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Tox -Skype alternative?
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greengeek


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PostPosted: Tue 19 Aug 2014, 05:44    Post subject:  Tox -Skype alternative?  

I've been looking at various alternatives to Skype and most of them have downsides such as requirement for paid subscriptions (which I'm not really against but will limit the overall popularity), java (which I consider weighty and a security risk), need for central servers (and therefore loss of individual control) etc etc.

However, one of the alternatives (albeit in the very early developmental stages) is "Tox".

I'm interested to know if others have tried it, or what the opinions are regarding the likelihood of it's success, especially on Puppy.

I am keen on voice services as a priority, but obviously would like some sort of video service too if possible.

The Tox website on reddit is here:
http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1yhp9a/tox_a_free_as_in_freedom_skype_replacement/

Could this be useful on puppy? In what ways would it be different to puppy sip-phone (which I never got around to using as I did not initially understand the requirement for a SIP server and support from an ISP) ?
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mikeb


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PostPosted: Tue 19 Aug 2014, 06:29    Post subject:  

looks interesting..

As you mentioned there are probably a zillion ways to do this.

One that comes to mind would be a flash client...its got all the tools.
Or what about VLC... it can serve video and sound and handle webcams and mics.

yahoo...or something else pidgin handles.?

without some for of central connection for addresses at least some form of ip handling is needed for peer to peer. iirc some gnutella clients included chat.

the discussion begins...

mike
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Smithy


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PostPosted: Sat 23 Aug 2014, 04:45    Post subject:  

That name could do with a change, such negative connotations? Toxic, Poison.
Is it ready yet?

I was looking at web rtc for ages now, not sure if that is going yet?

http://thehackernews.com/2014/06/mozilla-to-provide-webrtc-based-free.html

Then there was Justin's Ninjam Server, it opens up as a server on your comp, then
person or persons login. Designed for Jamming musicians, it has fairly high bandwidth requirements (OGG) and there is latency, but might be good to have a look at how it is done.

Linux for compile here:
http://www.cockos.com/ninjam/downloads/src/ninjam_server_0.06.tar.gz
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muggins

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PostPosted: Sat 23 Aug 2014, 11:31    Post subject:  

Has anyone tried http://web.linphone.org/

Also for calling landlines, several years back someone pm'ed me how they were doing that
with twinkle, however I can't recall the specifics, or the forum member.
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l0wt3ch

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PostPosted: Sat 23 Aug 2014, 12:38    Post subject:  

Smithy wrote:
I was looking at web rtc for ages now, not sure if that is going yet?

http://thehackernews.com/2014/06/mozilla-to-provide-webrtc-based-free.html


This is implemented in Firefox now. I've uploaded a package for your perusal.
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Smithy


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PostPosted: Sun 24 Aug 2014, 10:12    Post subject:  

Thanks for posting that, l0wt3ch, at last, a webrtc thing.

Uses Google Stun/ Turn Server, google analytics, cloudfront and Amazon services (icons maybe).
Will give it a try.
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chapchap70

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PostPosted: Fri 29 Aug 2014, 19:46    Post subject:  

muggins wrote:
Has anyone tried http://web.linphone.org/

Also for calling landlines, several years back someone pm'ed me how they were doing that
with twinkle, however I can't recall the specifics, or the forum member.



I have the plugin working with my slimboat browser. I haven't had too many opportunities to use it though. My son and I had a long distance (50 feet) video chat with linphone about a year ago. He was using the plugin on Windows 7 with Firefox. I was using version 3.61. He said it wasn't as good as Skype but it may have come a ways with the updates since then.

I'll try to stay logged into Linphone if anyone wants to try it. My handle is sip:chapchap70@iptel.org It seems that PSIP which is included in many Puppys is more reliable than Linphone at determining if a user is online and connecting with others. Unfortunately, PSIP does not have video.
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