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nubc


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PostPosted: Wed 22 Jul 2015, 21:40    Post subject:  

I don't have a Home folder, so I downloaded FF 39.0 to a new folder named 'FF' in the opt directory, as suggested. I extracted the tarball to this folder, which generated a folder named 'Firefox'. I opened the 'Firefox' folder to find an executable named Firefox, clicked it, and got Firefox ESR 24.6.0, the old version that comes standard on Slacko 5.9.3.

Question: Why is the team struggling to get this version out, when it has a browser that is already recognized as too old? In the past, I spent 2 weeks trying to manually install a newer Seamonkey on an older Puppy version. Then when I presented the documentation, one of the old saws pointed out an easier, presumably better, way. So here we are, with a beta of the newest Slacko, and the first task is manually installing a newer version of Firefox. Shouldn't the browser have a higher priority than this, in a brand new version of Slacko, moving from 5.x to 6.x?
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PostPosted: Wed 22 Jul 2015, 22:16    Post subject:  

Wanna see 39? Rename the hidden Firefox folder in your /root directory, then refire the new binary.
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PostPosted: Wed 22 Jul 2015, 22:25    Post subject:  

Nope, another Firefox folder was generated in the hidden .mozilla directory. Matter of fact, I also renamed the .mozilla folder, and another .mozilla directory was generated in root. Still opens FF ESR 24.6.0. Haven't seen FF 39.0 yet.
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PostPosted: Wed 22 Jul 2015, 22:38    Post subject:  

Then there's something I don't know about.
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PostPosted: Wed 22 Jul 2015, 22:49    Post subject:  

Semme wrote:
How are you launching the one in /opt?

Single left click on gear symbol named firefox. I also tried to open it from command line, same result.
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PostPosted: Wed 22 Jul 2015, 22:58    Post subject:  

Correct. This is where it creates its *settings* folder.. In the current users home (echo $HOME) directory.
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Another Firefox folder was generated in the hidden .mozilla directory. Matter of fact, I also renamed the .mozilla folder, and another .mozilla directory was generated in root.

With the default FF installed to /usr/lib, the command line calls the symlinked binary from /usr/bin.

Why the new guy doesn't launch when you've renamed the settings folder in /root?

I not only don't understand, but I can't recreate what's happening.

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PostPosted: Thu 23 Jul 2015, 08:12    Post subject: LiveCD -- updating firefox & flash without a SaveFile  

Hi nubc,

Your running a LiveCD. No Home Partition = No SaveFile/Folder. When you bootup your READ-ONLY files are read into RAM. On shutdown/reboot whatever is in RAM is cleared. You can change what's in RAM, but without a SaveFile, those changes aren't permanent unless you create a SaveFile and Save to it, or Remaster. Consequently, your firefox and flash will remain the same as are on your CD.

Until then, all you can do is install pets (which will be installed into RAM) and restart X to test them.

If you want to continue to run as a LiveCD without a SaveFile, suggest you

Create SaveFile so you can test everything and recover from mistakes, problems, etc. then

(a) browse to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins and delete libflashplayer.so

(b) install the latest flash from here, http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=855211#855211

(c1) Backup any bookmarks
(c2) Menu>Setup>Remove Builtins > Scroll down & select firefox.
(c3) Browse to /root, show "hidden files". Delete .mozilla folder. Note the 'dot'.

(d) download shinobar's portable-firefox, http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=91945, and unpack it in /opt, registering it from there.
[Portable-firefox will download the latest version. Then It will set itself up, but Menu>Internet>firefox may not have an icon. Copy an appropriate icon to /usr/share/pixmaps and edit /usr/share/applications/firefox-portable so that its icon argument points there].

/opt is not on Puppy's path. An executable there have to be symlinked to a location on the path, such as /usr/bin, usr/local/bin/ or /root/my-applications/bin. Portable-firefox can be run from anywhere because when you register it, it creates the necessary symlink, as well as writing a desktop file to /usr/share/application.

An alternative to using portable firefox is to find and install any recent firefox pet. Then, from its menu, click HELP, About Firefox and Check for Update. The most current version will be installed. I don't think you can do that with the firefox-ESR version 01micko built in.

Test everything. When working. remaster.

For consideration: since you're running via a LiveCD, I would assume that internet security is a high priority. Since your "upgrades" require you go online to test them while employing a SaveFile, I suggest that you install shinobar's latest PupSaveConfig, http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=457081&sid=dbaa091aaf5acf3f65a895beb46b48d9#457081 and then apply the instructions provided by jpeps. http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=662326#662326.

