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If you prefer that Fatdog CUPS use Ghostscript as its rasterizer:

1. Download ghostscript_fatdog-9.05-amd64.txz. This is a minimal build with just the key components.
2. Right-click install the package in Fatdog.
3. Restart CUPS with: /etc/init.d/70-cups restart
4. Test Ghostscript with the command: gs -h

Read here for more info about Ghostscript.

If you prefer that Fatdog CUPS use Ghostscript as its rasterizer:

Is this (functionally) different to the ghostscript in the repo?

p310don wrote:Is this (functionally) different to the ghostscript in the repo?

This is a minimal build with just the key components.

Are you asking if it does the same job of rasterizing? The only way to answer that is by empirical testing.

But if I was not satisfied with it, I never would have posted it.

Waiting for your own test results.

Are you asking if it does the same job of rasterizing? The only way to answer that is by empirical testing.

I'm happy to test, but not sure what I'm testing, nor how to.

I typed in your command in my slightly older version of fatdog which has repo ghostscript installed. It gives me lots of words letters and numbers that I don't have any idea what they mean. It does say it is ghostscript version 9.23 - slightly newer (incremental difference)

I did a virgin install of fatdog, installed your ghostscript & the samsung ULD printer driver and it works perfectly. Although no differently to repo gs.

Doing another virgin install of fatdog, with samsung ULD installed, but no gs, it still prints. This is new for this version of FD. I have only printed the test page, but the text at the bottom of the page is bolder, maybe slightly larger. The GS printing is finer, as in thinner font.

p310don wrote:I did a virgin install of fatdog, installed your ghostscript & the samsung ULD printer driver and it works perfectly. Although no differently to repo gs.

I am not going to second-guess Fatdog's decision to omit ghostscript from its ISO, but I suspect that it has to do with size considerations. My package is a fraction of the size. But if that's not an issue for you, get the full package.

Doing another virgin install of fatdog, with samsung ULD installed, but no gs, it still prints.

That's because it is using the alternate rasterizer from poppler. You will need more testing to decide if you are satisfied with the quality.

My package is a fraction of the size. But if that's not an issue for you, get the full package.

TBH, size doesn't matter to me personally, but I do understand the consideration.

If your package achieves the exact same result, at approx 1/3 the size, that's gotta be good.

So going back to my original question to you rcrsn51, is it functionally different to repo ghostscript? It seems the answer is no, but it is physically different (smaller).

Here is something to test. Do a clean install of the new Fatdog. Get full ghostscript from the repo. Print a test page.

Which does it look like? The ghostscript version or the poppler version?

Do a clean install of the new Fatdog. Get full ghostscript from the repo. Print a test page.

Which does it look like? The ghostscript version or the poppler version?

The repo version of ghostscript, and the no ghostscript version look the same. Your ghostscript looks different.

p310don wrote:The repo version of ghostscript, and the no ghostscript version look the same. Your ghostscript looks different.

So even though you installed full ghostscript, which rasterizer appears to be in use?

rcrsn51 wrote:

p310don wrote:The repo version of ghostscript, and the no ghostscript version look the same. Your ghostscript looks different.

So even though you installed full ghostscript, which rasterizer appears to be in use?

In 810-beta and older 800s, the default rasteriser is ghostscript. Which is why every single driver requires ghostscript to be installed or they don't work.

On 810 final, we made a decision to switch the default rasteriser to poppler. So for many built-in drivers, ghostscript isn't needed anymore. Installing ghostscript from the repo does not change this fact. Seeing that you get identical output, you'd probably use the same default poppler rasteriser instead of ghostscript.

So if you want to use ghostscript as the rasteriser, in addition to installing to to the repo, you need to edit one file: /usr/share/cups/mime/cupsfilters-poppler.convs. This is explained here: http://distro.ibiblio.org/fatdog/web/faqs/printing.html, at the bottom of the page.

