.0.6.

[1] Puppy Package Manager

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SOLVED My USB 3 Problems with tahrpup64.

#798 Post by James186282 »

Around Christmas I posted a problem with USB 3 on a PCI VIA card. I tried reading through all the complaints on other systems OSs and pretty much drove myself crazy for a while and almost gave up.

Anyway for the first time in a long time score one for the guy who is always asking the dumb ass questions and not hunkering down and figuring out things himself.

So my machine is an AMD Desktop box that started as a Dimension E521 but has been modified with the fastest available AMD CPU and has a huge power supply and a relic *NVIDIA card a Wifi Card and the VIA usb 3 card. * so I can have a second monitor (In portrait mode) The portrait monitor is a typical DELL landscape type that I modified to sit sideways. And for editing text its really nice. arandr script in startup flips it. It probably sounds like junk because thats how I got it. Someone was throwing all of this except the VIA 3 USB card into the trash.

The solution after trying a lot of things was to change one line of my menu.lst file that I use to boot the machine. All I did was add acpi=strict and all the dmesg errors about xhci_hcd not accepting addresses and command rings failing went away and the damn thing blazes away at USB3 speeds at long last on my external hard disc drive. Mentally picture a guy doing the happy dance.

kernel /vmlinuz psubdir=/ pfix=fsck acpi=strict pkeys=us vga=ask

I have created an almost crazy large (20 to 30K) heavy on the comments menu.lst file that might be of value because... when everything else failed I looked at the known acpi options in my comments and came up with that one to try. If anyone is curious or wants to see what OCD perfection issues looks like ;-) just ask and I'll paste it in a message or if someone has some space to store it?
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Re: SOLVED My USB 3 Problems with tahrpup64.

#799 Post by James186282 »

James186282 wrote:Around Christmas I posted a problem with USB 3 on a PCI VIA card. I tried reading through all the complaints on other systems OSs and pretty much drove myself crazy for a while and almost gave up.

Anyway for the first time in a long time score one for the guy who is always asking the dumb ass questions and not hunkering down and figuring out things himself.

So my machine is an AMD Desktop box that started as a Dimension E521 but has been modified with the fastest available AMD CPU and has a huge power supply and a relic *NVIDIA card a Wifi Card and the VIA usb 3 card. * so I can have a second monitor (In portrait mode) The portrait monitor is a typical DELL landscape type that I modified to sit sideways. And for editing text its really nice. arandr script in startup flips it. It probably sounds like junk because thats how I got it. Someone was throwing all of this except the VIA 3 USB card into the trash.

The solution after trying a lot of things was to change one line of my menu.lst file that I use to boot the machine. All I did was add acpi=strict and all the dmesg errors about xhci_hcd not accepting addresses and command rings failing went away and the damn thing blazes away at USB3 speeds at long last on my external hard disc drive. Mentally picture a guy doing the happy dance.

kernel /vmlinuz psubdir=/ pfix=fsck acpi=strict pkeys=us vga=ask

I have created an almost crazy large (20 to 30K) heavy on the comments menu.lst file that might be of value because... when everything else failed I looked at the known acpi options in my comments and came up with that one to try. If anyone is curious or wants to see what OCD perfection issues looks like ;-) just ask and I'll paste it in a message or if someone has some space to store it?
O O P s
It only made it work once in a blue moon. Still looking for a solution to this VL80x PCI card not working. BTW I'm using an AMD machine. The initial error reports timeout while waiting for setup address command. I've searched the web and see the problem but mostly with no responses. Anyway I will continue on. Maybe this is a good time for me to finish work on my Midlife Crisis-mobile Ha Ha
Science is what we understand well enough to explain to a computer.
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#800 Post by bigpup »

installing Chrome browser via quickpet will corrupt Tahrpup64.
See this topic for info:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=110740
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#801 Post by jangelelcangry »

First off, late congrats for this distro. I really like it. :-)
Does anyone here is aware of the Pulseaudio only requirement/bug that leaves most sites muted?
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1345661
I can browse sites but if there's sound, it's almost assured that you can't hear it because it will appear a message at the top of the screen saying that firefox requires pulseaudio.
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#802 Post by watchdog »

OscarTalks has provided an apulse pet:

http://smokey01.com/OscarTalks/apulse-0.1.10-x86_64.pet

Try to install it in tahr64 and report here. There is a thread about firefox and pulseaudio, too.

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#803 Post by jangelelcangry »

watchdog wrote:OscarTalks has provided an apulse pet:

http://smokey01.com/OscarTalks/apulse-0.1.10-x86_64.pet

Try to install it in tahr64 and report here. There is a thread about firefox and pulseaudio, too.
Thanks watchdog. It works now. I'll report later if there's anything breaking something.
Now we're a step closer to penguin domination. :D

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Use with Skype.

#804 Post by tony »

Hi,

I installed the apulse pet and got better loudspeaker volume on Skype. But now my microphone is not detected.

A bit of Deja Vu from Microsoft?

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#805 Post by artsown »

Has anyone managed to get waterfox working on tahrpup64? If so,
please describe what you had to do.

Art

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#806 Post by OscarTalks »

Hello Art,

Latest Waterfox is 54.0.0.1 and unfortunately it does not run in Tahr64 (or Slacko64 6.3.0) because the libstdc++ version is too old. You might need to use a later Puppy or run an older Waterfox.
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#807 Post by artsown »

Thanks Oscar. I was just curious, since waterfox works fine on both
xenialpup64 7.0.8.5 and slackopup64 6.9.9.9

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#808 Post by jangelelcangry »

here are my issues so far:
minor
*Can't open .magnet files without workarounds.
*Can't open directories in transmission.
*Can't open some files from Firefox/Palemoon
*Online play for Red Eclipse is impossible because it can't auto update itself.
*Steam tray icon is buggy.

