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nvidia geforce mx 440 driver ?
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totolanio

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PostPosted: Sun 04 Jan 2015, 02:40    Post subject:  

how to install the nvidia driver for this GPU while Xorg version is 1.15 and the nvidia driver (93.xxx) is only working with Xorg 1.12 ?

Tahr pup or any puplet based on it will be using Xorg 1.15 while Puppy Precise 5.7.1 used Xorg 1.11.3
I didn't try to install the drivers on Puppy Precise though but I know the drivers can work on lubuntu with Xorg 1.11 (but not above or equal to 1.12)

If I could install it, I would be able to go from 1024 to 1280px in width !
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mikeb


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PostPosted: Sun 04 Jan 2015, 07:50    Post subject:  

not a definative answer but it MIGHT work as long as you have a matching kernel driver or build it. Xorg might tolerate the older driver...again MIGHT.

Otherwise you are stuck.... well you cannot use tahr with that card unless you use nouveau assuming that supports it...assuming tahr includes nouveau. Lots of assumptions.



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Griot


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PostPosted: Sun 04 Jan 2015, 12:13    Post subject:  

totolanio wrote:
how to install the nvidia driver for this GPU while Xorg version is 1.15 and the nvidia driver (93.xxx) is only working with Xorg 1.12 ?

Tahr pup or any puplet based on it will be using Xorg 1.15 while Puppy Precise 5.7.1 used Xorg 1.11.3
I didn't try to install the drivers on Puppy Precise though but I know the drivers can work on lubuntu with Xorg 1.11 (but not above or equal to 1.12)

If I could install it, I would be able to go from 1024 to 1280px in width !


Hi, totolanio. Here is a solution for installing nVidia
legacy96-driver-96.43.23-k3.9.11 for Precise 5.71
Please, read carefully and restart your PC after removing nouveau driver. Good luck. Wink
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totolanio

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PostPosted: Wed 07 Jan 2015, 09:07    Post subject:  

ok thank you it worked ! I just can't go past 1024*768 px I guess it's because of my screen monitor

Sum up :

Important if you have a black screen when using xorgwizard

Make a savefile.
Reboot.
Choose nv or vesa driver by using the xorgwizard, you press two arrow down and then right arrow and then Enter Enter Enter until you restart. Since you have alreay made a savefile it will automatically save your new driver and when you'll reboot you'll have to finish the settings in xorgwizard.

Now you remove the nouveau driver by typing :
rmmod nouveau

if you type it again it will say it doesn't exist (normal)

And then you can install the Catdude's pet.

Then you (eventually reboot and) can modify Nvidia settings in the start menu.
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bobc

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PostPosted: Mon 02 Feb 2015, 05:07    Post subject:  

I haven't tried it with puppy, but I have older nvidia 96.xx cards in my machines, and from experience with other distros, IIRC the proprietary nvidia programs won't install with anything higher than a Wheezy kernel, I believe its like 3.2.53 or so.

But I was wrong... CatDude figured it out...

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=796264#796264
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mikeb


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PostPosted: Mon 02 Feb 2015, 07:19    Post subject:  

some clever bunnies around here.... keeping a handle on the latest kernel quirks is an art form.

I bent the other way ages ago and managed to get fixes to make certain usb audio cards to work on 2.6.xx kernels.... all good fun.

I have a couple of mx4000 which are similar .... make my old gear play nicely...literally Smile

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bobc

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PostPosted: Mon 02 Feb 2015, 11:32    Post subject:  

Yes, those are pretty good cards for their day. They were good at video games even with a 400 mhz machine.

I will give his code a test run today, sometime on my old Dell Inspiron 8100 that is in dire need of it.

I want to learn how to take my Slacko kernel and get the source, add or remove a few module(s), recompile, and test it. Where can I learn how to do that? Any ideas?
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mikeb


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PostPosted: Mon 02 Feb 2015, 13:27    Post subject:  

Well i got the sources given for compiling and built that using fairly generic instructions..advantage is the config is set to how puppy wants it.
Obviously any changes will mean existing modules are incompatible.
In my case I wanted to add kvm to lucids kernel. All went pretty smoothly really.
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/CompilingKernel
might be a good starting point.

If you only want to build, add or modify drivers then there's no need to do the whole kernel..building out of tree is possible,

mike
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bobc

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PostPosted: Mon 02 Feb 2015, 15:05    Post subject:  

Thanks again for your ideas and the link. I have no idea why search didn't find that.

In my case, its just to add modules i need, and potentially remove ones I will never, ever need or use.

For example I need aic7xxx because all of my pre-2005 machines were Adaptec SCSI, but I don't need oddball filesystem types like BTRFS, XFS or JFS. The only filesystem types I use are FAT16, FAT32, NTFS, EXT2, EXT3, EXT4 and Linux Swap, if that is a type.

Perhaps I could find other things I don't ever need. For example, all my machines use nVidia, ATI or Intel onboard video.

Another example is that all of my machines support at least PAE and SSE.

Basically, I'm looking to add the things I need to boot any of my machines, and still looking to minimize the memory footprint and cpu usage. I'm trying to get it to where I am running happily with the same OS on all the machines in the house.

PS: So if I download and do what that page says with the same kernel my slacko 5.7.0 uses now and made no changes,it should generate the same kernel I have now?

Also, what does it mean "building out of tree"?

I'm learning a lot lately... Thanks again Smile
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mikeb


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PostPosted: Mon 02 Feb 2015, 15:43    Post subject:  

Building out of tree means build an individual kernel module rather along with a complete build as it normally would be. You can also build a module 'in tree' by requesting it individually but that does involve some kernel preparation...never tried that approach (yet).

But before going any further this sounds more like you simply need to remove what's unwanted, add what you do... and then use the puppy remaster script to make your custom build. Any kernel module changes will be included.

mike
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bobc

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PostPosted: Mon 02 Feb 2015, 17:31    Post subject:  

I found the tree, and think I understand the idea... So basically, I'd generate the current config, add or remove just what I need to,then rebuild?

I'm using fsarchiver to take my partition and squish it down to a file on a flashdrive, move it to another machine, and then unsquish it into a partition, then add it to the grub2 boot of that machine manually, since I don't know another way. I'm sort of remastering my installed system that way. Once copied into place, I change fstab and hosts and hostname files, and then it should be able to boot and run.

I agree it would be better to have an iso instead, and I guess that's the next step after I have everything working well.

Thanks again Smile
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mikeb


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PostPosted: Mon 02 Feb 2015, 17:44    Post subject:  

yes indeedy...

by the way the remaster script 'should' work with a full install ...I have done it in the past to make an update and/or as a backup...sort of convenient.

mike
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bobc

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PostPosted: Mon 02 Feb 2015, 18:30    Post subject:  

That's good to hear as well. I'll give it a try. An iso is more kosher in my book, anyway, but just another something I haven't done before.

Sounds like a plan, then. Thanks for the pointers and ideas.

Smile
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