On the other hand, if you use rcrsn51's package, you don't need this since the same effect is achieved using different means (it comes with cupsfilters-ghostscript.convs which specifies higher priority for ghostscript than for poppler).

So for proper comparison, when using the repo ghostscript, you need to edit that file before printing a test page. Only then the comparison becomes apple-to-apple.

As I said to Don in a PM, CUPS test pages are irrelevant. The real test comes from printing everyday documents. Do you prefer the output from one rasterizer over the other? Is there any real difference?

Something else to consider: when the printer vendors like HP develop their Linux drivers, they expect that the input stream is coming from Ghostscript. That's because they will test their driver against a mainstream distro that uses Ghostscript.

So if you are concerned about compatibility, your best bet is to use Ghostscript yourself.

Compression 2.0 - Utility program
Compression of a folder .
See below

pupmd5sum-1.8-noarch.txz
Available:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1s4cmG ... GZaprPNyGK
Size : 7k

Instructions: Right click on file and choose pupmd5sum
md5sum is first to be calculated but other check sums are available.
Save the result as a text file.

see next post..

compression-2.2 available
rar compresion option to preserve links
needs rar installed from fatdog64 repository

https://drive.google.com/open?id=19vMm0 ... zPkxX7s8tu
Available:
compression-2.2-noarch.txz

Size: 19k

@ The Fatdog Team,

Thanks for Fatdog64-810 Final [17 Jan 2020]

Whilst testing it booted via "Super GRUB2 Disk" [SG2D] I made a couple of videos & created some packages.

The 2 videos can be found here:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/dbpcP44LkMDJgePp9

The packages are a streamed TV Panel & a version of my (TTS) multilingual startup welcome alert/ Internet alarm package.

They can be found here:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... 4P7193UYVL

The TV Panel requires the installation of mpv using Gslapt.

Two AU channels are included.

If outside the UK, just ignore the 4 BBC channels on the top row unless you have a UK based VPN that will give you at least 10Mbps.

You should be able to access SKY UK at the bottom left & the rest of the icons.

The AU ABC channel is old fashioned & takes several second to launch. SKY AU works fine here in the UK.

You will find the TV panel on the desktop menu together with it's boot toggle switch.

Download all items then right click each in turn and select "Install Package"

The translate-shell package is required by the multilingual startup_welcome_alert package.

Having installed those 2 packages you will need to reboot twice to activate the spoken greeting.

Some MPV Tips:

# To quit the TV press keyboard letter q
# To resume later at the same position when viewing a film or video, use instead keyboard letter Q (Upper case)
# To toggle between windowed & full-screen mode press keyboard letter f (Or a fast double left click of the rodent)
# Use numbers 0 (up) and 9 (down) across the top of the keyboard to adjust volume.
# To take a screenshot press keyboard letter s
# Toggle visibility of subtitles (when available) with keyboard letter v
# To pause or resume play use keyboard letter p or the space bar.

Plus in the version of mpv in Fatdog [shift + i] will toggle on screen stream stats.

An easy practical implementation for Fatdog-810 Final [17 Jan 2020]

@ The Fatdog Team,

I posted here http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 82#1050582

about a DLNA Pet & Repository image for Bionicpup64 8.0. I see no reason why Fatdog should be

left out in the cold so am attaching a modified package of that pet suitable for Fatdog.

The same repository image referenced in that post must be used with this package together with the

instructions for download, placement and writing the extracted image to a USB2 stick.

The compressed repository image [70MB] & it's md5sum can be found here:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... sp=sharing

N/B Use Gslapt to install minidlna as in the shot below and in Fatdog64 Service Manager do NOT

tick the minidlna service item.

Enjoy

Please see previous post

Six additional test videos together with their associated icons
for the repository stick are available from the following share:

https://my.pcloud.com/publink/show?code ... PPOS6oYU6X

EDIT 02/03/20:
Now 11 additional test videos in share.

Zoom client for Linux repackaged as an SFS for Fatdog64 >>here.

The pointerpointer tool for Zoom.