(OLD) (ARCHIVED) Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

[NeroVance]

Now that I think about it, Puppy 3x was supposed to be about Slackware Compatibility and 4x was due to being build using T2 for sources (at least that's from what I remember.)

Was Puppy 5x supposed to be basically Puppy using Woof?

[musher0]

Hello NeroVance and everyone.

Correct me if I'm wrong and forgive me if this sounds disrespectful, but I
always had the impression that BK was using the Puppy 5 series as a "lab
mouse" while refining his woof process.

Just my 2¢. BFN.

musher0

[Moose On The Loose]

[NeroVance]

[Bindee]

Apart from the remaster and a cross script to make PET files compatible what do these projects have to do with puppy apart from the name?

[gnz11]

what i can say from using puppy since 2008 is the 3 series to the 4 then to 5 was basicly the same. barry built it then variations would come out. he changed part of the build and filesystem with 431. thet 5 series was when woof became the framework to build puppy with. it was to use other distro binaries to build a pup with. and we got dpup/ spup/ upup. spup became slacko and upu became lucid and precise. the dpup is still about as dpup 487 and the new tries as debian dog. as barry stepped back.. on paper ;}, the woof build framework is what makes it an official pup. current releases are fairly official by the maintainer that is working them. we have a lot of options once again. one of the main things is to find what pup works for you and your hardware

[ttuuxxx]

Well I had more respect for puppy when it stood on its own 4 paws, Puppy 2&4 series, even 3 series was very close, Puppy 5 series just blew the size of distro by 30+MB, If you look at the libs you'll see the difference. Really I would be happy with a old kernel patched with ext4 and the latest sfs before they added it to the kernel, Also I would be more inclined to see Beep Media Player as the default audio player, I just don't like how Pmusic works, BMP works great and with the plugins it can play flac. Also would like to see an older version of gimp, The latest you have to export jpg images which is stupid. Also LXtask is another app I would pick. A basic gtk3 backend would also be a good idea so things like the latest Firefox would work. I would be willing to compile tons of apps if this was thing. Plus a better clipboard manager like clipit would be nice Really why have bleeding edge kernels and toss the size of distro down the drain.

[mcewanw]

[Sailor Enceladus]

[ttuuxxx]

[s243a]

I've glanced at the Woof CE I didn't find a common truk of scripts for linux. It instead to contain the tools for building puppylinux. My guess is that this is because puppylinux is assembled from a number of packages which are maintained separately. This probably makes development easier since different people can focus on the different components.

However, this makes it harder for people to understand how the system of a whole works if they aren't already immersed in the code. Or said another way it creates a steeper learning curve.

As a consequence, I simply copied some of the script files to a directory and uploaded them to githup:
https://github.com/s243a/test/tree/master/root/Subjects/sci/phy/tech/tech/comp/soft/op/POSIX/dist/light/medium/puppy/file/root

along with some simplemind mindmaps to help me understand what files there are and what they do. This isn't directly for development. It is more of a documentation project.

Currently, I copied the scripts from tahrup but I suspect that there is a lot of commonality between the main versions of puppylinux.

I only copied a few via drag and drop although a script could be written to automate this and assemble a larger assembly of scripts into github.

[NeroVance]

To be honest, I am thinking of getting back in the game, I do wonder if anyone has decided upon a Community Edition for Puppy 6?

I'll probably begin work myself on a Standard Puplet, I know a lot of people suggested something Ubuntu-based, but I might try something Arch Linux based since I've been using that on my new (ish) Thinkpad x130e, and it works rather well.

I'll probably begin with a clean VM on my desktop to build the first Woof images, then probably begin cutting the fat and looking at what would be good to possibly add as well, and what could use replacement. Because to be honest, I do kinda miss the days in which you had an integrated Internet Suite bundled in.

[Sailor Enceladus]

[p310don]

Why base it on anything else?

Why not base a Puppy on Puppy. Build our own pets, or better yet SFSes. I believe an SFS is easier to update (an issue lots of people have) programs.

[NeroVance]