Severe issues
*System crashes or becomes unstable after using it for a few hours.
*Firefox and Palemoon are displaying garbage text or no text at all.
*In some cases/systems, Opening Firefox for the second time will crash the entire system (This happens in Debian too)
*VLC sound cuts ater a few milliseconds.
*Firefox videos stopped working after applying the pulse-audio fix a few days later.

Might update this list later
When these issues are not present, this is one of my favorite operating systems ever.

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#809 Post by bigpup »

Need to state how Tahrpup64 is installed.
On what device.
What format.
Firefox what version.

A lot of what you are having problems with is classic issues with:
bad install of Tahrpup.
Bad format (file system corrupted)
Save corruption.
Low memory.

I would try a fresh format of the partition.
Fresh new install of Tahrpup64.

How you did the install could be an issue.
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#810 Post by jangelelcangry »

@bigpup
*The installation is frugal saved in the folder
*the file system is EXT4.
*Cpu: Core i5 2500
*RAM: 4GB 1333 2x2
*GPU: XFX AMD Radeon HD 6970 2GB Reference design using the FGLRX driver.
*MB: Asrock H61M U3S3 connected to the SATA II (3Gbps) port.
*Pale Moon Version: 27.3.0 (64-bit)
*Mozilla Firefox Version: 54.0.1 (64-bit)
*The filesystem might be bad due to a improper shutdown or the HDD might be on it's way out.
*Low memory? I don't think so. I ran Tahr and slacko5.7-6.0 in a 1GB system and it behaves differently. Once I close Firefox on the 1GB system, it will run normally. the timed stability issue is when i close all the applications the system will become unresponsive, mount will be really slow and unresponsive for example. Maybe a bad HDD. I've saw system with 2 HDD's even if the host HDD is good if the other HDD is bad the system is gonna wait for the HDD to respond. Similarly like when you connect an external hdd to a computer.
I'll try first by deleting the Tahr64 save folder. If the problem persist after a week or more, I'll format the drive.

I don't mind the minor issues mentioned.

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#811 Post by bigpup »

Now that I do not have to guess at what you have for memory.
Low memory is not your issue, unless you got a memory stick going bad.

If you boot Puppy from something other than the hard drive.
Hard drive cannot be mounted to do this.
Run Gparted.
Right click on a unmounted partition.
Select check.

It will do a file system check and correct anything it finds wrong. Basically checking the format, which is the file system.

The recent versions of Firefox have been a little buggy with Puppy versions, they do require some much newer support files/programs that the Puppy version may not have.

With Firefox it seems to be a moving target what is needed to run Firefox. Just when you get everything setup, they change some dependency requirement.

That was one big reason to offer Tahrpup with PaleMoon browser. The developers of PaleMoon are not constantly trying to require the latest and greatest in support files/programs.
So far, all you do is update PaleMoon with the PaleMoon- updater and it just works.
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#812 Post by jangelelcangry »

@bigpup
Well, It didn't worked.
Time to nuke.
That was one big reason to offer Tahrpup with PaleMoon browser. The developers of PaleMoon are not constantly trying to require the latest and greatest in support files/programs.
No wonder Why Firefox feels considerably heavier release after release.[/img]
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PaleMoon updater and Spot

#813 Post by rufwoof »

Tahr 6.0.6 amd64 woofCE'd.

At initial setup I set palemoon to run under userid spot. Set up bookmarks and add in's, all running well and restricted to /root/spot ... later used the menu, internet, palemoon updater to upgrade PaleMoon from 27.1 to 27.4. After upgrading and starting palemoon - all the boomarks and add-ins ... all gone !!!

Ran lsof -i to try and see if palemoon was still running as spot ... and found lsof is the busybox limited version, so installed lsof from puppy package manager and lsof -i indicated that palemoon was running as root.

Running Menu, Setup, QuickSetup first run settings ... and palemoon ticked as running under spot. I had to untick that and set it as running under root and then re-tick it again and set it to run under spot ... for the change to be recorded. Now starting palemoon and running (in a root terminal) lsof -i indicates all is well (palemoon running under spot) and bookmarks/addins all back to how they were before.

Looks like the palemoon updater needs to have additional code to reset it to be running under spot after a palemoon upgrade (if it was previously set to run under spot)

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Tahrpup64 6..0.5 CE

#814 Post by Bird Dog »

Hi jangelelcangry where did you get that driver for your AMD Radeon (reference design) video card?
Frugal Xenialpup 64, Bionicpup 64 save folder on core2 quad Q6600 2 gigs ram, AMD 6 core 4 gigs ram. Frugal Xenialpup 32, Bionicpup 32 save folder on P4 3.0 ghz 1 gig ram, Dell P4 Celeron 2.4 ghz 1 gig ram

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Re: tahr64-6.0.6 running smoothly with kernel 4.9.15

#815 Post by rufwoof »

belham2 wrote:Just wanted to give you a heads up, over the past week I've been running Tahr64-6.0.6 (latest woof-CE build + Phil's latest updates/additions, i.e. latest JWM + radky's FbBox-4.0) with kernel 4.9.15, and it all runs smoothly as far as I can tell.
I woofce'd 6.0.6 selecting the 4.1.11 kernel that offered ... and the fonts were awful. Re-woofing (again using all the defaults) but selecting the 3.14.79 kernel and the fonts are beautiful. Whilst past EoL I'm sticking with the nicer look for the time being.

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