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MU


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PostPosted: Sat 22 Jul 2006, 05:40    Post subject:  

yes, as I said, the version I compiled myself works fine.
But we will have to test several more programs to find out, if the advantage of some new programs is worth the effort to recompile some older apps.

Thanks for the info, especially the debugging will be quite helpfull Cool
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BarryK
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Joined: 09 May 2005
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PostPosted: Sat 22 Jul 2006, 07:55    Post subject:  

Mark,
Yes, it would probably good to go for a gtk upgrade for v2.03.
but, I'm very impressed with T2. It is a superb tool for compiling everything from source. However there are some issues with using it. The current setup of CPP build environment seems to have something wrong (which is probably why we are getting that configure bug) which causes one of the T2 steps to fail.
A powerful machine is needed, probably at least 512M RAM, otherwise it is too slow.

I put T2 on the shelf for awhile as I'm working on Puppy 2.02beta, but will get back onto it. I was thinking of using Vector as the host build environment.
I'm not so sure about going up to gtk 2.10 just yet though, the last stable 2.8.x may be more prudent.
The source repository for T2 v2.2.0 uses glibc/gcc4 and gtk2.10, whereas the v2.1.1 repository uses the same series glibc/gcc as we currently have in Puppy (I think it has glibc 2.3.5 whereas we currently have 2.3.4) -- I contacted Rene Rebe, the T2 lead developer and he says we can use the older glibc/gcc with T2 v2.2.0. -- I mention that as there are many issues with the new glibc/gcc4 and some apps may no longer compile.

If you want to experiment with t2, feel free. I joined the T2 mail list and my email and Rene's response can be found online in the maillist archive, via
www.t2-project.org.

One very good thing about the T2 project is they have worked out all the patches and stuff to get it working properly.
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MU


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PostPosted: Sat 22 Jul 2006, 10:28    Post subject:  

yes, 2.8.x certainly would be a good choice, too.
Debian stable uses it, and grafpup. So you have a huge binary repository.
What I did tonight: compiled thunar.
Nice tool, easier to navigate than Rox, though I still prefer XFE.
It crashes, when I use the treeview. The thumbnailing does not work.
Tried a selfcompiled binary (svn) and the one from Zenwalk-Linux(beta, some days old), in both cases same result.

This encourages me to compile Gnome, as Thunar can use Gnome-stuff (though it would be better to solve the bugs without gnome).

I could compile the base-libraries, and nautilus, but did not install the latter yet. Will backup the libs first for a dotpup.

I certainly will not compile the whole gnome from scratch, who needs it, should try garnome or grab the files from the Zenwalk-server. It uses slackware-packages, that can be easily installed in Puppy.

The errors I mentioned indicate, that Gtk 2.8 might be the better choice, IF they were caused by 2.10.
But maybe I just use wrong settings on my system, or miss some configuration-stuff.

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T2 sounds interesting, I might try that after finishing my experiments in some days.
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deadeye

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PostPosted: Sat 22 Jul 2006, 13:11    Post subject:  

MU wrote:
yes, 2.8.x certainly would be a good choice, too.
Debian stable uses it

Not really, Debian Stable(Sarge) uses GTK 2.6.4.
The next Stable(Etch) uses 2.8 at the moment, but I assume(read hope) that they will switch to 2.10 as soon as the next Gnome release is available. AFAIK the Gnome release is the only reason why GTK 2.10 is not yet in Debian Unstable.

MU wrote:
It crashes, when I use the treeview. The thumbnailing does not work.
Tried a selfcompiled binary (svn) and the one from Zenwalk-Linux(beta, some days old), in both cases same result.

Did you looked at http://bugs.xfce.org for open bug reports? If there are none, you should open one. So, Benny(the developer) can fix them.
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MU


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PostPosted: Sun 23 Jul 2006, 20:53    Post subject:  

I submitted it to the thunar-mailinglist.

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Uff, after 3 days finally compiled in Puppy:



Only gnome-panel, nautilus, gconf-editor
Using Icewm as Windowmanager.
The XDG-menu shows not all entries, the Icewm-menu is better.

Impressions:
This is quite fast, a real big difference to Gnome 2.6.
However, without localization over 60 MB.

I think Icewm + Thunar would be the better choice.
Maybe I can offer a dotpup tomorrow.

Then I will try to build it again using Gtk 2.8.
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MU


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PostPosted: Mon 24 Jul 2006, 02:21    Post subject:  

I updated Gtk-2.10.0.pup , it was missing /usr/lib/pango/1.5.0/

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klhrevolutionist


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PostPosted: Tue 08 Aug 2006, 15:38    Post subject: puppy  

Well I updated gtk sometime using the first dotpup. And I am actually wanting to update again, because you know have an updated glib.

Is this ready for pups to install ? yes/no ?

Scary glibc ... Shocked

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MU


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PostPosted: Tue 08 Aug 2006, 17:16    Post subject:  

I currently use the new glib, and it works well, had no problems yet.
Was just too lazy to move the files from "testing" to the other folders, and want to wait for some feedback about potential problems.

But so far for me, it is ok.
If you have problems with it, you simply can install the older one (Glib 2.Cool again.
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MU


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PostPosted: Wed 09 Aug 2006, 11:26    Post subject:  

sorry, wrong thread.
Do NOT use Gtk 2.10 from this thread, use 2.8 Exclamation
http://www.murga.org/~puppy/viewtopic.php?t=9599

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Newcrest

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PostPosted: Wed 12 Dec 2007, 01:15    Post subject:  

Was their ever a glib-2.12.0 made. The web link referred to in the original post does not go anywhere valid.
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muggins

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PostPosted: Wed 12 Dec 2007, 01:41    Post subject:  

Hi Newcrest,

I've noticed your query in the user's section as well. What is it you're trying to port? You do know that installing an incompatible glib can mess things up?
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Newcrest

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PostPosted: Wed 12 Dec 2007, 01:56    Post subject:  

Hi Muggins,
Yes I am still at being difficult. I tried having a go at Ekiga and after putting in a few small libraries it actually tried to start but fell over because it required at least Glib-2.12.0. Waldo has posted that he has it working in Puppy 3.01 retro. I just wanted to try it out to see if I liked it.

I tried some older versions of Ekiga only requiring Glib 10.2 but they did not even get close to running.
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PostPosted: Wed 12 Dec 2007, 02:23    Post subject:  

Doesn't ekiga require various gnome libraries as well?
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Newcrest

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PostPosted: Wed 12 Dec 2007, 04:53    Post subject:  

Actually the only gnomes I have an experience with are the ones from the garden. Smile

It appears the current version of Ekiga is not as dependent on Gnome libraries as the older ones. It is supposed to work on KDE as well.

All I know is that after adding only a few small libraries the current version will start to run and only bomb when it complains about the older Glib version in Puppy 2.15.
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PostPosted: Wed 12 Dec 2007, 10:09    Post subject:  

I found http://grafpup.org/packages/2.0/glib-2.12.4.tar.gz
and tried Ekiga with it and had a successful startup. So it looks like it is now possible to run Ekiga in Puppy.

However, I am not sure if it is ok to use the grafpup library in the normal Puppy.
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