Eliminating the Automatic Save will prevent any mistakes or junk you pickup while on the internet from being Saved to your SaveFile. [You may discover that a LiveCD isn't essential. Smile]. Always install new pets after on a fresh reboot, before doing anything else, and Save immediately. Don't manually Save after you've browsed anywhere you don't entirely trust.

Other thoughts: Banksy3 is a remaster of Slacko 5.6, specifically designed for providing a safe internet environment. http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=813562&sid=0336f7dafc96e038c3f15a4be7f99663#813562

Puli 6.0,2 has the same objective but is based on Tarhpup 6.0.2, http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=816340#816340

Banksy3 includes a recent firefox. Puli, I think, includes Chromium, not firefox. Both have a mechanisms for adding any pet without having to create a SaveFile. Puli requires a computer with more resources than Banksy3.

mikesLr

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PostPosted: Thu 23 Jul 2015, 08:13    Post subject: slacko-6.0 beta 2  

On my frugal install of Slacko-6.0 beta 2 I updated the puppy package
manager,then installed the newest Firefox + openssl.

Firefox works fine.
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PostPosted: Thu 23 Jul 2015, 08:32    Post subject:  

The latest ESR is 38.1. I'm amazed how many regulars still don't now how to perform a manual, clean install.
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PostPosted: Thu 23 Jul 2015, 08:47    Post subject:  

Semme wrote:
The latest ESR is 38.1. I'm amazed how many regulars still don't now how to perform a manual, clean install.


31.8.0 is the one that Slackware 14.1 is using.
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PostPosted: Thu 23 Jul 2015, 13:35    Post subject: slacko-6.0 beta 2
Subject description: web browsers
 

The newest Firefox and Palemoon browsers can be run in
Slacko-6.0-beta2 by downloading the firefox-39.0.tar.bz2 +
palemoon-25.5.0.en-US.linux-i686.tar.bz2 and unpacking the archive.
Then drag the firefox.bin to the desktop,right click on it and set the
icon for it.
Same for Palemoon.

I like Qupzilla as well so I downloaded the latest snapshot source
code and compiled that (yesterday), it has other dependecies that need
to be installed before compiling.
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PostPosted: Thu 23 Jul 2015, 14:29    Post subject:  

I rebooted, creating a savefile. When I got back to Desktop, I clicked the FF 39.0 executable in /opt, and a new Firefox appeared. Problem is, the language is Maori, and the Welcome screen is in French, "De nous a vous". How did this happen? I can find my way through maybe 10 languages, but Maori is not one of them. BTW, "reo" is Maori for "language." Should I download another FF, or is this one salvageable?

I got a problem with the scroll bar. I wish it could be one way or the other. The scroll bar in Slacko 5.5 is white/light on a gray background, and the scroll bar turns yellow with a mouseover. Slacko 5.9.3 has a dark gray scroll bar against a lighter gray background, which background graduates to darker gray toward the bottom of the slot. The scroll bar also gradually gets darker towards the bottom end. The top and bottom ends of the scroll bar are straight horizontal lines, ambiguous, whereas convex curvatures would clearly define the moving bar. Depending on the size and location of the scroll bar, it's sometimes difficult to know where the movable scrollbar is, such that one must click and drag randomly to see what moves. Notice that the light/dark scheme of Slacko 5.9.3 is the reverse of Slacko 5.5. I found the scheme of Slacko 5.5 to be clear and satisfactory, but I can't say the same for the light/dark scheme in Slacko 5.9.3.

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PostPosted: Thu 23 Jul 2015, 15:15    Post subject:  

Surely you can choose the right one >> ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/
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PostPosted: Thu 23 Jul 2015, 15:35    Post subject:  

Now, I have US English FF installed to /opt, assigned a FF icon to the desktop link. Seems to be working well. However, I upgraded PPM and still do not see FF ESR 31.8. Is this package a DEV package? Do I need udev?

@mikeslr
Appreciate your timely advice on banking, as my bank has refused the browser on Slacko 5.5. I was in a bind to get something done, so I reluctantly used a Windows box to do the deed. Hopefully, I'll wipe that Windows box before it gets in the wrong hands.

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PostPosted: Thu 23 Jul 2015, 15:43    Post subject:  

nubc wrote:
Now, I have US English FF installed to /opt, assigned a FF icon to the desktop link. Seems to be working well. However, I upgraded PPM and still do not see FF ESR 31.8. Is this package a DEV package? Do I need udev?


After you update puppy package manager you need to exit it, then start up PPM again and search for firefox.
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